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24 May 17
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for the 2nd day running tries to call this out for what it is and the muslim,islam apologist suzzane reid for the 2nd day running tries to stop him
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I think Ian shouldn't jump in like that making accusations without knowing the full facts. In times like this we need to be very careful what we say about this situation. Lashing out can only inflame things. Very irresponsible of you Ian.
Meanwhile there has been a muslim bomber flying in from Libya who has blown 70 people to pieces in Manchester. They are the facts. Why try to cover it up? Surely we are interested in the truth. |
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Amir Khan just said - is it muslim? unbelievable.
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I don't agree with you on this issue, Facts.
Morgan is not my cup of tea but he seems to me to be correct in stating that the Muslim community need to reject extremists among them. There may be a debate about the place of Islam in Christian countries versus the place of Christianity in Muslim countries. Why not? Morgan asked of the Imam who said he was "not surprised" that the suicide bomber killed a score of people, "what did you do about it?" And that is what many are wondering.. |
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'What did you do about it?'
The first time I have hears ANY challenge to the prevailing narrative of 'religion of peace....toleration....forgiveness.....solidarity.....business as normal' One person asks 'what did you do about it?' to a Muslim religious leader putting himself up for interview, and it's the interviewer that's being called out?! |
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There is only one thing you need to know about these lunatics , they are start staring bonkers and there are millions of them.
That's why . |
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Roger - The religious leader wasn't there in the studio. He met the bomber and, saw hate and is quoted as saying he wasn't surprised that the guy went on to commit the atrocity. Morgan was calling him out. But no quotes yet from other religious leaders who met the bomber in more radical South Nanchester mosques.
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Manchester, sorry.
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unless you brutally repress this religion it's the norm, look around the world ,look around.
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Like it or not we are at war with Islam and in such a situation Islamists need to be identified as 'good' and 'bad'. Now I know a lot of people will accuse me of racism etc etc however my suggestion is that everyone of them should be made to swear an oath of allegiance to this country and any of them whom the security forces believe are a risk should be rounded up and in the first instance interned in camps on remote islands.
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Posy, thats the only way forward with these pieces of trash, you cannot negotiate, i totally agree, at the same time, we must try Blair for war crimes
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We aren't at War with Islam it's I.S.I.S and I.S.I.L You are putting billions of people Worldwide into the wrong category.
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Blair tried to help these people, he was naïve ok but he thought they were normal human beings.
Now Britain gave sanctuary to this bombers family, they had to leave Lybia when Gadaffi was in power, Now Britain then helps the Lybian people to get rid of Gadaffi, how are we repaid? Now you can`t blame Blair, or Cameron, or the French or American president when you are dealing with lunatics like that. |
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Blair was responding to the nature of these regimes, and we now see the nature not just of the leaders but many of the people also
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So if Gadaffi had been left in power this wouldn't have happened as the terrorists parents
would never have arrived on these shores. |
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That is what these regimes, by their very nature are, evil and brutal.
Now you can take different approaches, do you ignore them, as long as they ignore you? Or under certain circumstances do you get drawn into their madness, such as Syria or elsewhere? That is the dilemma, but first and foremost what you don't do is let it spread to Britain or Europe or any other reasonably civilised country. Its a bit late for that of course, and anyone who tries to do so will be treated like a racist and shouted down by people like facts |
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Breeding tell me how you can identify an Islamist terrorist from an ordinary bloke with a bushy black beard wearing Pakistani garb . They ALL need to be considered a risk until categorised as 'good' muslims .
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The other thing is running a country in the Middle East is not as simple as introducing democracy and
they will become like us, they have great religious divisions that often end up causing friction and war ruling with a strong hand is often thought to be the only solution. |
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we don't have to take the risk, Trump decided early in his presidency that they didn't have to take the risk, guess what happened?
now of course we have the risk from within, its too late? no its not too late there is still time...but only if we now stop all muslims coming to Britain and Europe. |
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It is the irony that he came from a family that fled Gadaffi!! We gave them safety. I believe the family already went back to Libya?
