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scandanavian_haven
23 Jun 17 20:55
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are they legally allowed to do this ? though it's the right thing to do I imagine a few wont gom, would they be forced ?

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By:
cooperman
When: 23 Jun 17 20:59
Hopefully they wont be booked into a Premier Inn.
By:
olddesperado
When: 23 Jun 17 21:16
Around 4000 people looking for tempory housing, wow.

These stories going to get worse imo.

Probably the correct decision but its some upheaval and the 2 to 4 weeks timescale seems very optimistic.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 23 Jun 17 21:19
Good that they are doing something about the danger imo.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 23 Jun 17 21:25
Sky said there wont be any enforcement and on seconds thoughts if work is beginning straight away tbh I would actually stay given the risk is so minimal. maybe a bit of an overraction to ask them to leave especially at such short notice, the first a  women in one of the blocks heard about it was when she was watching on the news at 8pm, interviewed on the same news an hour later
By:
olddesperado
When: 23 Jun 17 21:31
I thought they had to go tbh.

In that case i think i would stay as well,

Probably been living blissfully unaware a few years anyway.

In fairness its good they gave them the option.
By:
saddo
When: 23 Jun 17 21:32
There'll be lots of overreactions, given the furore. Mind, it was an overreaction to Green demands that made em flammable in the first place.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 23 Jun 17 21:34
And the left were blaming councils or government that cladded these buildings now react differently when as solution is dealt.
By:
olddesperado
When: 23 Jun 17 21:36
Seems now they have to go Sad
By:
Injera
When: 23 Jun 17 21:39
What causes a freezer to explode? How rare is it?
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 23 Jun 17 21:40
ibra do you really have to drag politics into absolutely everythingCrazy
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 23 Jun 17 21:43
It's all about safety, in my job their are no 2nd guesses.
By:
saddo
When: 23 Jun 17 21:44
I heard there are 5 fridge fires a week across the country, Injera. They say there is no inflammable insulation. That space shuttle must be blessed.
By:
trilby22
When: 23 Jun 17 21:45
Good to see it happening so fast ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40389148

Re the freezer - maybe wedged tight up against a wall or some clothing had fallen down the back?
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 23 Jun 17 22:01
There have been so many recalls on exploding white goods, but in line with globalisation they seem to get away with it.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 23 Jun 17 23:27
they were all fine for forty years? one freak occurrence bin them all.

move em all to Cardiff?
By:
cooperman
When: 24 Jun 17 00:15
Poor geezer in a wheelchair with cerebral palsy told about evacuation by a neighbour. What is wrong with these people in charge, they're human beings ffs show some humanity.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 24 Jun 17 00:27
a bit abrupt, i had asbestos and they gave me months warning. before papping me out.
By:
bodil
When: 24 Jun 17 01:04
Complete over-reaction. I look forward to increasing cases of mass hysteria - as in lots of fainting schoolgirls. But this one is politically motivated (without looking I'd be fairly certain Camden is Labour-run) - intended to overload May (that wont be difficult). There will be more premature deaths due to this evacuation than fire deaths in the next decade or two.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 24 Jun 17 01:08
the only justification for this sort of heavy handedness is the blocks are targets for isis tits.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 24 Jun 17 01:12
the real reason for the evacuation was they found 500 keys o coke on the thirtheenth floor and have to sneak it out under the residents noses.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 24 Jun 17 01:21
The more I watch this the more it really does seems well over the top, the chances of any resident being killed crossing the road are far greater than the chances of the blocks going up in flames, I'm not sure if it's Camden Leader Geroginia Gould trying to look in charge and competent or the council going into complete panic mode over the though of being sued should on the off chance one of the 5 blocks becaming another Grenfell.

There are dozens and dozens of mattreses very close to each other on the floor of a sports centre with  no sign of at least a blanket or pillow, strangers all asked to sleep next to each other (let's hope there are no weirdo's), no thought given to those with medical needs or those that have mental health problems or the elderly.

