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1. Darwin expressed worry about LACK of intermediate fossils. 2. Animals appear fully formed in fossil records? no previous linking organisms? Bats, example. 3. Lack of a viable mechanism for producing high levels of complex and specified information in DNA. 4.DNA has a self repair mechanism that actively stops mutations. 5. The failure of chemistry to explain the origin of the genetic code. "The origin of life remains a mystery" the 2011 evolution conference entitled.. don't tell the creationists but we have no idea how life began. 6. The failure of developmental biology to explain why vertebrate embryos diverge from the beginning of development. 7.The failure of neo-Darwinian evolution to explain the bio geographical distribution of many species. 8. Possible soft tissue samples in Dinosaur bones being recovered (ongoing research). 9. A long history of inaccurate predictions inspired by neo-Darwinism regarding vestigial organs or so-called "junk" DNA. no longer regarded as junk DNA. 10. Humans show many behavioral and cognitive traits and abilities that offer no apparent survival advantage (e.g. music, art, religion, ability to ponder the nature of the universe). 11. Animals with a specific number of chromosomes do not shift their chromosomes numbers and remain fertile. therefore cannot become another species.12. Molecular Biology has Failed to Yield a Grand "Tree of Life" 13.nature magazine - lists a Adam and Eve Progenitor couple as being the nexus of Humanity in Africa. http://www.nature.com/news/genetic-adam-and-eve-did-not-live-too-far-apart-in-time-1.13478?WT.mc_id=FBK_NatureNews 14.INFORMATION has a sender, DNA has information, a 4bit code. CAGT.15. Many tens thousands of Subtractive/destructive mutations exist, Cancer now kills one in three. Professor Dawkin's was asked famously if he new of any positive mutations that benefit the Human Genome. His response was silence that lasted a day? eventually posting one mutation after consultation with other sources. Ytube clip available. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W4e4MwogLo&t=108s 16. Science on Anti evolutionist theories is being curtailed by discriminatory practices. Many PhD biologists are being fired for putting forward intelligent design or contrary viewpoints. Science is about revision. This is anti science. 17."computers have shown that the neat evolutionary trees that get drawn up are in fact based on imaginary relations of similarity and difference that owe more to the human mind's tendency to perceive patterns than to the raw biological data". 18.Neo-Darwinism has a Long History of Inaccurate Darwinian Predictions about Vestigial Organs and "Junk DNA" 19.No example of any living species evolving into another species exists. After 200 years under the microscope. 20. after 67,000 generations - of breeding ecoli, Richard Lenski, Michigan university has not noticed ecoli evolving into anything other than ecoli. 21. evolution emphasizes 'micro evolution' previously called animal husbandry as proof of 'macro evolution' which is one species turning into another species. Variation within a species is a fact, no one contests it. from Wolf to German Shepherd. 22. Many example of fakery by prominent scientists exists, missing link fakery and other research. Piltdown man most famously. (https://evolutionisntscience.wordpress.com/evolution-frauds) 23. Birds that are forming wings? while those wings are moving to a workable wing able to send that bird into the air. which will take hundreds of generations?.. it is a liability to the creature. Something which most likely will see the creature die out using the evolutionary rules of natural selection? It also implies there is an end goal of flight behind the mechanism? that flight is inevitable. 24. "Just so stories" (Rudyard Kipling) that prop up gaps in the theory. Giraffes, we are told, got long necks in order to browse the leaves at the tops of acacia trees... available to no other mammal. stretch your neck kiddies. 25. Strange Statements that mean nothing. the species 'emerged" 26. "Only mutations in the reproductive (germ) cells of an animal or plant would be passed on. Mutations in DNA happen fairly often, but most are repaired or destroyed by mechanisms in animals and plants. All known mutations in animal and plant germ cells are neutral, harmful, or fatal. 27. "Some evolutionist researchers went looking for classic sweeps in humans, and reported their findings in the journal Science. "To evaluate the importance of classic sweeps in shaping human diversity, we analyzed re sequencing data for 179 human genomes from four populations". "In humans, the effects of sweeps are expected to persist for approximately 10,000 generations or about 250,000 years." Evolutionists had identified "more than 2000 genes as potential targets of positive selection in the human genome", and they expected that "diversity patterns in about 10% of the human genome have been affected by linkage to recent sweeps." So what did they find? "In contrast to expectation," their test detected nothing, but they could not quite bring themselves to say it. They said there was a "paucity of classic sweeps revealed by our findings". Sweeps "were too infrequent within the past 250,000 years to have had discernible effects on genomic diversity." "Classic sweeps were not a dominant mode of human adaptation over the past 250,000 years." --Hernandez, Ryan D., Joanna L. Kelley, Eyal Elyashiv, S. Cord Melton, Adam Auton, Gilean McVean, 1000 Genomes Project, Guy Sella, Molly Przeworski. 18 February 2011. Classic Selective Sweeps Were Rare in Recent Human Evolution. Science, Vol. 331, no. 6019, pp. 920-924." 28.A true science, like physics, makes claims that can be tested and thus potentially falsified; this vulnerability is what makes it worthy of belief when despite this, the falsification does not happen. But evolution does not make claims of this kind. 29. "Orphan genes are defined as genes which lack detectable similarity to genes in other species". "They typically make up 10 to 30% of all genes in a genome."30. Mendel's accountant - a computer program that threw out the possibility that man might deteriorate within a thousand years to a extinct species. 