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Gin
30 Jun 17 09:28
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http://www.newsweek.com/isis-members-europe-cant-get-jobs-when-they-return-home-629593

The first thing an employer will ask about a resume is any gaps between jobs. But they probably wouldn't suspect that an applicant for a certain role who seems to have been unemployed for a few years was busy fighting for the Islamic State militant group (ISIS).

Jihadis returning to their home countries in Europe are now finding out the hard way, and many cannot get a job as they try to reintegrate into western society.

Swedish daily newspaper Expressen interviewed former jihadis about life after ISIS and they discussed the challenges of finding work. As many as 150 have returned to the Scandinavian country to try and rebuild their lives.


“I just want to forget everything,” Walad Yousef, a 27-year-old returning fighter, told the newspaper. “I apply for a lot of jobs, but I can’t get any because my pictures are out there.”

Yousef had posted images of himself in Syria on Facebook, posing at a training camp with a Kalashnikov, and encouraging friends to join him. He returned to Sweden and said he had only gone to Syria to help civilians in the eastern city of Raqqa, where ISIS has beheaded several western hostages.

Another returning member said that life under ISIS was "not what I thought" while others said they had only traveled to help civilians affected by the Syrian war.

Employers fear that returning fighters may commit attacks or help others to commit attacks and do not wish to be associated with them, said another returnee who has changed his name to Yousef.

"You in the media have scared them. I do not know why they are afraid," said a jihadi from the southern city of Malmo of the fears that employees and civilians had of returning foreign fighters.

Another refused to speak to Expressen and give his real identity as he said he has "enough problems" finding employment in the country.



Others said they had no idea why their names were on leaked ISIS records. “That’s very strange. Anyone can say they’re me,” said an unnamed returnee. “I mean, it’s war. Maybe someone recommended me. I don't know."

Many live at home with their relatives or their friends as they cannot afford accommodation after returning and many have changed their names.

One of the jihadis named in the Expressen investigation is Bherlin Dequilla Gildo, a 39-year-old from Malmo, a jihadi who posed with the corpse of a Syrian regime soldier. A man answered at his address but said no one was there with that name. But he is back in Sweden, the newspaper says. One of Gildo's associates who fought alongside him said "he can do anything. Even I am afraid of him."

Sweden is one the best countries for a foreign fighter to return if they want to reintegrate. It is trialling a rehabilitation programme that gives Swedish extremists housing, employment, education and financial support. ShockedAnna Sjöstrand, the municipal coordinator against violent extremism in the city of Lund, said in October 2016 that it is much cheaper to reintegrate someone than to abandon them.

It is unclear if the trial will be rolled out nationwide or how former jihadis are to be reintegrated into the job market when they face such an obvious stigma after being ISIS members.

The country suffered only its second radical Islamist attack in April when an Uzbek national plowed a truck into civilians on a busy shopping street in central Stockholm. The attack left five people dead. Authorities arrested the driver and said he had sympathies with ISIS. ISIS did not claim the attack, but it generally does not take responsibility for attackers who are captured alive.

Returning fighters are a problem across the West—security services in Europe and the U.S. are concerned that their nationals will return home to carry out attacks as ISIS's caliphate continues to crumble in Iraq and Syria.

