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Platini
23 Mar 17 13:12
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the latest defence from the terrorist apologists and PC cripples.


will they ever run out of excuses and deflections ?

lone wolf
mentally ill
british born
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By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Mar 17 13:36
I'm glad I don't consider myself to be British anymore, I would be ashamed to death.
By:
alun2005
When: 23 Mar 17 13:38
No surprise at all to learn that 'the accused' is British born.  If, as a country, you do everything possible to deny there is an Enemy Within, don't be surprised if that problem flourishes and grows. The Useful Idiots and Obfuscators have naturally assisted in this process massively.
By:
TheBaron
When: 23 Mar 17 13:39
But the other two still apply, rightLaugh
By:
moisok
When: 23 Mar 17 13:42
Islam first- not british first. More aligned to a foreign culture than Britain.
By:
1st time poster
When: 23 Mar 17 13:49
no doubt amzzam,choudray and co have had lots of kids uk born ,probably plenty we dont no about
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Mar 17 13:49
: ) well I don't know baron you may be right .
I can only be what I am and not what I am not.
And if this sort of thing is British I am glad not to be so anymore

now is that mad, or does it make sense ? It does to me
By:
Torquemada
When: 23 Mar 17 13:50
Social media still talking about the Muslim named by Ch4 yesterday, which they later had to retract with an apology saying he was in prison. If it turns out to be him after all what the hell is going on? What a fiasco! The police know who the murderer is, he was known to intelligence, so let the public know as well.
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Mar 17 14:44
What you have to realise is that there is no such thing as Britain anymore
It is divided from top to bottom and east and west . They believe different things in all aspects of life
politically , culturally , in religion and values from the most important and trivial even in things that can lead to
death and in the freedoms of democratic life,
Everyone is different , they are not the same either inwardly or outwardly
There is no such thing as being British, look around, listen to what people say, listen to what they believe, it will have nothing to do with you .
By:
detraveller
When: 23 Mar 17 14:48
I saw a video of people running away from the site and it was clear there weren't many natives among them. I don't know much about British history but can we pinpoint a certain event after which the multi-culturalism started? Was there a point where people said we 'welcome' immigrants or was there a point where they said we 'need' immigrants?
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Mar 17 14:51
and how did you know who were the British?
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Mar 17 14:51
the natives as you call them
By:
detraveller
When: 23 Mar 17 14:56
I dont know who the british were. or the natives. But im just wondering if there was a starting point to the influx of asian and african people into britain(assuming these people are the trouble makers) and if that influx was more of a we are being nice to them or we fecking need them?

Like if you talk about Germany, you'll see so many Turks here that they think its their right to hold political activities in Germany for elections in Turkey. And we know we invited them here in the 60s because we fecking needed labour. Did something similar happen in Britain?

I know that many people in the subcontinent were awarded land in Britain because the british govt needed to acquire their land in the subcontinent. That explains why they are into their third and fourth generations. Did anything else happen?
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Mar 17 14:58
well I think you are wrong about Germany, and I suppose you will think I am wrong about Britain
By:
dave1357
When: 23 Mar 17 15:00
OP deeply disappointed that the terrorist wasn't an immigrant.


The right wing is ISIS's ally in this country, they are so easily manipulated.
By:
guinness2dear
When: 23 Mar 17 15:01
His name is Blair...
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Mar 17 15:03
well I should think the fact he was British born rather proves the fears of the right wing to have been right , and the leftists wrong
By:
detraveller
When: 23 Mar 17 15:06

Mar 23, 2017 -- 8:58AM, lfc1971 wrote:


well I think you are wrong about Germany, and I suppose you will think I am wrong about Britain


That is what i know about germany. I won't say i am correct 100% but I don't think there is any other explanation for so many turks in Germany. And i'd love if someone can give me a similar event about Britain.

By:
alun2005
When: 23 Mar 17 15:10
Any news of the reported 'accomplice' that was supposedly in the killer car with the 'accused'?

There was a lot of talk yesterday (admittedly from over-excited TV tabloid 'journalists') that there was a 'bald white man' seen beside the other occupant of the car. Needless to say the 'bald white man' was hurriedly promoted to pre-eminence in the terror event in the bits I saw.