31.Evolutionists Quote the bible and the six thousand year limit set in the bible. The bible sets no age for creation. It does set the time Adam started to exist at six thousand years ago. Again this date might be irrelevant as Time is a concept that is not measurable in the past. Time is variable in physics. Atomic clocks show different times and time might have moved at a faster pace in the past? This is being questioned by many physicists. 32. Darwinism has links to Hindu beliefs, linked with Victorian mysticism - the theory of Natural selection has been attributed to Darwin's colleague - Alfred Russel Wallace(also Herbert Spencer philosopher. ), "Wallace was strongly attracted to unconventional ideas. His advocacy of spiritualism and his belief in a non-material origin for the higher mental faculties of humans strained his relationship with some members of the scientific establishment." It's said he came up with the survival of the fittest theory while under a narcotic influence in a tribal setting. From the outset Darwinism was linked with Spiritualism. As a religion which it emulates, it constantly throws out evidence, and gives the excuse that the future will throw up some vital fact which will prove it's reliability. 33. "They cut the theory's last connection to reality, declaring that the impossible is normal: of course genes are produced de novo! The new foundation of evolution theory is Poof - there it is (which sounds like the foundation of creation by Intelligent Design - de novo)." 34. "the evolution of insect metamorphosis remains a genuine biological mystery even today." "Metamorphosis is a truly bizarre process". Nevertheless, "biologists have established a plausible narrative about the origin of insect metamorphosis, which they continue to revise as new information surfaces."
35. "butterflies - the Blue Morpho. That shimmering blue on top is not pigment. These extremely tiny shapes that cover the scales on top of the wing cause light wave interference. Blue light has a wavelength range from 400 to 480 nm. The slits in the scales of the Morpho are 200 nm apart. Because the distance between slits corresponds to half of the wavelength of blue light, this is the wavelength that undergoes constructive interference. The slits are attached to a base of melanin, a material that absorbs light, further strengthening the blue image. If evolutionists get around to making up a story for how these structures evolved, what do you think it will be? Come on, use your imagination!" 36. Darwin's own doubts - Darwin expressed serious doubts about his own theory, Lack of intermediate/transitional fossils? Darwin Admitted it is Absurd to Believe that the Eye Could have been Formed by Natural Selection, Darwin Admitted that Events like The Cambrian Explosion would be Fatal to the Theory. 37. "Life's origin has been most ardently pursued by chemists, apparently on the unspoken premise that once the molecular building blocks are on hand, cellular organization will take care of itself. That premise is surely incorrect. Modern cells do not assemble themselves from preformed constituents, and they would not have done so in the past." 38. Abiogenesis or bio-genesis - has been abandoned and prominent evolutionists will now say that they don't have a viable starting mechanism for life. Yet abiogenesis is still a theory, which is quoted by some. 39. In a lecture in 2014, famous "origin-of-life" researcher Jack Szostak - Regarding the third problem, the RNA backbone is always the same in living things. But making it with chemicals in a lab leads to haphazard forms. Szostak believes this will not be much of an obstacle after all. The last problem on the list is about magnesium ions. They are required for copying RNA, but they also degrade RNA and destroy membranes. His lab's experiments found that adding citrate to the magnesium ions prevents the destruction. That is hardly surprising since citrate is essential to cellular metabolism, but citrate is not a plausible prebiotic chemical because it is a product of living things. He did not mention that in the lecture.40. "Why can't we reproduce this chemical phenomena of the creation of life, and why isn't it still happening? We still have single celled organisms all the way up through full blown multi cellular organisms. So why can't we find really simple non-DNA life also in this chain? The truth is... if evolution is a big chain, the beginning is missing. " 41. Atheists and the religious both doubt evolution. It's not just the religious. A lot of evolutionists throw mud or cast intellectual authority at anyone who disagrees with their position. They Mimic the Church's attitude to Galileo centuries ago. They have a doctrine. which they protect? 42. "There are two versions of evolution theory. The main version proposes that many tiny changes over millions of years made new creatures. It is called the Modern Synthesis or Neo-Darwinian evolution. Then there's another that says that leaps are made occasionally? It says that change occurred by occasional leaps (punctuated equilibrium), not gradually. However, each hypothetical beneficial mutation could only make a slight change. Any more than that would be so disruptive as to cause death." 43. ""It is now generally recognized that beneficial mutations are rare, and that high-impact beneficial mutations are extremely rare. In higher life forms where population sizes are modest, the mutation rate per nucleotide per generation is normally extremely low (about 10 to the power of 8). This means that the waiting time for a specific nucleotide within single chromosomal lineage would be 100 million generations." 