All this obfuscation from starkstaring mad who said it was a gas explosion also saying he hoped it wasn't a terrorist attack. Also grassing up g2d. A thorough going apologist who seeks to confuse the issue. |
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So treat all Milwall fans as hooligans because half a dozen smash a pub up.
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Look I am not concerned with millwall fans.
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Believe it or not there's a difference between half a dozen drunk white working class thugs wrecking a pub and someone blowing up and injuring/killing 70 people.
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Tarring everyone with the same brush.
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An imam was interviewed in manchester. He sounded a really genuine bloke. Went on talking about how they have tried to work hard to be part of Manchester in his mosque. The interviewer then went on to ask 'are you not concerned at what is going on in SOME other mosques in the country and the safety of people. The imam came right back and said he was. Women and children not being able to walk about safely and being spat on etc - the guy wasn't concerned about the general population - only muslim women and children.
In so many interviews imams etc are more concerned about the reputation of islam and protecting it. They don't want it investigated as it will open a whole can of worms. Islam needs very careful examination. |
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Breedingmad you are going to have to understand, not everyone can be trusted to live in England.
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If you allow vast numbers of people into a country the people don't change, the country changes.
What does the country change to? look around the world, look around. |
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when this debate comes up apologists like stark mad seek to confuse the issue - this is his role along with several others
they hate the idea of examining whereabouts it is coming from in this country it does not fit his or their agenda there are a few of us who want to ask questions but he seeks to deflect at every opportunity one wonders what his connections are - one he is pro eu so he will follow the merkel/german/french line we all know how that has worked out just suck up the pro islamic propaganda |
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So what exactly is your agenda?, what can you and your ilk do to prevent and stop terrorism
in the present? nbI didn't call you a derogatory name as it does nothing to advance debate! |
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are you not bothering to read what anyone else says?
the first thing we do is stop all muslims from coming to live in Britain and Europe and America. |
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OOOOOH!!! we are sensitive this morning. I mean - who would start of with such a name such as breedingmad -
How did that gas explosion and non terror attack go then mad? |
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now in Algeria in the eighties they had their own problems with religious extremists.
they were killing and beheading people back then also and the Algerian people became so sickened and terrified that they determined it must not be allowed to happen again They put the army and government agents into every mosque in the country |
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What you are actually advocating is to change British law so that now you are guilty until proven innocent.
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no, not really.
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No he is not - you really are the limit barking mad
Then again we are at war. I dearly hope we are not looking at the suspension of citizens' rights but I fear we may have to change some of them to challenge this assault on the UK. |
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I am advocating not allowing any muslims into Britain, Europe and America.
That will include nice and good people. |
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It is also going to depend on the 6 percent of muslims who support violence. More importantly the 20 percent of young muslims who support the same.
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I have an idea to stop acts like these happening anyone going to Libya Syria e.t.c should
have their baggage checked before leaving and a secretly placed listening device placed in it.If on return the device is missing they obviously could be involved in I.S.I.L or other organizations if the device is still in then remove it and listen that way you have protected the citizens of this Country ..I'm sure it's a lot cheaper than expelling the entire Muslim population of the U.K... |
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Breedingmad you mention Millwall fans, well you may remember back in the 80s when Juventus fans were killed before a final with Liverpool after that English teams were thrown out of Europe so I think that answers your question.
Yes of course there are good muslims the overwhelming majority are, however somewhere within them disagrees with western society values and they are easily radicalised. I don't see many of them being appalled at what has happened so why is that? It is hard to take but they are different to us and what gets me about apologists like you Breedingmad is that you don't take on board what they do to each other in their own country, when they do take over you Liberals will be the first sacrificed as they don't share your view. |
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when they do take over Think you are exaggerating here just because a few nutters say they want to take control of the
World through Islamic State you think it will happen..? |