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A particularly barbaric and vile act of violence, mostly against women. BBC are trying to claim its a white-on-white crime.
I beg to differ. This is a recent phenomenon in this country, almost unheard of a few years ago. Unlike certain other cultures where its been rampant for decades.
you do the math.
I beg to differ. This is a recent phenomenon in this country, almost unheard of a few years ago. Unlike certain other cultures where its been rampant for decades.
you do the math.
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Jesus, is there nothing you can't blame on "dem der foreigners".
Cheaper than guns, init.
Criminals have used acid long before the new arrivals but the increase is worrying, i guess this is what they want with multiculturalism.
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The number of assaults involving acid throwing and other corrosive substances has tripled in six years in England, official records show. NHS hospital figures record 144 assaults in 2011/12 involving corrosive substances, which can include petrol, bleach and kerosene. Six years earlier, 56 such episodes were noted. One British expert says she believes many of the cases involving acid are linked to communities of immigrants from Asia, with women attacked by their husbands or punished for refusing forced marriages.[72]
Criminals have used acid long before the new arrivals but the increase is worrying, i guess this is what they want with multiculturalism.
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The number of assaults involving acid throwing and other corrosive substances has tripled in six years in England, official records show. NHS hospital figures record 144 assaults in 2011/12 involving corrosive substances, which can include petrol, bleach and kerosene. Six years earlier, 56 such episodes were noted. One British expert says she believes many of the cases involving acid are linked to communities of immigrants from Asia, with women attacked by their husbands or punished for refusing forced marriages.[72]
I suspect if it carried a mandatory life sentence it would end overnight.The problem is not with the crime but with the punishment.We've gone totally soft on crime.When was the last time you saw police patrolling your manor?
the msm will always try to con you
met police figures
over 30 percent of acid attacks in London occurred in Knew Ham
hope this clarifies the matter
apparently gangs switching away from guns (which is 42 percent up in the capital)
so we have a massive increase in acid attacks and 42 percent rise in gun crime here in london
those right wing honkeys have a lot to answer for
oh - and porky pine - use shore iz a silly billy
met police figures
over 30 percent of acid attacks in London occurred in Knew Ham
hope this clarifies the matter
apparently gangs switching away from guns (which is 42 percent up in the capital)
so we have a massive increase in acid attacks and 42 percent rise in gun crime here in london
those right wing honkeys have a lot to answer for
oh - and porky pine - use shore iz a silly billy
yep, I am so silly. Looking forward to your blessed crime free utopia.
Are you for real ?
Post 2 : why do you blame it on the foreigners.
post 6: Looking forward to your blessed crime free utopia..
Why do Libtards always always do this, their was a conversation going on.
Post 2 : why do you blame it on the foreigners.
post 6: Looking forward to your blessed crime free utopia..
Why do Libtards always always do this, their was a conversation going on.
IS, Anything outside of their cliched non conversation pieces is beyond them.
It is not possible for them to admit the mistake. It is outside their agenda. But wait till they are outside their homes wanting the 'liberal thinkers' for blasphemy.
Tell me it won't happen.
It already has. In Indonesia. They are clobbering a christian mayor with it - totally undermining him.
They know all the tricks.
Does it sound familiar tacticss.
Over here it is the cry of RAYCIST they use now. But eventually the call will be unbelievers.
And still the guardianista hoardes protest and accuse.
Tell me it won't happen.
It already has. In Indonesia. They are clobbering a christian mayor with it - totally undermining him.
They know all the tricks.
Does it sound familiar tacticss.
Over here it is the cry of RAYCIST they use now. But eventually the call will be unbelievers.
And still the guardianista hoardes protest and accuse.
Why do I do what? Laugh at stupidity and/or bigotry? Well, for giggles mostly and to shine a light on said idiocy in the hope that the author may realise he's been a bit silly and it's not gone unnoticed.
As to the discussion, can we not just accept there are some sick, malicious and downright evil people in this world and we have our fair share of them. Why must the likes of the thread starter here look to deflect blame on to others? It's just nonsense and is frankly the reason why so many threads like this (whether here or in other parts of social media) are laughed at so hard. It reads like an auto-defense mechanism. Look at the Dortmund thread for a classic example. Everyone jumps to the conclusion it must be islamists. Some time passes and it now appears it was something completely different. Thread gets ttted and the conclusion-jumpers get duly laughed at. Is their reaction to apologise, to admit they got this one wrong, maybe to reflect on the error of jumping in too quickly with both feet. Of course not; just deflect. Just point to something else entirely and pretend this means you were really, really right.