44. "Storytelling. First they assumed evolution occurred. Then they estimated how fast it should have happened, and decided that the creatures in the Cambrian Explosion had been evolving for over 250million years before any showed up in the rocks as fossils! "We estimate that the last common ancestor of all living animals arose nearly 800 million years ago and that the stem lineages leading to most extant phyla had evolved by the end of the Ediacaran (541 million years ago)." Yes, millions of generations of all kinds of creatures all over the world living, dying, evolving without leaving any trace of their existence. Not only that, "from the early Paleozoic onward there is little addition of new phyla and classes". "Little high-level morphological innovation occurred during the subsequent 500 million years". Their story was published in the prestigious journal Science, and was hailed as having solved a mystery challenging evolution theory all the way back to Darwin. --Erwin, Douglas H., Marc Laflamme, Sarah M. Tweedt, Erik A. Sperling, Davide Pisani, Kevin J. Peterson. 2011. The Cambrian Conundrum: Early Divergence and Later Ecological Success in the Early History of Animals. Science, Vol. 334, pp. 1091-1097."45. compound eyes of insects - "When the earliest form is the most complex, there is no evolution." 46. "A significant part of early vertebrate evolution is unknown." 47. "Evolutionists told us The damselfly, has not shown up in the fossil record for 250-300 million years! Dozens of the Ancient Greenling Damselfly live near Melbourne, Australia. "The damselfly, part of the dragonfly group Odonata, is the only living representative of the family Hemiphlebiidae. Its ancient predecessors are found solely in 250-300 million-year-old fossil records from Brazil to Russia." --Smith, Bridie. January 5, 2010. Found: fossil-linked, listed damselfly. www.theage.com.au (newspaper website)48. New discoveries are bringing down the whole notion of a "tree of life", as passages from an article in the mainstream magazine New Scientist show -https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126921-600-why-darwin-was-wrong-about-the-tree-of-life/ 49. Is there enough time for evolution to work? the earth might be 4 billion years old - the earth would have to cool? All systems in place before life gets the ideal conditions to begin. 50. "Vanishing vestigials - If evolutionists do not know what something does, they assume it is useless, as we will see with "junk DNA". One of their "proofs" of evolution has been that as creatures evolve, some body parts that were useful long ago become less important in the new and improved creatures." 51. Fibonacci sequence observed in flowers, magnets and atoms. 1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89 etc. a cosmic signature? 52. Life only looks like it was designed? you have to constantly remind yourself that it is not? Dawkins actually said this? paraphrased to don't trust your eyes children. Well, in science there is something called observations. testability. lots of quotes - apologies to researchers. cram space only. 53. Geology a new science. Plate techtonics only became a theory in the 1960's. they date a fossil by it's location in the layers, and date the layers because of what it holds. 54. Carbon 14 has a half life of 5,730 years, All carbon 14 planet wide should be gone if the planet is billions of years old. It cannot be used to date bones, unless it's a few thousand years old. they also ask you to fill in the probable date of the sample in the form, when requesting a date? 55. the Miller Urey experiment in the fifties? no update? - they fail to tell you you need to produce all proteins for a cell. also that the product in the flask is toxic to life. If proteins are formed they won't last long in the toxic soup by product. 56. no living observable example of one species turning into a new species exists in real time. The planet has many million species. This has been tried with bacteria in labs. Many thousands of generations have been manipulated trying to observe evolution. NADA. 57. species numbers are declining, not in an upward trend. Information is being lost. Entropy. 58. animals with genetic defects, mutation, die off. They do not thrive. 59. software disconnect – the genome of one animal is different from the genome of another animal or plant. There is no cross breeding between a mouse and a banana. A one percent drift? is enough to separate any species. Millions of separate species in that 100 percent range. From bacteria, to a spider, to a mouse to a Man –all within that 100 percent range. A chimp being a 96 percent match to a man is a huge gulf. Not even close. 60. Not enough to have a miracle of physical evolution? But then there is consciousness – the ability of self awareness. Ideas being swapped between men. Concepts like dimensionality. higher functions not being accessed by the animals. 61. Darwinism’s arrogance – it looks down on past wrong thought in science and philosophy as if it was a shameful thing. They do not acknowledge the journey, the lessons of nothing in science being a fact. They keep making the statement – this is a fact. 62. All of the universe anyone observes is in four dimensions, but there is research into higher dimensions. Possibly twelve dimensions. Yet Professor Dawkins says there is no room for God? Insane arrogance. 63. the odds of one amino acid forming is ten to the power of 260, ten with 260 zeroes running behind it – calculated by Francis Crick himself. An evolutionist. At least twenty amino acids are needed to make a protein. Many more proteins to make a cell. ABRACADABRA. Easy to say… harder to do.64.BS alert - Some animals evolve, some don't ? Some just hit a wall. Spiders haven't changed much or crocodiles? they don't need to evolve? they are perfectly suited to their environment. Says Man. 65 Arbitrary classification - recently some species have been reshuffled into different categories? WHY? because the DNA results showed they were not in the right category? Looking at animals and saying they are similar means nothing. It's an opinion.