More than half of Britain's 800 foreign fighters have returned home. For the U.S., only a few have returned home with a much lower travel rate to Syria and Iraq. Former FBI Director James Comey said in 2016 that just 250 Americans had attempted to go or have gone to Syria. Almost 7,000 have traveled to Iraq and Syria as a whole from the West.
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Report Crisp77 • June 30, 2017 10:16 AM BST
Must be the same for Ibiza holiday reps
Report lfc1971 • June 30, 2017 10:21 AM BST
It won`t stop them breeding.
Report workrider • June 30, 2017 10:43 AM BST
I thought this was a joke,them looking for WORK I mean.....Laugh
Report boxingthefox • June 30, 2017 10:44 AM BST
Laugh
Report Foinavon • June 30, 2017 10:54 AM BST
It is a problem.
I think European countries, ourselves included, should give returnees a resettlement grant to help them back on their feet. They'll need a house, car, soft furnishings and enough left to tide them over while they look for work. About a million each should do it. I think I might email the shadow Home Secretary with this suggestion.
Report lfc1971 • June 30, 2017 10:58 AM BST
What is the point in arming the military when this sort of nonsense goes on .
Report casemoney • June 30, 2017 11:11 AM BST
They will Find some old Munta to bang a Kid or 2 out with ,as Seen with the london bridge Morrocan and the Old paddy Boiler he was with ,The Munta and the Child get Housed The Returning  Member Moves in Job done  Grin
Report casemoney • June 30, 2017 11:14 AM BST
"You in the media have scared them. I do not know why they are afraid," said a jihadi from the southern city of Malmo of the fears that employees and civilians had of returning foreign fighters.

How are these Silly Cxnts let Back in to the Country ??? Its beyond Belief tbh ..
Report workrider • June 30, 2017 11:20 AM BST
It begs the question,if they had still been winning would they have returned home,or would they be still out KILLING the unbelievers .
Report detraveller • June 30, 2017 1:09 PM BST

Jun 30, 2017 -- 5:20AM, workrider wrote:


It begs the question,if they had still been winning would they have returned home,or would they be still out KILLING the unbelievers .


You realize they are fighting amongst themselves? And that if they had to kill unbelievers surely they'd find plenty in Europe?

Report lfc1971 • June 30, 2017 1:19 PM BST
ah no, they are not fighting amongst themselves , although they are very capable of doing that as well.
They are fighting and murdering and oppressing people with different beliefs and from differing sects and different religions and no religion to themselves .
That is the problem right there.
Report Platini • June 30, 2017 1:40 PM BST
Sweden is a massive holiday camp for them - they can get all the housing, benefits, hand outs, and free access to all the infidel women they want.
Report lfc1971 • June 30, 2017 1:40 PM BST
If they wish to do so, and do not follow our good advice we are powerless to stop their misery , their weakness, and death.
Report lfc1971 • June 30, 2017 1:42 PM BST
The important thing is not to let them into any European country, until they are prepared to do as they are told.
They don't have to of course, we will not be in the least offended .
Report detraveller • June 30, 2017 1:56 PM BST

Jun 30, 2017 -- 7:42AM, lfc1971 wrote:


The important thing is not to let them into any European country, until they are prepared to do as they are told.They don't have to of course, we will not be in the least offended .


And you were sleeping the last 3 years? Not to let them into any European coutry Grin How about I tell you we have invited them and you are paying for their stay?

Report lfc1971 • June 30, 2017 2:17 PM BST
Thanks detraveller, I can't remember inviting anyone in , it's ok I try not to pay tax also so perhaps it's someone else your thinking off , maybe yourself ?
Report lfc1971 • June 30, 2017 2:27 PM BST
Just as an aside , why anyone living in Britain or any European country should think it is s good idea to pay tax is beyond me.
Report lfc1971 • June 30, 2017 2:29 PM BST
Taxation is becoming a much greater force for evil than good .
Report lfc1971 • June 30, 2017 2:30 PM BST
It is your tax money that is allowing these murderers to return to Europe.
Report lfc1971 • June 30, 2017 2:35 PM BST
It is your duty to pay as little tax as possible, starve the European governments of money.
Keep it in your own pocket , get busy making yourself invisible .
Report lfc1971 • June 30, 2017 2:40 PM BST
Do you know I have so much money I don't know what to do with all the money.
Report detraveller • June 30, 2017 3:15 PM BST
of course i know.
Report Sica Dan • June 30, 2017 3:17 PM BST
Most of these chaps will  probably claim post traumatic stress and thus qualify for disability.
Report casemoney • June 30, 2017 8:59 PM BST
Dan Spot on , and ride a Few Pigs for the Housing Extras .
Report gilbzy • June 30, 2017 9:23 PM BST
How are these Silly Cxnts let Back in to the Country ??? Its beyond Belief tbh


