800 homes evacuated by Camden Council due to cladding issues

Hopefully they wont be booked into a Premier Inn.

Around 4000 people looking for tempory housing, wow.

These stories going to get worse imo.

Probably the correct decision but its some upheaval and the 2 to 4 weeks timescale seems very optimistic.

Good that they are doing something about the danger imo.

Sky said there wont be any enforcement and on seconds thoughts if work is beginning straight away tbh I would actually stay given the risk is so minimal. maybe a bit of an overraction to ask them to leave especially at such short notice, the first a  women in one of the blocks heard about it was when she was watching on the news at 8pm, interviewed on the same news an hour later

I thought they had to go tbh.

In that case i think i would stay as well,

Probably been living blissfully unaware a few years anyway.

In fairness its good they gave them the option.

There'll be lots of overreactions, given the furore. Mind, it was an overreaction to Green demands that made em flammable in the first place.

And the left were blaming councils or government that cladded these buildings now react differently when as solution is dealt.

Seems now they have to go

What causes a freezer to explode? How rare is it?

ibra do you really have to drag politics into absolutely everything

It's all about safety, in my job their are no 2nd guesses.

I heard there are 5 fridge fires a week across the country, Injera. They say there is no inflammable insulation. That space shuttle must be blessed.

Good to see it happening so fast ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40389148

Re the freezer - maybe wedged tight up against a wall or some clothing had fallen down the back?

There have been so many recalls on exploding white goods, but in line with globalisation they seem to get away with it.

they were all fine for forty years? one freak occurrence bin them all.

move em all to Cardiff?

Poor geezer in a wheelchair with cerebral palsy told about evacuation by a neighbour. What is wrong with these people in charge, they're human beings ffs show some humanity.

a bit abrupt, i had asbestos and they gave me months warning. before papping me out.

Complete over-reaction. I look forward to increasing cases of mass hysteria - as in lots of fainting schoolgirls. But this one is politically motivated (without looking I'd be fairly certain Camden is Labour-run) - intended to overload May (that wont be difficult). There will be more premature deaths due to this evacuation than fire deaths in the next decade or two.

the only justification for this sort of heavy handedness is the blocks are targets for isis tits.

the real reason for the evacuation was they found 500 keys o coke on the thirtheenth floor and have to sneak it out under the residents noses.

The more I watch this the more it really does seems well over the top, the chances of any resident being killed crossing the road are far greater than the chances of the blocks going up in flames, I'm not sure if it's Camden Leader Geroginia Gould trying to look in charge and competent or the council going into complete panic mode over the though of being sued should on the off chance one of the 5 blocks becaming another Grenfell.

There are dozens and dozens of mattreses very close to each other on the floor of a sports centre with  no sign of at least a blanket or pillow, strangers all asked to sleep next to each other (let's hope there are no weirdo's), no thought given to those with medical needs or those that have mental health problems or the elderly.

And every single one of them found out on the news, what does that say....it says Camden Council were more interested in getting out the message "look what we're doing, we're a responsible local authority in control of our affairs", than they were letting their resident know they were going to become homeless in a respectable reasonable way, should have been much more orderly.

Usually comfortable, cossetted, flexi-time, work when you want, COUNCIL EMPLOYEES - looking after THEMSELVES .... just in case.

Job protection, Career protection, Pension protection - at vast cost to the Council TAX, and National TAX payer - in order to cover THEIR backs ... just in case.

A nice little job for a cladding contractor, or three, and suspicions as to why they were awarded the contract!!!!

remember when they put the cladding up. A set of tower blocks on Adelaide Road sandwiched between Belsize Park and Primrose Hill, so again, cosmetic improvements to the appearance of low-cost housing in two high value areas, and I often wondered what renovations they were doing inside.

As for the evacuation, I suspect insurance concerns are steering decisions. If not, and it's merely for the sake of being seen to do something, the cost of employing full-time fire wardens in each of the three buildings would be cheaper.

Agree with scandy, political virtue signalling. Quite sickening what they will put people through to  create more drama out of this incident.