If there's some atrocity committed by *gosh* a white Brit then we can't wait to find some specious link to foreigners (here) or we're quick to point out that the perp is mentally ill or some other mitigating circumstances; obviously anyone pointing out the same for some perp with a darker skin is shouted down and part of some MSM conspiracy to introduce sharia law into our homes or some other "agenda".
As to the discussion, can we not just accept there are some sick, malicious and downright evil people in this world and we have our fair share of them. Why must the likes of the thread starter here look to deflect blame on to others? It's just nonsense and is frankly the reason why so many threads like this (whether here or in other parts of social media) are laughed at so hard. It reads like an auto-defense mechanism. Look at the Dortmund thread for a classic example. Everyone jumps to the conclusion it must be islamists. Some time passes and it now appears it was something completely different. Thread gets ttted and the conclusion-jumpers get duly laughed at. Is their reaction to apologise, to admit they got this one wrong, maybe to reflect on the error of jumping in too quickly with both feet. Of course not; just deflect. Just point to something else entirely and pretend this means you were really, really right.
If there's some atrocity committed by *gosh* a white Brit then we can't wait to find some specious link to foreigners (here) or we're quick to point out that the perp is mentally ill or some other mitigating circumstances; obviously anyone pointing out the same for some perp with a darker skin is shouted down and part of some MSM conspiracy to introduce sharia law into our homes or some other "agenda".
The true extent of acid attacks in Britain may be hidden because victims are afraid of reprisals, police say.
Assistant chief constable Rachel Kearton said she wanted to encourage more victims to come forward.
She was speaking after an acid attack at a London nightclub left two people each blinded in one eye and several others with severe burns.
Samir Hussain, who suffered severe burns in a previous attack, called for more to be done to tackle acid attacks.
'Maim and disfigure'
ACC Kearton, from Suffolk Police, who is the National Police Chiefs Council spokesperson on corrosive attacks, told BBC Radio 4's Today Programme that although hundreds of assaults were reported across the country, other victims might be staying silent.
"I do fear that this is a hidden crime and that some of the victims are in fear of reprisal and don't come forward," she said.
As well as the nightclub attack on Monday, over the last month a family were attacked in the street in north London and a driver was carjacked in east London using "noxious substances".
Figures from police forces across the UK suggest that the number of assaults involving corrosive substances has risen by 30% in two years.
In London, the number of attacks increased from 261 in 2015 to 454 last year. About 74% of police investigations since 2014 were wound down because the perpetrators could not be identified or victims were unwilling to press charges.
"It's something that is used in order to maim and disfigure people and, as we've heard, it has lasting physical and emotional damage for victims," said ACC Kearton.
'A life sentence'
Samir Hussain was attacked out of the blue after a trip to the cinema in Crawley, West Sussex, two years ago. His attacker was recently jailed for eight years.
He told the Today programme: "It's one of the pains I can't describe, as soon as the substance hits your face, your skin just starts to corrode. I have burns on multiple places on my body, my arms, my neck, my head. They're going to be there for the rest of my life."
He called for greater restrictions on the availability of acids and longer sentences for perpetrators.
"I've got a life sentence myself, I'm never going to be the person that I wanted to be, and that's down to the actions of this individual," he said.
Restrictions on the sale of sulphuric acid, one of the most commonly used substances in attacks, were introduced in 2015, because of its possible role in the manufacture of explosives.
But ACC Kearton said many corrosive substances were common household products, such as bleach, making it hard to restrict them.
"It is a case of working with the retailers to understand what some of the restrictions are that can be practically put into place so that those who are legitimately purchasing these materials can go ahead with their business," she said.
Social isolation
Jaf Shah, executive director of Acid Survivors Trust International, said the current controls did not prevent people buying smaller quantities of acid.
"You don't need to have a large amount to cause serious physical and emotional damage," he said.
He said the UK-based charity, which advocates for victims worldwide, had become aware of increasing numbers of attacks in the UK over the last three to four years.