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By:
dave1357
When: 04 Mar 17 18:17
if you are going to cut and paste 3000 words of sh1te, at least have the courtesy to put in some paragraphs.
By:
Aunty Post
When: 04 Mar 17 18:19
That was a fantastic read about "evilution"!

I didn't quite follow, so will read again later....
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 04 Mar 17 18:20
More - we want more....
he was a nut, he spent all his time fighting Dilberts online.

In the image of God. why do you want to be in the image of Cheetah?
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 04 Mar 17 18:21
It's condensed for blogs. I wrote it months ago.
By:
cardifffc
When: 04 Mar 17 21:36
I agree the talking snake makes more sense
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 04 Mar 17 21:37
Brilliant from Aunty Laugh
By:
Harry R Scrack
When: 05 Mar 17 21:34
Main problem I have with evilution is the spelling
By:
brassneck
When: 05 Mar 17 22:19
Darwin talks bull,the Apes we see today did not turn into humans.Laugh.how come that happened.?
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 05 Mar 17 22:24
The issue with the people who doubt evolution (I think that's what the opening post is about!), is that they never consider what a long time it all takes.
It's impossible to comprehend how long a million years is, or 100 million, or a billion and how gradual changes are looked at with millions of years of gaps between looks.

I'll just deal with the top line of what you wrote.

1. Fossils ARE intermediate already. New ones are discovered all the time and fill the gaps as time goes on, but they're not that common as a lot of time has passed since they were living creatures and they mostly got eaten or rotted away. It took special conditions to make fossils and the reason there are quite a few is just that there weren't many but they gathered over a VERY LONG TIME.

2. Loads of fossils, most in fact are NOT fully formed. Also it is reckoned that 99.9% of every creature that has existed on earth is extinct. There are many reasons for this. We simply don't know what happened in the past, there is much to discover and learn. In the meantime a God or several Gods will do by way of explanation, for most.