The fire service advised evacuating the buildings I believe, so they've got little option but to take immediate action. The authorities are now in a no win situation. Everyone wants action to be taken, unless the action involves disruption to their own lives. Some of the moaners are pretty irritating. I doubt some of them have paid a penny towards anything for a number of years, living 100% courtesy of the state.

Cannot believe what i am reading on this fred, people are in buildings if fire broke out then they would be dead and the fire service already confirmed that they could not do anything for people above the 12th floor.

Certainly opened my eyes on a few posters on here.

the same people would be the first calling for blood if something goes wrong.

Yep correct decision taken

will there be a criminal investigation into all these tower blocks, and other buildings and the councils or firms responsible.

There should be , what about other buildings the list of poosibilties is frightening

look I doubt very much that a company is going to fit cladding that does not comply with regulations.

It is looking like green targets were the main priority and somewhere along the line they forget about safety and fire regulations, i would like to know who the experts who were on the committee to approve the cladding upgrade, and what qualifications they had.

they are going to fit the wrong cladding knowing that it will have to be inspected, knowing that itshould fail inspection, knowing that if something goes wrong down the line they could be held responsible for deaths.
That is not something that makes sense.

I would chain myself to the radiator. I imagine there are insurance problems but as has been said I would take my chances if I had lived there for years. If it's such a crisis why don't they requisition some of the private mansions that are empty.

If you don't sell stuff as "green" these days, you don't sell stuff at all. It's all the buyers on any project care about, the green box must be ticked.

the only way it would be possible would be if it was a mafia or criminal gang involved in these projects, this sort of thing has happened in Italy and America and it needs people on the inside of government and councils to be bribed.

to fit the wrong cladding,its not an easy thing to do. How could it be done ?

SKY WHIPPING THIS ONE UP AS FAST AS THEY CAN GO - like a jockey urging the horse to the winning post

Would the residents thank them if THEY went up like a roman candle??

Put the people back and let them sit there for a few months instead.
What a load of whingers.

Ps  - there is a very very big problems over ANY fire regulations big time.

remember  Foxy going on about this the other day - he has been proven right

The eu project has a hand in all this saving the planet from burning.

If you don't own the property you can be told to leave because it is someone else's responsibility, if you own a property it is your responsibility and it is your decision.

even if you own a property there are circumstances when you can be told to leave.

Women had a knock on her door at 2am and told to get her kids and leave, when asked whwat if she doesn't she was told the police would be called and she would be forced out, what a shambles.

this is what happens if it is someone else's responsibility and not yours.

According to Sky some 83 people ( or possibly households ) stayed put last night. They intend to evict them today.
What as shambles. The blonde child who is leader of Camden Council is the daughter of the late Lord Gould one of the close associates of Blair and,particularly,Mandelson

Being pragmatic is not an option anymore. You have to be seen going over the top, to appease the noisy ones, and to protect your arse just in case.

has anyone asked the obvious question is a leisure centre certified  for fire, welfare.health and safety to house 1000.s of people at an hours notice for weeks on end

wait till the spotlight falls on BTL landlords in the private rental market the streets will be full

Highly doubtful, as someone said earlier, they would be safer at home.

if those in the leisure centre could make an ordley space for about 2,30 ive got a badminton court booked,

if those in the leisure centre could make an ordley space for about 2,30 ive got a badminton court booked,

if those in the leisure centre could make an ordley space for about 2,30 ive got a badminton court booked,

Perhaps it would have been better to evacuate those on the higher floors, all the lower floor tenants in Grenfell got out. This does seem a bit of an over-reaction and panic situation, obviously serious measures have to be taken now for safety. But to relocate people and give them a short notice of just a few hours, maybe could have been handled differently.

Also lot of people concerned about what to do with their pets when they have to suddenly get out. Battersea Dogs Home have offered to take in all animals from owners who escaped from Grenfell and temporarily look after them for free. Lot of pets are believed to have died in the blaze as people left them behind while they fled.