And every single one of them found out on the news, what does that say....it says Camden Council were more interested in getting out the message "look what we're doing, we're a responsible local authority in control of our affairs", than they were letting their resident know they were going to become homeless in a respectable reasonable way, should have been much more orderly.
By:
onlooker
When: 24 Jun 17 02:04
Usually comfortable, cossetted, flexi-time, work when you want, COUNCIL EMPLOYEES - looking after THEMSELVES .... just in case.

Job protection, Career protection, Pension protection - at vast cost to the Council TAX, and National TAX payer - in order to cover THEIR backs ... just in case.
By:
Lady Faye Verrit
When: 24 Jun 17 08:08
A nice little job for a cladding contractor, or three, and suspicions as to why they were awarded the contract!!!!
By:
DStyle
When: 24 Jun 17 08:41
remember when they put the cladding up. A set of tower blocks on Adelaide Road sandwiched between Belsize Park and Primrose Hill, so again, cosmetic improvements to the appearance of low-cost housing in two high value areas, and I often wondered what renovations they were doing inside.

As for the evacuation, I suspect insurance concerns are steering decisions. If not, and it's merely for the sake of being seen to do something, the cost of employing full-time fire wardens in each of the three buildings would be cheaper.
By:
saddo
When: 24 Jun 17 08:54
Agree with scandy, political virtue signalling. Quite sickening what they will put people through to  create more drama out of this incident.
By:
Cider
When: 24 Jun 17 08:58
The fire service advised evacuating the buildings I believe, so they've got little option but to take immediate action. The authorities are now in a no win situation. Everyone wants action to be taken, unless the action involves disruption to their own lives. Some of the moaners are pretty irritating. I doubt some of them have paid a penny towards anything for a number of years, living 100% courtesy of the state.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 24 Jun 17 09:25
Cannot believe what i am reading on this fred, people are in buildings if fire broke out then they would be dead and the fire service already confirmed that they could not do anything for people above the 12th floor.

Certainly opened my eyes on a few posters on here.
By:
lfc1971
When: 24 Jun 17 09:33
the same people would be the first calling for blood if something goes wrong.
By:
anxious
When: 24 Jun 17 09:35
Yep correct decision taken
By:
lfc1971
When: 24 Jun 17 09:42
will there be a criminal investigation into all these tower blocks, and other buildings and the councils or firms responsible.
By:
anxious
When: 24 Jun 17 09:44
There should be , what about other buildings the list of poosibilties is frightening
By:
lfc1971
When: 24 Jun 17 09:47
look I doubt very much that a company is going to fit cladding that does not comply with regulations.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 24 Jun 17 09:52
It is looking like green targets were the main priority and somewhere along the line they forget about safety and fire regulations, i would like to know who the experts who were on the committee to approve the cladding upgrade, and what qualifications they had.
By:
lfc1971
When: 24 Jun 17 09:54
they are going to fit the wrong cladding knowing that it will have to be inspected, knowing that itshould fail inspection, knowing that if something goes wrong down the line they could be held responsible for deaths.
That is not something that makes sense.
By:
salmon spray
When: 24 Jun 17 10:01
I would chain myself to the radiator. I imagine there are insurance problems but as has been said I would take my chances if I had lived there for years. If it's such a crisis why don't they requisition some of the private mansions that are empty.
By:
saddo
When: 24 Jun 17 10:02
If you don't sell stuff as "green" these days, you don't sell stuff at all. It's all the buyers on any project care about, the green box must be ticked.
By:
lfc1971
When: 24 Jun 17 10:05
the only way it would be possible would be if it was a mafia or criminal gang involved in these projects, this sort of thing has happened in Italy and America and it needs people on the inside of government and councils to be bribed.
By:
lfc1971
When: 24 Jun 17 10:15
to fit the wrong cladding,its not an easy thing to do. How could it be done ?
By:
moisok
When: 24 Jun 17 10:47
SKY WHIPPING THIS ONE UP AS FAST AS THEY CAN GO - like a jockey urging the horse to the winning post

Would the residents thank them if THEY went up like a roman candle??

Put the people back and let them sit there for a few months instead.
What a load of whingers.

Ps  - there is a very very big problems over ANY fire regulations big time.

remember  Foxy going on about this the other day - he has been proven right
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