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By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 19 Jun 17 19:41
Seriously, that the best you can do? I point out your boy is a horror and you think I'm defending muslim extremists? Come on man. You're letting yourself down here.



Said this before: Is it so outlandish an idea that a mad Saudi prince who wanted a holy war would offer lots of money to a white brit to be rabidly anti-muslim, to project hatred and division, to highlight every incident and portray all muslims, the whole of islam as ISIS in the hope of inciting other white brits to start attacking muzzies and so further quicken the pace to that holy war?
By:
11kv
When: 19 Jun 17 19:43
Arm yourself,get tinned food and water stored,its going to happen in our Country.
By:
akabula
When: 19 Jun 17 19:53
You haven't answered the question PP.
In what way was that vid inciting violence?
He constantly spoke of the politicians ignoring the problem.
That suggests that he is looking for legislation to attack the problem rather than violence.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 19 Jun 17 20:01
PorcupineorPineapple
19 Jun 17 19:41
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Seriously, that the best you can do? I point out your boy is a horror and you think I'm defending muslim extremists? Come on man. You're letting yourself down here.

...

What are you talking about?

He is pointing out how many people from that area have gone to fight for ISIS. He has lived through what the ideology is all about.

Are you happy that 500 people that have gone to Syria are walking our streets?

What has he said that is inciting violence? He is trying to stop it.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 19 Jun 17 20:02
He said, and I quote, that people living in those houses were "enemy combatants who want to kill you".


The enemy. And they want to kill you.


Had he carefully chosen 2 or 3 houses were he knew (but obvs the police didn't) that there were jihadists in there who were planning some kind of atrocity or was he just blithely pointing at a whole block of houses on a street? Let me check again. Yep, thought so.


So, again...imagine those same words - ememy combatants who want to kill you - were uttered by Choudry or some other nutjob preacher to stupid, easily fooled young muslim men instead of Robinson's audience. Do you not think in that circumstance that they would constitute racial hatred?

You don't have to be honest to me on a public forum. I wouldn't expect it. But take a moment. Actually imagine a muslim saying those words and think what your reaction would be. Just be honest to yourself. That's enough right now.
By:
akabula
When: 19 Jun 17 20:12
Apart from this 1diot last night can you give me any other examples of muslims being attacked in this fashion?
Can you point me to any Christian church that calls for the death of those of another religion?
Can you point me to a community where so many people have committed terrorists acts as that community?
I need this info before I can answer your question PP.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 19 Jun 17 20:14
PP,

Good luck trying to get him to go to jail for that. He is in non way suggesting any violence.

You are seriously brainwashed if you cannot understand the context of what he talking about.

He is talking about the fact that he thinks/knows a number of people from that area have gone to fight in Syria.

If these people have fought for ISIS would you like them living next to you and not to be told about it?

Are you 100% comfortable with all the stats from the C4 survey, over 20,000 people of interest, 3,500 people on a serious list and 500 returned fighter living back in the UK?
By:
Injera
When: 19 Jun 17 20:15
Robinson has warned of Islamic terrorism for 9 years at least. He was ignored.

Today Brendan Cox compared him to Choudray. A sickening insult that went unchallenged by the BBC.

Robinson has warned, (as have others) that local Brits will sadly get violent if Islam is not challenged. He was correct.

Today he has had death threats and other abuse. Will those death threats be investigated? Of course not because it's Tommy..

All he has ever done is state what Farage and others have said that there is a Fifth Column living among us.

If people want to take that as offensive and inciting hatred then I despair.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 19 Jun 17 20:17
The ultra left just cannot stand the idea of the working class speaking up.

Notice no one is accusing Douglas Murray of doing anything wrong. Is it because he has a posher voice than Robinson?
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 19 Jun 17 20:18
When you say in this fashion, do you mean driven at or attacked in general? I mean it's not long since that young refugee lad was attacked in Croydon and left with a broken back. Are we now delineating racial violence by types though?

Are we back to the "use specific passages of ancient text to prove something" in the hope I don't pull something out of the Old Testament that proves it's just as bloodthirsty as the Quran? Or are you calling ISIS a church? I think you'd be on your own on that score though.

Is it a competition? Are we allowed so many racial murders or incitements because we're playing catch up? Someone should tell the Met the rules have changed.