Because you don't derail the plan of luring 80-90 % of the middle east men of fighting age over to Europe so the west can take over by letting them go back over there and kill our soldiers..
Report moisok • June 30, 2017 9:49 PM BST
Job creation - what ever could go wrong?
Report lfc1971 • June 30, 2017 11:05 PM BST
If only we had the likes of gilbzy in WW2, what would Eizenhower or Alexander have made of such a cunning plan?
I don't know .
Report kincsem • July 1, 2017 3:04 AM BST
casemoney
They will Find some old Munta to bang a Kid or 2 out with ,as Seen with the london bridge Morrocan and the Old paddy Boiler he was with ,The Munta and the Child get Housed The Returning  Member Moves in Job done


Redouane was refused asylum in 2009 but married London-born Charisse O’Leary in Dublin
Report BIG CAT LEON LETT • July 1, 2017 10:44 AM BST
On the organ register there should be a section saying donate all my organs as long it does not go to a Retard State fighter or any of their family.

Only in the UK could people argue that these people have the same right to organ transplants as charity workers and food bank volunteers.
Report lfc1971 • July 1, 2017 11:10 AM BST
They are British .
Report lfc1971 • July 1, 2017 11:19 AM BST
I am glad I no longer consider myself British .
I would wish it on no one to be British.
Report lfc1971 • July 1, 2017 11:23 AM BST
I am to put it frankly Chinese.
Report lfc1971 • July 1, 2017 11:27 AM BST
Is it possible to be more helpless than someone British, seeing their country changed and become more foreign to him than Africa with all its deserts ? not very easily.
Report lfc1971 • July 1, 2017 11:29 AM BST
I feel how little it concerns me, everything that is called England .
Report lfc1971 • July 1, 2017 11:38 AM BST
If possible, legally of course, pay no tax or as little as possible.
Report lfc1971 • July 1, 2017 11:40 AM BST
That is the very best thing that anyone can do.
Report lfc1971 • July 1, 2017 11:46 AM BST
It is immoral and illegal for any government to claim tax and at the same time have open borders
who could deny that ?
Report lfc1971 • July 1, 2017 11:48 AM BST
It's theft , nothing less.
Report lfc1971 • July 1, 2017 11:55 AM BST
So I only do just what I find I cannot avoid doing, that is what I do with tax and work, I only pretend to work industrially.
can the thought of losing my job inspire fear in me ?
It seems it cannot .
Report lfc1971 • July 1, 2017 12:04 PM BST
3 men detained in Essex on suspicion of terrorist charges, on the news just now ,
Perhaps they are British.
Report BIG CAT LEON LETT • July 1, 2017 12:25 PM BST
If you have committed untold atrocities is being a Retard State fighter/supporter enough to absolve you of all responsibility of human rights violations.

They're still pursuing Nazis and we're talking about rehab and reintegration for the Retards.
Report BIG CAT LEON LETT • July 1, 2017 12:40 PM BST
We pursued the Nazi war criminals to the ends of the earth.In hindsight we should have forgiven them and paid them to live amongst us.
Report moisok • July 1, 2017 1:05 PM BST
You load of knuckle draggers haven't a clue.  Give 'em a nice education, go to uni, become doctors. That will divert them from terrorist activities.  It's only when they are poor and unemployed that they turn to terror activities.  This is the fault of whities.