Always plenty of Chit Chat 'experts' to say it was wrong. It wasn't just the cladding, there were faults with the lagging on the gas pipes, fire doors amongst other things. You cannot play games with peoples lives. However inconvenient it may be for the residents they are alive and safe.

Lots of older houses will need rewiring all over the country, but until an electrician is working in the house and tells the owner this, or until something goes wrong, they will be blissfully unaware. Throwing the baby out with the bath water in this instance, mainly for appearance.

these buildings are supposed to get regular checks for fire,safety,build regulations etc,etc and up until a week ago the powers that be were quite happy to play fast and lose with peoples lives,just remember this is the sort of red tape the tories,big business want a bonfire of

Around 4000 people looking for tempory housing, wow.

Plenty of High end empty Properties Available ,they should be Re-Housed in these ,Im Sure the Neighbours will be delighted ..

thinking maybe these people will be told that flats are danger,we will re-house you out of London,if you don't like you can always be homeless, then knock said blocks down and build lovely sake posh blocks for the rich, nah surely not.

They will be Rehoused where they want to be Re housed and thats how it Should be ,These blocks Should never have been Built Daunting Places to say the Least feel sorry for Kids living in them ,Some new Low rise Developements should be Built plenty of Space in the Richmond park area for a Start ,I'm sure the Local Luvvies will welcome all with Open arms ..

ok till the cladding though

ALL FOREIGN ENOCH POWELL WAS RIGHT

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/kensington-resident-tells-shocked-radio-host-if-grenfell-families-move-in-ill-leave/ar-BBD5o3J?li=AA9SkIr&ocid=spartandhp

We're all in this together

Move ?? good Luck with getting ur 2 million back

Seems to me that the relationship between building contractors and building control is endemically corrupt.

Anybody would move if the Ethiopian moved into the same block madness not to.

council had no choice but to act . Condemned by the Fire  service  - i would rather someone woke me up and told me to leave for safety reasons  - then i can atleast choose to stay /leave .   GG said residents were not forced to move

they also probably didn't want to run the risk of angry residents   protesting about living in unsafe accom' after the fire checks .

They are being forced to move fwiw.  The decision is a no brainer for the council (first and foremost they are protecting themselves from possible prosecution)  Given the residents the option to stay, leaves the council facing more serious prosecution if someat happens to the building.

Donna said her service charge bill was £15,500 Pmsfl  HTF are the Grenfell people going to pay That Be uproar with people on benefits Cap

My local council are removing the cladding with residents insitu, working 24hrs a day

Thats sensible

with this camden one i think the cladding seems to be the least of their problems  - this is more about fire hazards elsewhere in the building .

will take a long time to put right

London house of pain?

Portsmouth, tm.

dune - fear is the mind killer.

this is fear politics.

thanks house,i think this is very much a London thing

Corruption or incompetence in building control rife in the Capital it appears.

It's an interesting conspiracy that the may want to knock these tower blocks down, they are dotted along a street in a fairly wealthy part of North London and maybe some influential local residents residing in million pound houses within eye shot see them as an eye sore and want them gone, probably lowers the value of their homes.

One of the residents on Sky News spent 12 hours sat in a plastic blue chair outside the Leisure centre, then was told she had a room in a  hotel in Camden, but was turned away because it was double booked, what a farce.

this was always on the cards - these flats were all put up in the sixties. using concrete blocks. was it bison block panels? they were corroding and falling off the tower blocks. tons of concrete falling from a great height? they were meant as a short term solution. To get people out of slums. They should have been all retired after 40-50 years.

It just goes to show how ungrateful immigrants can be.

they've stuck new facades on rotting buildings, so the posh people don't hurt their eyes looking at them.

last year all the flats were safe, this year they are death traps?
they sent a TEAM with clip boards into look critically at the towers.
So why isn't this done in a regular basis. Is it because they are
all unsafe - they don't want to turn the light on in case the cockroaches
are seen.If the lifts break down yo only have twenty floors to walk
down to get your pint of milk.

Apparently the order was given to save money by not installing 3000 fire doors in Camden alone. If true it's a disgrace.