3. DNA was only recently discovered. Mechanisms of its manipulation are being developed all the time. Again we just haven't learned or discovered enough yet to unravel every answer to every question, much less deal with people who refuse to believe it wasn't all made in 6 days by a being no-one has actually seen.

I could go on, I really could.
The biggest advice I have zorro, is don't try to publish it, even if you do tidy up the syntax and grammar.
By:
Hank Hill
When: 05 Mar 17 22:43
I think it's best to leave religion off of chit chat. Evangelicals like zorro will not change their mind and people such as myself and other atheists on here won't accept a god without scientific evidence. You seem like a nice guy zorro but I think I'll stick to looking at your efforts on the drawing thread which are excellent.
By:
Foinavon
When: 05 Mar 17 23:23
Apes we see today did not turn into humans

Well done, Brassneck, that's absolutely true. We ARE one of the apes we see today. We all evolved from a common ancestor.
By:
brassneck
When: 05 Mar 17 23:55
YES,the apes today should be wearing skirts and trousers and living in houses and betting,and drinking,and dancing the night away.
so Darwin has a lot to explain.Laugh
By:
Capt__F
When: 06 Mar 17 00:03
civil partnershis played their part
By:
doantwin2easy
When: 06 Mar 17 00:20
Grooming thread (ape style).
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 06 Mar 17 04:33
NOBODY in all history questions Micro evolution. It's Macro evolution that is problematic.

If you do not know the difference. Then you are lazy in your beliefs.
By:
DStyle
When: 06 Mar 17 05:28
lol. there is no difference you chump.
By:
cardifffc
When: 06 Mar 17 10:55
dstyle.........its just time
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 06 Mar 17 23:55
a man with a big nose passes that feature onto his children. micro evolution.
a man with a big nose has a child with wings and a new species is born. macro evolution.

pigs breed pigs, not otters.

not one animal changes into another animal.

Richard Lenski has been breeding e-coli for thirty years, 67,000 generations, he's still got e-coli. Some are better some are worse. But none have became another bacterium.

67,000 generations. (that's times x 20 years for humans, age you might have offspring) 1.34 million years equivalent time passing for humans.

1.34 million years, and nothing....?

spiders are the same?
scorpions are the same?
crocs, bats and tens of thousands of other critters all around millions of years ago?

Maybe you are dreamers? enjoy the cartoons and animations of monkeys turning into men. Of fish turning into birds. looking at an owl and comparing it's structure to a whale is a hoot.
By:
doantwin2easy
When: 07 Mar 17 01:05
You only have to look at the advances in gene therapy, to appreciate that any animal can be subject to genetic adaptations, that can change the course of its evolution.

Some of these adaptations occur naturally.

If you concede that percentage wise, we're genetically very very similar to some of the great apes, it's not such a big leap of faith to accept that one might have evolved from the other.

It's our intellect, consciousness and ability to reflect, that give us that feeling of superiority and uniqueness. These could easily be bi-products of our evolution.

Take a trip to the local pub on a saturday night, and you'll appreciate that we're driven by many of the same instincts as other species.
By:
scissors
When: 07 Mar 17 01:57
Evilution is satan personified !!
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 07 Mar 17 09:16
a man with a big nose has a child with wings and a new species is born. macro evolution.
No it's not it's mutation.
By:
dave1357
When: 07 Mar 17 10:17
Richard Lenski has been breeding e-coli for thirty years, 67,000 generations, he's still got e-coli. Some are better some are worse. But none have became another bacterium.

I have no idea whether this is true, but you don't seem to understand the process of evolution in any case.

For a mutation to be passed on and flourish, it either has to enable an organism to take advantage of a new resource or, if there are no new resources, be at least as good as the competition at taking advantage of these unchanged conditions. 

Bacteria have been about for 100s of millions of years.  They are perfectly adapted to their environment.  It is highly unlikely that mutations from cell division would lead to a superior method of utilising environmental resources.  ie Highly unlikely that a new "species" - (I'm not even sure that species is a proper term for bacteria)- will develop unless the environment changes.

btw you also do not appear to understand that sexual reproduction will produce far more variance and possibility of adaption to changing environments than reproduction from cell division.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 07 Mar 17 11:56
Richard Lenski - Michigan University - Google it .

