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scottish indyref2 - yes 51% no 49%

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By:
xmoneyx
When: 09 Mar 17 15:32
uh oh - PANIC

DAVID Davis has opened up the possibility of a separate immigration policy for Scotland
By:
breadnbutter
When: 09 Mar 17 15:40
indy ref 2 aint going to happen ...you lost ,get over it Laugh
By:
xmoneyx
When: 09 Mar 17 15:45
does ruby get over annie power
By:
xmoneyx
When: 09 Mar 17 15:48
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/cheltenham-festival-2015-annie-power-5306348
By:
not allowed to bet
When: 09 Mar 17 16:00
SNP just try to whip up more hatred against the english

It is all rather unseemly is it not.

The nastier side of nationalism.
We all know how that ends up.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 09 Mar 17 16:19
Scottish Green Party?

hatred ?


so you hate Europe ?
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 09 Mar 17 16:36
Scottish Greens now there's a great old conundrum!

Want independence financed by, what?

It wouldn't be oil for the internal combustion engine would it??!
By:
Gallivanter
When: 09 Mar 17 17:07
If Scotland leaves the UK then the UK ceases to exist. You can't have a "United" Kingdom with only one kingdom in it. Ireland is now mostly a republic and the half a dozen counties that aren't in the Republic don't even constitute the full province of Ulster. Wales is a principality, not a kingdom.

All of which leaves England struggling to find a name for the new country of which it becomes a majority shareholder.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 09 Mar 17 17:18
little britain
By:
donny osmond
When: 09 Mar 17 17:18
united kingdom, not united kingdoms


we are not all paul nuttalls from ukips , thank yous
By:
breadnbutter
When: 09 Mar 17 17:26
if they had another which they wont soapy would just say its not best of three its first to three and demand another roll of the dice,then it would be first to five ect Laugh
By:
Gallivanter
When: 09 Mar 17 17:27
It was originally the United Kindom of Great Britain then the United Kindom of Great Britain and Ireland. Since 1922 it's been the United Kingom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

What's next? The United Kingdom of a Bit of Great Britain and a Bit of Ireland? (BTW, I don't think that "Bit of Ireland" will be in the box in six years' time.)
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Mar 17 17:31
what was it before that?
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Mar 17 17:32
around Shakespeares time.
By:
donny osmond
When: 09 Mar 17 17:32
england and cymru ?
By:
donny osmond
When: 09 Mar 17 17:34
m.c.c Love
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Mar 17 17:35
there may have been other parts of Britain and Ireland before that, I don't know who they were
By:
xmoneyx
When: 09 Mar 17 17:46
pagans
By:
Gallivanter
When: 09 Mar 17 17:56
England had been taken over by the Welsh Tudors and both countries were usually called England. Elizabeth of England also claimed to be Queen of Ireland and France.

Scotland was ruled by Mary Queen of Scots until she was murdered by her cousin, Elizabeth. Mary's son, James, now became King of Scots. When his Auntie Lizzie (Queen of England, Ireland, France, etc) fell off her barstool, James, King of Scots, also became King of England and the other stuff.

That was known as the Union of The Crowns. Everybody (except Wales) had their own parliament. The French thought it was all a joke.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 09 Mar 17 18:03
barstool

multibet king
By:
TheBetterBettor
When: 09 Mar 17 18:39
No doubt that wee nicky will get the 'fracking' diggers in action to counteract the depleted oil revenues
By:
TheBetterBettor
When: 09 Mar 17 18:40
Half Jock Trump will put a stop to it all.
By:
Gallivanter
When: 09 Mar 17 18:44
When we had the Brexit vote, non-British members of the EU (apart from the Irish living in Britain) were not allowed to vote. British expatriates were also allowed to vote. That was deemed fair.

However, in the Scottish referendum, non-Scottish residents of Scotland were allowed to vote but Scottish expatriates were not allowed to vote. Somehow that was also deemed fair.

Without the votes of non-Scots who happened to live in Scotland at the time, there seems no doubt that the UK would have been dismantled. Interesting.
By:
akabula
When: 09 Mar 17 19:38
Where is the economic case for independence?
With a £15B black hole in our finances how do we fill it?
We have to increase taxation by 18% or decrease spending by 15% or a mixture of both.
Currently our deficit is about 10% of our GDP which is the worst in the developed world.
By:
Just Checking
When: 09 Mar 17 19:40
Very selective. And what about with the votes of all the non-Scots living outside Scotland at the time?
By:
TheBetterBettor
When: 09 Mar 17 19:40
^^^^^^^ Thats right....

A vote by Theresa May's terms only could squeak it for the 'no' vote.
By:
akabula
When: 09 Mar 17 19:43
TheBetterBettor
No doubt that wee nicky will get the 'fracking' diggers in action to counteract the depleted oil revenues


A definitive decision is constantly being delayed.
You don't have to think too hard to realise why?
Wee Nicki has the Greens like puppets on a string just now but that would change if she gave the okay to fracking.
So because of that no decision will be made until after indyref2 if that happens.
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Mar 17 19:47
The reason Scottish people living outside England were not given the vote might be because they are liable to vote for Scottish independence and continue living in England.
Now if they were allowed to vote, and they had to consider the consequences if that vote being no longer having the right to live and work in England that would be a different thing and yes they could be allowed to vote
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Mar 17 19:47
*scots living in England
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Mar 17 19:48
It's a bit much to vote for independence and think you can retain the rights of British citizens
By:
Wallflower
When: 09 Mar 17 21:02
.....and the answer to your looming question lfc is  YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

don't want to be British citizens is the point of the whole thing, so couldn't give a fiddlers
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Mar 17 21:05
Laugh thank`s wallflower, that`s settled everything for me
By:
Gallivanter
When: 09 Mar 17 21:27
It gets more interesting. Demographic forecasts for Northern Ireland suggest that in 2020 there will be a majority of voters there who are native to the six counties and who would vote for a united Ireland if given the opportunity. The hundredth anniversary of the partition of Ireland will be in 2021. A referendum about that time is almost a certainty.

Scotland is likely to seize the chance to demand an other referendum at the same time and under the rules that were used for the Britex vote. In five years, England, Wales, the Channel Islands, the Isle of Man and Gibraltar will be independent.
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Mar 17 21:31
ah, i don`t think the rep. of Ireland is independent yet.
By:
JML
When: 09 Mar 17 21:37
I live in Wales and I don't think the Welsh are stupid enough to vote for independence.
By:
breadnbutter
When: 09 Mar 17 21:45
republic  voted No to the EU but were sent  back to do it again like silly school children

they have never had an indy vote and wont ever be given one
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Mar 17 21:48
they don't deserve one after that sort of behaviour
By:
Gallivanter
When: 09 Mar 17 21:49
JML 09 Mar 17 21:37 
I live in Wales and I don't think the Welsh are stupid enough to vote for independence.


My meaning must have been unclear. I meant to suggest that a new country that did not contain any part of Scotland or Ireland would have to be formed from the remainder of the UK. I don't see Wales ploughing a lone furrow.
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Mar 17 21:51
it can`t be done, its impossible for the countries on these islands to be independent. they never have been at any time in history.
By:
lfc1971
When: 09 Mar 17 21:52
we could try an experiment, lets say with the rep of Ireland first.
maybe it might want to try independence, lets see.
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