Dawn Butler

wheres kelvin mckenzie when you need him,
shadow education  bloke on daily politics now ,probably the thickest bloke ive ever heard

Just listened to that. Truly appalling.

what a train wreck of an interview

Seems a likeable woman but thick as mince.

If Corbin wins he'll probably want to make her Home Secretary, and call on her
at the weekend for special government sessions.

everyone points to corbyn for labours woes & even though he's undoubtedly a prize plonker what a shower of thick over promoted idiots he's surrounded by.thornberry,abbott,chakrabati,mcdonell,raynor,butler the lists endless,could pick a better shadow cabinet from the nearest bus queue.

dawn just needs to have a coffee and she'll be back on form, just as long as its not a costa

Any Labour MP with any talent doesn't want anything to do with Corbyn.

Hence he has to scrape the barrel.

I've heard some tosh over the years, but that's up there with the worst.. heaven help us if that woman gets anywhere near government!

would have thought that costas legal team might be interested in that interview.

god help her if she ever gets to be questioned by andrew neil

she apologised to costa coffee shortly afterwards

She should resign.

We need a strong opposition whatever party is in government, and we have none.
Hi Wes.

MIZZ MAY DOESNT WANT STRONG opposition,we,re having an election to get rid of the opposition, her words not mine

So if the positions werent reversed Labour wouldnt do the same ???? Of course they would

Evening fox.

off course they would,so tory mp,s who are often on tv saying they want strong opposition are talking shoite

Yes - they want Opposition who cant stop them doing anything, and are only saying stuff like that for when its their turn to be Opposition

some of these labour members have been car crash events. Corbyn is widely derided but an additional problem is the shadow ministers are of a shocking standard. Seeing them in interviews they just seem to be making things up as they go along. If they continue like this it could be an absolute disaster

MW 2008, That is the problem, in our (Deluded) democracy, it only works for for more than the 'Elite' when it's a constant battle in parliament, right now it's a walkover.

Usually a general election is a battle between a government and government in waiting.

Unfortunately, we have a government versus a protest movement - and a very incoherent one at that.

A very sad and worrying state of affairs.

JC, 30 odd years a protester, its the easiest thing in the world to be in politics. Now a potential leader he doesn't have any answers.. of course.. It's easy to criticise, but asked to give a viable, believable alternative,.. not so easy. They (his supporters)  say he is a man of  principle, examine his past and suprise, suprise, he fckin ain't. Examine any modern politicians Raison d'être, and you will find the same.

Wes, spot on.

New Abbott

Anyone remember Don Butler, the fiddling aways bookie and professional Brummie? The stuff he used to post on here as "CuBoNe" set the benchmark for incoherence.

Perhaps he's had some sort of operation, or undergone a Dr Who-style regeneration, and re-emerged as Dawn Butler?

king of the aways grew his hair then loike Dr Carl Chinn another "University" prof

Don Butler - a name from the past I recognize. Cubone. What's he done wrong now? Not dead?

Dawn Butlerflobberwhat?

Why am I here?

I wouldn't want to wake up at the crack of dawn.

reminds me of Tom Waits, he was so impressed by the opening act, he said, "I'm so goddamn horny, the crack of dawn better be careful around me!"

MIZZ MAY DOESNT WANT STRONG opposition

So why is she having an election??

Wasn't there a story doing the rounds in in WW2 that the allies didn't want Hitler dead as he was doing more damage to Germany whilst he was alive?

Same could be said of Corbyn and the labour party..

maybe we,ve got it the wrong way round,maybe its the electorate who,ve got it wrong,2 years ago there was talk of no party ever getting a majority again and coalitions were the future,now a party who,s been split over europe for 40 years and a pm,chancellor were ditched and the country is split down the middle over europe,we,re talking about sed same party never been out of office again,how does that work

very good 1st time  - I like that brief history - what a turn around!!!

Ps  don't forget it is the media feeding us this spin too 

Like how they  almost ignore the M and I words.

The bearded one's disappear off the radar as soon as tv programmes decently can.

But mention Paris shootings on sky news and they start bleating and worrying about how many votes Le pen might get.
Pure manipulation of the time spent on discussion. Directing it the way they want it to go. 
One presenter (on aljazeera) actually asked 'what do le pen supporters look like'?  I do not joke.

On sky last night a woman was rabbiting on about Putin being the biggest danger with Trump a close second. Trumpton was described by her as delusional and psycho etc etc. The other expert (who is from muslim extraction) and the other presenter, just nodded along with it all.  No questioning her - no analysis - just a quiet acceptance of every word she uttered.   
I know I am driveling on but the shocking imbalance of the so called national tv news programmes in the uk is appalling.  For me it is all about manipulating the electorate into accepting the status quo.
You are only going to get the same lot back in after 9 june and the same in france.

And then the same old propaganda - after all - the journos jobs depend on that status quo.

She's just spoken on ITV News about the poor bloke from her constituency who was stabbed to death in Harlesden London yesterday. She can actually speak, and not just nod as she's always done in PMQ!

Let's hope this is the beginning to justify her mega salary on the shadow front bench courtesy of Mr Corbyn.

yes because the tory party is packed full of intellectual giants like chris grayling.

Mr Grayling is a muppet! He's still in the British Rail age.

Typical Labour air head.

She nodded and smirked at PMQ when her boss spoke, but yet to open her gob to do what she's paid to do ie speak. Could she be the most well paid MP in Parliament per word spoken?

She was on the BBC election programme early this morning about 2ish.
Started off okay but woeful under questioning.
Not surprised shes limited to nodding and smiling in the commons.

Dawn Butler on the media at 2ish this morning? Maybe the Party has finally got the message ie she'd need to pull her weight even though it could be risky letting her speak.

Does anyone think she's knows she's nicknamed the silent "nodding" MP here, and perhaps elsewhere too? She reallneeds to earn her (extra) salary rather than keeping schtum whilst the House Of Commons is on tv.