The lengths some will go to to defend this kind of behaviour is astounding frankly.
By:
akabula
When: 19 Jun 17 20:20
No we are separating hate crimes from terrorist activities.
Plenty of hate crimes on both sides.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 19 Jun 17 20:20
Now I'm anti-working class!Laugh


Give your head a wobble ffs.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 19 Jun 17 20:21
I'd agree with that. I'll let the courts decide if the Welsh guy is guilty of terrorist offences, but I think Robinson should be investigated for hate crimes frankly.
By:
akabula
When: 19 Jun 17 20:24
The NT is preached in our churches PP with the OT viewed purely as a historical record of the times.
By:
LAMBETH WALK
When: 19 Jun 17 20:26
i love Tommy Love
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 19 Jun 17 20:26
PP,

You are pro-working class? I thought you were pro-EU, pro-immigration and pro-big business getting low wage workers. Maybe I got you wrong and you voted for brexit.

Do you think Douglas Murray should be arrested for hate speech?
By:
Hank Hill
When: 19 Jun 17 20:28
pp - have a look at this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Ig1wH-yjE

It is Tommy Robinson seeking out an online troll. Only about 6 mins. I'm not taking the p. Would genuinely like to see what you think of his approach in the video.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 19 Jun 17 20:28
No idea IT, but I'll be happy to forward some of his videos or articles on to the authorities if you think they might qualify.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 19 Jun 17 20:29
pp,

here is a view of what DM said:

https://mend.org.uk/news/bbc-one-worse-katie-hopkins-giving-douglas-murrays-hate-speech-entire-platform/
By:
Hank Hill
When: 19 Jun 17 20:30
DM is a fantastic orator and he in no way in connected to hate speech imo. However, any criticism of Islam is hate speech now isn't it?
By:
akabula
When: 19 Jun 17 20:31
TR been assaulted on quite a few occasions by muslims who have never been charged despite being caught on camera.
Some of the assaults were witnessed by the police but still no charges. Why?
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 19 Jun 17 20:32
hank - is that the one where he turned up at a guy's house after midnight with two burly "friends"



Why does this guy have so many different names by the way?
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 19 Jun 17 20:33
pp,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfnq8Yeex0
By:
Hank Hill
When: 19 Jun 17 20:34
He meets him in broad daylight pp
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 19 Jun 17 20:35
Oh well, looks like he only felt brave enough to visit the other guy's house mob-handed after dark. Still, not all heroes wear capes eh.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 19 Jun 17 20:36
pp,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGfMftUgAvA
By:
Clouseau
When: 19 Jun 17 20:37
Couldn't be arsed entertaining the likes of P&P any more with reasoned argument.

It gives him legitimacy which he doesn't deserve.

Any attempt to equivocate Choudry and Robinson are just pathetic. Choudry says we are all infidels and will burn in hell's fire. Robinson says that the likes of Choudry think we will all burn in hell as infidels.

Somehow Tommy is a racist for quoting Choudry.

As i say I couldn't be arsed entertaining them anymore.

Good luck. Sad
By:
Hank Hill
When: 19 Jun 17 20:38
pp I consider myself independent, neither left or right - I wasn't saying he was a hero. I just thought it would be good to get your take on how he dealt with a guy who said he should be killed online. I thought he dealt with it very calmly and it does show how some people don't think their online actions can have real life consequences.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 19 Jun 17 20:39
Right, got to go. I'll let you all squabble over who loves Tommy the most. I think Aka's in the lead but it's not over yet by the looks of it. Be sure to tweet him to tell him how you were defending him from that nasty man.


Ciao.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 19 Jun 17 20:41
Clouseau

We cannot stand by and let ignorant people like PP that only read the headlines get away with what they are claiming without questioning it.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 19 Jun 17 20:42
pp,

As usual when the ultra left get found out they find a reason to dash off.

Only to reappear a couple of days latter on a different thread peddling their same unresearched views.
By:
Injera
When: 19 Jun 17 20:48
Thanks for the clip IT.

DM reasoned and full of common sense as usual.
By:
casemoney
When: 19 Jun 17 21:01
Osbourne Shocked Any Relation to Gideon ?
By:
akabula
When: 19 Jun 17 21:04
PorcupineorPineapple
Right, got to go.


Evening prayers?
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 19 Jun 17 21:21
Back now kids.

Now, where were we?

Oh yeah, who wants sloppy seconds with Tommy.
By:
LAMBETH WALK
When: 19 Jun 17 21:30
just tucked in your migrants have you
By:
casemoney
When: 19 Jun 17 21:38
Do any posters on Here have Ginger Hair and Beards ? this western type seems to be more than welcome into the Fold .
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 19 Jun 17 21:43
pp,

you have lost all logic so have to end it with jokes ans insults.

Do you agree with the arguments from the blonde lady in this clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuUflZJDMRs
By:
A_T
When: 19 Jun 17 21:49
Good luck trying to get him to go to jail for that. He is in non way suggesting any violence.

he'll be back in prison soon enough one way or another
By:
akabula
When: 19 Jun 17 21:55
You gotta love Tommy.
Gets right under the skin of the apologists. Laugh
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