Why are Apes like humans? because of the opposable thumb?
the DNA resemblance has been taken down from (99 percent in 1995) to 97 percent.
a two percent drop in a scale of 100, 100 containing every life form on the earth. Millions of species. They don't ever phrase it that way? why?

KOALA BEAR - marsupial. Has opposable thumbs.


here is the usual fare....
Human thumbs are called opposable thumbs. They are called opposable because the thumb can be moved around to touch the other fingers, which gives people the ability to grasp things. Most primates (humans, apes, and Old World monkeys) and some other animals have opposable thumbs.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 07 Mar 17 12:11
a man has 46 chromosomes.
a potato has 46 chromosomes.
a chimp has 48 chromosomes.(24 pairs)

no animal has changed chromosome count and remained fertile.
if it gains 1 it loses the ability of reproduction. Such as the mule.

So I could make a spurious connection that we have the same amount of chromosomes as a POTATO. indeed we have a 100 percent match. in numbers at least. This is what I would term massaging the figures. (lying) All the figures are correct, but the content is debatable.
By:
cardifffc
When: 07 Mar 17 12:48
isn't there some creationist nutbag forum you can torture people  zorro.......in other words....f*** off this forum spouting your rubbish
By:
Foinavon
When: 07 Mar 17 15:30
Zorro gets some of his posts from creationist websites. I would rather encourage him to read the scientific viewpoint starting with Darwin's book in order to have a more balanced view. There are alternatives written in a more modern style if preferred.
By:
Foinavon
When: 07 Mar 17 16:24
Another thing I think you should read about is quotation mining, which is prevalent on creationist websites and is deliberately done in order to give a false impression of the views of respected scientists. I have noticed that you often copy such misinformation on this forum. Have a look at this for example.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/ce/3/part6.html
By:
Foinavon
When: 07 Mar 17 16:25
The last post addressed to Zorrostrikes.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 08 Mar 17 00:34
just 65 questions - nobody addressing them?

just locked on course down the road...

no turning back... straight into the barbecue.
they all bought the lie, we are monkeys..

I'm God's creation. i gave you the warning. I've fulfilled my duty.
I told you what was coming. but you all prefer to go over the cliff.

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In his posthumously-published Observations upon the Prophecies of Daniel, and the Apocalypse of St. John, Sir Isaac Newton expressed his belief that Bible prophecy would not be understood "until the time of the end", and that even then "none of the wicked shall understand". Referring to that as a future time ("the last age, the age of opening these things, be now approaching"), Newton also anticipated "the general preaching of the Gospel be approaching" and "the Gospel must first be preached in all nations before the great tribulation, and end of the world".[42]

Over the years, a large amount of media attention and public interest has circulated regarding largely unknown and unpublished documents, evidently written by Isaac Newton, that indicate he believed the world could end in 2060. While Newton also had many other possible dates (e.g. 2034)

2016 vs 2060

However, between the time he wrote his 2060 prediction (about 1704) until his death in 1727 Newton conversed, both first hand and by correspondence, with other famous theologians of his time. Those contemporaries who knew him during the remaining 23 years of his life appear to be in agreement that Newton, and the "best interpreters" including Jonathan Edwards (founder of Princeton), Robert Fleming, Moses Lowman, Phillip Doddridge, and Bishop Thomas Newton, were eventually "pretty well agreed" that the 1,260-year timeline should be calculated from the year 756 AD.[48]

F.A. Cox also confirmed that this was the view of Newton and others, including himself:

    “The author adopts the hypothesis of Fleming, Sir Isaac Newton, and Lowman, that the 1260 years commenced in A.d. 756; and consequently that the millennium will not begin till the year 2016.”[49]

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Oct 1 2016 to September 23 2017 - the last jubilee year. on the jewish calendar year 5777.
the enemy at the top know it's coming - see above.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 08 Mar 17 00:37



the economist - review of the forthcoming year - their predictions issue. for 2017.
Magazine owned by Rothschild, Cadbury, Schroder, Agnelli.
By:
tobermory
When: 08 Mar 17 03:33
Darwin talks bull,the Apes we see today did not turn into humans.Laugh.how come that happened.?


By:
tobermory
When: 08 Mar 17 03:48
Richard Lenski has been breeding e-coli for thirty years, 67,000 generations, he's still got e-coli. Some are better some are worse. But none have became another bacterium.