Oh!!
GLASGOW ?? Airport?  ERrrrrrrr!!!  hang on a minute
must go
will try and sort out another reply ..............................  ummmmmm!!
Report casemoney • July 1, 2017 1:42 PM BST
My Error Kins  a Londinistan Munta  with the name O'leary  Laugh never the Less a Boiler and a Munta of the Highest Order Who Knew quite well what he was up to with her Pics outside the Cafe ISIS ..
Report moisok • July 1, 2017 2:56 PM BST
The problem with you, Case, is you have no empathy what so ever by this 'put upon' victimised group (their own words in interviews).  Case, if only you could see it is cultural.  It is part of their way.  I do wish you would catch up.
Report treetop • July 1, 2017 10:06 PM BST
They have forfeited their rights to be trusted and employed by anyone,I would take their passports off them but if they have to return they should be required to be self empoyed and work for themselves to establish credibility.
Report zorrostrikes • July 1, 2017 10:39 PM BST
new factory opening - sweeny todd's curry pies.
taking in all isis workers.
Report casemoney • July 1, 2017 11:30 PM BST
Laugh mois
Report BIG CAT LEON LETT • July 10, 2017 12:43 AM BST
Any serious joy being observed amongst your Muslim neighbours and friends with the news that Retard State has(according to C4 news)been defeated?When there is a United Ireland there will be much jubilation throughout areas of Britain.So why no obvious joy that vast areas of Muslim lands have been liberated.The Iraqis I saw on C4 news certainly seemed happy judged by their singing and dancing, much in the style of happy people everywhere.
Report casemoney • July 10, 2017 11:16 AM BST
Hopefully all the vermin  in Iraq was exterminated at least that is one area it wont be coming back from ..
Report BIG CAT LEON LETT • July 10, 2017 8:35 PM BST
Is the term Kafir or Kuffar a racist term?
Report BIG CAT LEON LETT • July 10, 2017 8:37 PM BST
If so Retard State fighters may be allowing themselves to be labelled as racists which would not help their employment prospects on their return.
Report BIG CAT LEON LETT • July 10, 2017 8:38 PM BST
The K word.
Report moisok • July 10, 2017 8:41 PM BST
ah but you see it is the M word people - they are allowed - of course it is not a religion - it is something completely different - but the mugs will allow this and much more -
Report BIG CAT LEON LETT • July 10, 2017 8:45 PM BST
I have no desire to use the N word.Is it's use ever acceptable?
Report BIG CAT LEON LETT • July 10, 2017 8:49 PM BST
The K word is pejorative.Can anybody say otherwise?

But is it therefore racist?

The country I hear is already full of racists.Coming down with them.
Report BIG CAT LEON LETT • July 10, 2017 9:03 PM BST
Nobody can say otherwise.
Report moisok • July 10, 2017 9:12 PM BST
you ain't allowed to oppose or even question
Report saddo • July 10, 2017 10:16 PM BST
You have to pretend you can't see what's coming moisok, just keep bending lad. These poor youngsters just want to live back among the enemy, and we'll have to accept them doing so.
Report BIG CAT LEON LETT • July 10, 2017 10:16 PM BST
Will someone please condemn those who are guilty of offensive and racist language.Total silence.

Anne Marie Morris MP was exposed today for using the N word and received negative publicity.

Am I the Kafir in the wood pile?
Report BIG CAT LEON LETT • July 10, 2017 10:19 PM BST
Normally there is a contrarian view from somebody.Will you please condemn those who refer to me as a Kafir.
Report moisok • July 10, 2017 10:20 PM BST
The kaffur are of no import in this or any other matter.
Report moisok • July 10, 2017 10:24 PM BST
the faithful have a very good book which guides them in how to treat the unbelievers

I am always happy to help and instruct.  As does their good book.

I recommend its reading.  Very enlightening.
Report BIG CAT LEON LETT • July 10, 2017 10:28 PM BST
Not good huh?

Please condemn it somebody.
Report akabula • July 10, 2017 10:30 PM BST
Anyone remember the tv play by the same name.
I vaguely recall it and think it was in the early 60s.
Oh how times have changed.
Report BIG CAT LEON LETT • July 10, 2017 10:33 PM BST
Anybody remember that there used to be contrarians on here?
Report moisok • July 10, 2017 10:36 PM BST
My friends use similar expressions about all sorts like cigarettes etc etc etc yawn
one or two even use the N word but then they sort of qualify as ..........cos they is errrrr... black!!??

But she is a silly billy - don't see why it should destroy a career.

Just thinking about that dinner lady who was suspended by here Head of school.