Any news of this missing man, or was he just a hitch-hiker being given a lift to Westminster by the helpful killer driver?  He surely can't have disappeared into thin air?
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Mar 17 15:10
no there was no similar event, of course people will say we needed NHS workers from abroad in the 1950s
I suppose that might be possible, but we seem to still be needing them today and that makes me suspicious that they
maybe hadn't thought about anything very logically
I don't know why
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Mar 17 15:15
Is there any immigration into Germany today detraveller ? They will have a new reason this time perhaps
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Mar 17 15:18
Those thousands , millions? of Turkish workers that Germany needed
how was that, did they all find employment?
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Mar 17 15:35
I see there have been complaints about English football fans at the match last night singing
'10 German bombers' to the tune of 10 green bottles
the RAF shot them down
disgraceful
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Mar 17 15:37
we don't like to see such behaviour from the English, that's how wars are started
By:
moisok
When: 23 Mar 17 15:40
erdagoon the turk head of the new ottoman empire is saying no european will be safe to walk the streets

and not from some dirty filthy right wing rag

nice fella

and he has a lot of support in europe

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/turkey-erdogan-germany-netherlands-warning-europeans-not-walk-safely-a7642941.html
By:
moisok
When: 23 Mar 17 15:42
he has also told turks in europe to have 5 children each

shades of mr Gaddafi
By:
guinness2dear
When: 23 Mar 17 15:42
Lower league clubs tend to follow Engerland around the most as their own team is shíte. Most of these are Norfolk scramblers and Nuneaton ladyboys..
By:
Foinavon
When: 23 Mar 17 15:56
I'll try and answer your question as best I can, Det.
The two main events which changed this country were WW2 and the dismantling of the British Empire. We had to rebuild after the war with reduced manpower and no money and the peoples of the former empire were given the option of claiming a British passport.
I was born in an industrial city close to the end of the war in 1945 and until about the age of ten the only foreigners I saw were either Polish or Irish. The first commonwealth immigrants were from the Caribbean in the 50s and 60s and they were mainly employed in the growing numbers of factory jobs and the health service. On a personal note, my wife came here as a trainee nurse in the late 60s.
There were also a growing number of immigrants from India and Pakistan (Bangladesh being East Pakistan at that time). I saw many Sikhs working on the buses for example.
A big influx occurred when Idi Amin gained control of Uganda and expelled many of the Asians from that country. Many came here looking for asylum and created many businesses. Around this time the Government changed the status of the passport qualifications for foreigners in an attempt to stem the flow. Different governments have had different attitudes towards immigration and the Blair governments from 1997 to 2010 appear to have had an almost open door policy as the numbers swelled significantly during that period.
I don't claim to have any special knowledge about this and some may disagree with my conclusions so let's hear from them.
By:
onlooker
When: 23 Mar 17 15:59
^ '... the Blair governments from 1997 to 2010 appear to have had an almost open door policy as the numbers swelled significantly during that period.'
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Precisely because BLAIR knew that they would all be told to, and so do, vote LABOUR.
By:
moisok
When: 23 Mar 17 16:32
Two people (one a candidate at the stoke bi election) have been arrested for anti islamic  whoops I mean incitement etc

free speech going down the pan
By:
moisok
When: 23 Mar 17 16:39
The guardian dare not open a comments column despite numerous topic headlines and stories.  They are more concerned about writing articles about the Right wing(?) using the situation.
But odd how most other newspapers have opened comment columns  I wonder why this might be.
By:
dave1357
When: 23 Mar 17 16:44

Mar 23, 2017 -- 10:32AM, moisok wrote:


Two people (one a candidate at the stoke bi election) have been arrested for anti islamic  whoops I mean incitement etc free speech going down the pan


doing isis's work - they will prob get their legal expenses paid by Abu fkr

By:
alun2005
When: 23 Mar 17 16:46
More on the 'British born'

.
https://order-order.com/2017/03/23/attacked-named-khalid-masood-52/
By:
Torquemada
When: 23 Mar 17 17:58
Just testing. My posts seem to be getting removed.
By:
Platini
When: 23 Mar 17 18:07
spot on CJ

Its a disgraceful position to take.
By:
Torquemada
When: 23 Mar 17 18:13
Dave wrote something similar on my earlier thread. Post and entire thread since deleted by the mods.
By:
Injera
When: 23 Mar 17 18:23
Not sure what's worse, an immigrant doing that or a UK passport holder doing it.

The fact that a British citizen would want attack people in such a cowardly way then storm Parliament makes me lean towards the latter.

I think 12 nationalities are represented among the victims. One can only hope the disdain for Islam will grow across the world.
By:
CJ70
When: 24 Mar 17 01:24

Mar 23, 2017 -- 12:07PM, Platini wrote:


spot on CJIts a disgraceful position to take.


My post asking dave1357 to apologise for his crass statement has been removed.

To anyone looking on, judging people by their nationality or race and not their deeds is wrong no matter if you feel someone is on your side.

I'll keep posting that even though someone seems to have a problem with it.

By:
Poppydog.
When: 24 Mar 17 01:53
Bloke called Adrian

Born in Kent, childhood in quaint, nostalgic Rye (and possibly here in Eastbourne)
By:
Torquemada
When: 24 Mar 17 08:48
Dave1357 has a history of posting abuse CJ. Look at the Dusseldorf thread last week, he cannot help himself, whenever he starts losing an argument he starts getting abusive.
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