67,000 generations. (that's times x 20 years for humans, age you might have offspring) 1.34 million years equivalent time passing for humans.

1.34 million years, and nothing....?



Most species that have existed , of whatever size , would have lasted more than 67,000 generations without going extinct completely or the survivors evolving into something else. eg Tigers have existed exactly as they are now for 1.5 million years , 200,000 generations unchanged .

The creationist view seems to be 'if i don't see a fish evolve into a bird in my lifetime then it's proof evolution is a myth'.

1.34 M years ago the species ancestral to modern humans was H0mo erectus . Though some scientists - notably Milford Wolpoff - argue that was essentially the same species as us anyway ( not a widely accepted view)
By:
guinness2dear
When: 08 Mar 17 04:24
They desperately need a GK & CH..
By:
U.A.
When: 08 Mar 17 09:40
Can I address number 63 then. You state that the odds of 1 amino acid forming are 10 to the power of 260, ten with 260 zeroes running behind it – calculated by Francis Crick himself. As you sometimes tell us to look these things up or google it, i did. I couldn't find any reference of Crick saying this. The closest I got was that he actually said

“If a particular amino acid sequence was selected by chance, how rare an
event would that be?

“This is an easy exercise in combinatorials. Suppose the chain is about
two hundred amino acids long; this is, if anything, rather less than the average
length of proteins of all types. Since we have just twenty possibilities at each
place, the number of possibilities is twenty multiplied by itself some two hundred
times. This is conveniently written 20^200 and is approximately equal to 10^260, that
is, a one followed by 260 zeros!”

But this is very different to what you said, this refers to a chain of 200 amino acids not just 1 amino acid as you stated.

I also read that the simplest theorised self-replicating peptide is 32 amino acids long and would have a 1 in 10^40 chance of forming randomly which then got me thinking. how many opportunities have their been for a self-replicating peptide to form. When you talk of things having a 1 in 10^50 chance of occurring there seems to nothing mentioned of how many opportunities have been available and it seems to be assumed that there is just 1. A 1 in 10^40 chance if very unlikely if you have just 1 attempt but a bit more likely if you have 10^40 attempts. Let me ask you Zorro, if god hadn't intervened how many opportunities would there have been for the simplest form of self-replicating life to occur. 1? 97? 10^66? Wouldn't you agree this is an important factor to consider when referring to how unlikely something is to happen?
By:
DStyle
When: 08 Mar 17 16:18
indeed UA. crick uses it as a preface to argue for evolution.

i've already told zorro threes times about what's wrong with his using that line, and he still keeps posting it. As you point out, implicit in it, is a lack of understanding of even the most rudimentary biochemistry.

I would suggest your time is better spent elsewhere rather than trying to enter into what you might assume to be a reasonable discussion, which is the last thing it will be.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 08 Mar 17 18:52
tick tock - eternity awaits. six months to decide. then the window closes. place your bet. the soul is the stake. Do you want your inheritance or do you want the fire.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 08 Mar 17 19:21
lol. there is no difference you chump.Laugh
By:
Foinavon
When: 08 Mar 17 19:49
It's easy to see how they got you.
tick tock carrot and stick, tick tock pie in the sky.

Why are you so desperate for forgiveness? What did you do to be so frightened?
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 08 Mar 17 20:09
I'm not scared of man or beast.
i'm just smart enough to see the truth.
You believe Satan's lies. You are blinded by God.
you have not been chosen.
I just served the notice of what's coming.
Satan's side does the same.
both sides have given you the warning.
You don't have an excuse when the **** comes now.

it's like a notice sent thru the mail,
Ezekiel says i have to give a warning.

Sir Isaac Newton - arguably the smartest guy to have lived
wrote a million words on the book of Daniel and revelation.
He wasn't doing it out of a curiosity? he knew it was reality.
You've chosen to deny the maker all his rights.
He's not going to reward you for that. So you get the booby
prize of eternal quarantine.

You are hanging onto your sins as if they were a prize.
you don't want a rightful king with wisdom. You are content
with Satan's representatives.
Ted Heath, Castro,Mugabe,Hitler,Mussolini and Sturgeon? All the
fallible BS peddlers. Giving you one liners to cheer at.
six thousand years - the land lease runs out. the land reverts to
the original owner. God will take the land back and toss out the
squatters.
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