You know, it is the usual old argument about how a group like mine can call ourself 'princesses and cigarettes ' but anyone else outside our circle doing it is homophobic/transphobic etc.

just saying
Report moisok • July 10, 2017 10:37 PM BST
by HER head of school
Report BIG CAT LEON LETT • July 10, 2017 11:05 PM BST
The contrarians must be writing job references for the returned Retard State fighters tonight.

Dear Mr Employer, please employ this individual who has committed many atrocities and human rights abuses against those who he considers to be Kafir.It is clear that nobody cares much for the Kafir anyway.Nobody will defend them.(that seems clear)Besides Mr Employer if you don't give him the job he will do you for racial discrimination and he will be represented by Kafir contrarians.
Report BIG CAT LEON LETT • July 10, 2017 11:06 PM BST
I am asking a very simple question.
Report BIG CAT LEON LETT • July 10, 2017 11:08 PM BST
Is the use of the pejorative term Kafir racist?
Report moisok • July 10, 2017 11:20 PM BST
I would refer you to ummah.com  - you will be tied up in knots after going through that lot

it depends who is saying it

if it is a muslim saying then it is ok as it hides under the label of religion

they are well protected.

If you were a south african saying it then...............

Or even you saying it.............  and so on

What I am saying is anything islamic is open to a thousand interpretations

or that is what you will be told



it is how the main emphasis of the good book and the thurst of islam is protected from the kaffur

it is allah's will 

hope this helps
Report akabula • July 10, 2017 11:29 PM BST
Racist terms are pejorative.
But you ask are pejorative terms racist then yes if the term is directed at race.
Report saddo • July 10, 2017 11:36 PM BST
The word is widely misappropriated, BIG CAT. It means non believer, so they shouldn't use it against practicing Christians, for example, but they do. I really am a kuffar and dgaf what they think about that.
Report moisok • July 10, 2017 11:37 PM BST
kaffur is a coverall word for unbelievers but the devil is in the detail

go read the book and you will see how a good muslim should regard and treat kuffur

it is quite enlightening

much more entertaining is the statements about women
Report moisok • July 10, 2017 11:38 PM BST
quite a piece of work
Report digdeep • July 10, 2017 11:39 PM BST
Infidels
Report akabula • July 10, 2017 11:41 PM BST
Not all bad about the women in the book moisok.
I mean the stick you beat them with can't be too thick.
That's real compassion for you.
Report saddo • July 10, 2017 11:44 PM BST
Indeed, you can't raise seventeen kids and do the ironing with broken limbs.
Report moisok • July 10, 2017 11:46 PM BST
it is allah's will

it does show me how wrong I can be

boom boom!!!  oooops!!!!
Report Ibrahima Sonko • July 14, 2017 7:06 PM BST
One rule for one and another rule for others.

LONDON (AP) — A British man who joined a pro-Russian militia in Ukraine has been jailed for terrorism offenses, in the first U.K. prosecution over the conflict.
A judge on Friday sentenced Benjamin Stimson to five years and four months in prison.

Stimson went to Ukraine in 2015, later posting a picture of himself with an assault rifle on Facebook.

He was arrested on his return and admitted assisting others in committing acts of terrorism.

Prosecution lawyer Barnaby Jamieson said Stimson admitted “serving as an armed militiaman in an irregular force opposing the Ukrainian army,” although Judge David Stockdale said Stimson had not actually done any fighting.

Northwest England counterterrorism police chief Russ Jackson said he hoped the conviction “will send a message to all those who are even considering joining conflicts.”
Report casemoney • July 14, 2017 10:00 PM BST
The Iraqis are give them a Helping hand to Fly home
Report detraveller • July 14, 2017 11:07 PM BST
@Sonko This reminds me of the incident where we accused Russia of using EU waters for transporting their jet fuel. Ironically at the same time, we were 'rescuing' refugees around the italian coast and had daily traffic, which of course the radars only picked when someone's boat had trouble. Of course there are different rules for different people. How much money and control do we obtain through the wars in the middle east? And how much through wars around russia? The difference should tell you why we treat them differently.
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