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i am going to freeze 10 million old age pensioners to death.

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By:
Dr Crippen
When: 20 May 17 14:10
After the baby boomers have left us. And their pensions that they worked hard for have ended. What will those that follow get in the form of pensions?

It's right there above, at today's rates £155 a week. That's your lot.

Very few final salary schemes.
No private pensions with generous annuity rates.
No Second State pension or SERPS.
No retirement at 60-65.

Enjoy your retirement - especially the ones here who begrudge pensioners a comfy last decade or so of life. 
Because it's the one you are fighting for.
By:
casemoney
When: 20 May 17 14:20
Life's a BITCH and then you Die LaughGrinLaugh
By:
lfc1971
When: 20 May 17 14:45
If a country can't finance its health service through those in work there is something wrong with the fundamentals and taking money from pensioners is not going to solve that.
Pensioners left school at 14 or perhaps 12 and spent their lives working, it was a very long road .
Now we are lucky if we can get people out of university before they are 30, and they spend very few years working, its miraculous they expect a health service as well.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 20 May 17 16:21
The labour movement after making giant strides after the war, and wasn't doing too badly up until Labour were elected in 1997. Is now going backwards far quicker than anyone ever thought likely.
And Labour are as much to blame for its decline as the Tories - more in fact.
By:
TheBetterBettor
When: 20 May 17 22:43
Remember this Myleene Klass vs Milliband on the 'Mansion tax'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdKK3ferxmE

Now 'Middle England' says its okay to cash in the housing market to fund NHS/care.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 22 May 17 04:21
have the tories ever gave - they always seem to be stripping the assets.

build up your own people to compete against the world. Why hamper your own people.
free education(i had that) it's now gone. free NHS( i had that, according to Fionavon i'll need it later in life when they put me in a rubber room) they're selling bits off now.
i had new roads and new towns. Not getting those?
they sold off all the utilities. the uk doesn't need to be invaded, it's owned by foreign interests.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 22 May 17 04:25
labour advert with Fry and Laurie in the 90's - we will get rid of tax havens on youtube.

broken promise. the scandal from two years has been forgotten already.
the Panama papers, tip of the iceberg.
By:
ufcdan
When: 22 May 17 07:56
state pension age could go up to 80 tbf  -  most folk pretty healthy at that age these days  - plenty of life in the old sods - and work is much ;lighter than the olden days - no sacks of coal to lug around

Sorry Coachbuster I'm approaching 60. Went to a wedding reception Saturday, a bit of the old McFadden and Whitehead "Ain't no stopping us now" came on. I still fu cking ache from throwing a few Dad moves on the floor Sad I won't make old bones which is handy I could do with a good kip CoolWink
By:
anxious
When: 22 May 17 09:53
I never had you as a Dancing Queen Dan Laugh
By:
treetop
When: 22 May 17 11:31
free education(i had that) it's now gone

Just a reminder that it was a Labour government (backed by the votes of Labour MP's, Blairite or not) that voted for the introduction of tuition fees in 1998. let's not allow the truth to interfere with sentiment.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 22 May 17 15:21
It was.
But it'll take another one to remove them again.

At least they're TRYING to repair some of Blair's (and Thatcher's) awful mistakes.
By:
TheBetterBettor
When: 22 May 17 18:13
Theresa May is getting dementia on her own 'dementia tax' proposals by forgetting to mention the caps
By:
treetop
When: 22 May 17 18:36
It does look like labour will promise the earth,uncosted and always increasing to get into power.How anyone can trust that shower of shyte is beyond me.
By:
akabula
When: 22 May 17 18:47
Free education in Scotland came at a cost.
14,000 Scots refused entry to Scottish Unis because of the quota system, ie they can charge English students so cap the places for Scots.
140,000 college places were also sacrificed.
By:
bongo
When: 22 May 17 20:37
Akabula has nailed the law of unintended consequences:
The price mechanism is a great way of rationing something that is limited - not everyone can go to university after all.
So in England people who value a university education at more than the price will go
And the university has to treat the students like paying customers

Same principle applies to tolls - if a bridge is built to take say 100 million crossings in its lifetime, then stick a price on it which means people will pay to cross it when its worth more than the cost of the toll to get across ( or half that if sharing with one other ).
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 22 May 17 20:49
And if said bridge is paid for by tolls and you promise to stop charging tolls once it's paid for, don't renege on the promise and instead increase the toll.
(See Dartford)

As for universities. Until the mid 80s when all polytechnics, colleges and public urinals became Universities, in a bid to manipulate jobless figures for a couple of years.
Most people didn't go to them. Now it's expected!
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 22 May 17 22:18
^^Public urinal colleges.Laugh
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 22 May 17 22:21
I had to laugh at that, they knocked some bogs down were I used to live and built some houses in their place.

The locals called them public urinal cottages.

It reminded me of that.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 22 May 17 22:37
You don't get many public toilets these days. Are we better at keeping it in now?
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