Attackers might choose acid as a weapon instead of a gun or knife because there were no penalties for possessing it, he said.
"On a global level, women are the majority of the victims. What we know in the UK is that the majority of perpetrators are young men, as are at least two-thirds of the victims," Mr Shah said. "The majority of the attackers are British white men and the majority of the victims are white men too."
He said that in recent years the UK had seen around 400 acid attacks a year, but that the real figure could be double that because the attacks were intended to intimidate victims into silence.
"The damage is so serious that many survivors carry the scars throughout their lives and it pushes them into pretty serious social isolation," he said.
"That's often the intention of the perpetrators, not just to cause lasting scars but to send a message to the survivors. That's part of the reason people may not report it, the fear of reprisal is very much there."
Assistant chief constable Rachel Kearton said she wanted to encourage more victims to come forward.
She was speaking after an acid attack at a London nightclub left two people each blinded in one eye and several others with severe burns.
Samir Hussain, who suffered severe burns in a previous attack, called for more to be done to tackle acid attacks.
'Maim and disfigure'
ACC Kearton, from Suffolk Police, who is the National Police Chiefs Council spokesperson on corrosive attacks, told BBC Radio 4's Today Programme that although hundreds of assaults were reported across the country, other victims might be staying silent.
"I do fear that this is a hidden crime and that some of the victims are in fear of reprisal and don't come forward," she said.
As well as the nightclub attack on Monday, over the last month a family were attacked in the street in north London and a driver was carjacked in east London using "noxious substances".
Figures from police forces across the UK suggest that the number of assaults involving corrosive substances has risen by 30% in two years.
In London, the number of attacks increased from 261 in 2015 to 454 last year. About 74% of police investigations since 2014 were wound down because the perpetrators could not be identified or victims were unwilling to press charges.
"It's something that is used in order to maim and disfigure people and, as we've heard, it has lasting physical and emotional damage for victims," said ACC Kearton.
'A life sentence'
Samir Hussain was attacked out of the blue after a trip to the cinema in Crawley, West Sussex, two years ago. His attacker was recently jailed for eight years.
He told the Today programme: "It's one of the pains I can't describe, as soon as the substance hits your face, your skin just starts to corrode. I have burns on multiple places on my body, my arms, my neck, my head. They're going to be there for the rest of my life."
He called for greater restrictions on the availability of acids and longer sentences for perpetrators.
"I've got a life sentence myself, I'm never going to be the person that I wanted to be, and that's down to the actions of this individual," he said.
Restrictions on the sale of sulphuric acid, one of the most commonly used substances in attacks, were introduced in 2015, because of its possible role in the manufacture of explosives.
But ACC Kearton said many corrosive substances were common household products, such as bleach, making it hard to restrict them.
"It is a case of working with the retailers to understand what some of the restrictions are that can be practically put into place so that those who are legitimately purchasing these materials can go ahead with their business," she said.
Social isolation
Jaf Shah, executive director of Acid Survivors Trust International, said the current controls did not prevent people buying smaller quantities of acid.
"You don't need to have a large amount to cause serious physical and emotional damage," he said.
He said the UK-based charity, which advocates for victims worldwide, had become aware of increasing numbers of attacks in the UK over the last three to four years.
Attackers might choose acid as a weapon instead of a gun or knife because there were no penalties for possessing it, he said.
"On a global level, women are the majority of the victims. What we know in the UK is that the majority of perpetrators are young men, as are at least two-thirds of the victims," Mr Shah said. "The majority of the attackers are British white men and the majority of the victims are white men too."
He said that in recent years the UK had seen around 400 acid attacks a year, but that the real figure could be double that because the attacks were intended to intimidate victims into silence.
"The damage is so serious that many survivors carry the scars throughout their lives and it pushes them into pretty serious social isolation," he said.
"That's often the intention of the perpetrators, not just to cause lasting scars but to send a message to the survivors. That's part of the reason people may not report it, the fear of reprisal is very much there."
I'd rather be maimed by a knife or gun then acid....life sentence 
They need some hefty sentencing guidelines for this messed up shiit.
They need some hefty sentencing guidelines for this messed up shiit.
Didn't realise it was legal to carry round acid. Seems a loophole that's fairly easy to close. Get on with it eh
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