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McCanns lose court case
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I've no time for the McCanns but I think some of the theories are just crazy.
The picture being doctored doesn't make sense and I don't think they'd be that daft. |
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I have posted this before on previous threads about this case
A few years ago Crimewatch did another reconstruction and had the McCann's in the studio, the reconstruction showed the morning of Madelaine's disappearance. Madelaine told Kate that she had woken up the previous evening and asked where her and Gerry were. Now I hope that the clear majority of us would not leave our 3 children alone whilst drinking on holiday. If you did and you found out the following morning that one of the children had awoken and she then tells you. Would you go out again that night? Why would you tell anyone about this conversation? Would you allow them to show that on Crimewatch? Maybe I am missing something obvious and I would appreciate others opinions. |
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I think Kate used that line from Madeleine to suggest that she'd be woken up the previous evening by a failed attempt from the alleged intruder.
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Hyatt didn't say the McCanns had killed her, he only said he believed they are lying about not knowing what happened.
They have spent fortunes (not of their own money) on pursuing the abductor story. But there is not a shred of DNA found to support that theory. Then you have the bogus sightings and witness statements that change in detail every 5 minutes. Their behaviour, their mannerisms and everything they say and don't say in interviews just looks all wrong. go back and watch the very first interview they gave, soon after the event. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzKS6HnTKOM Hyatt didn't analyse this one, but I'm sure if he did, he'd have a field day. |
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Why would you assume abduction, when the most likely scenario would be that Maddy had somehow got out of the room and wandered off.
they have always been keen on the theory that reflects least unfavourably on them and blames it on someone else i.e. it was nothing to do with their negligence a third party entered and kidnapped the girl. admit she may have wandered off and fallen in a hole, etc and more questions are asked of their lack of diligence and there's noone else to blame. |
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It's true, dambuster.
The following morning at 10 AM Gerry played some Mixed Doubles, no point letting the court booking go to waste. He partnered with Kay Burley and they took on the pairing of Clement Freud & Robert Murat. I surprised you missed it, Sky News streamed it live. They called it a day at a set apiece as they thought it might not look good if they didn't get on with the search. Masonic handshakes were said to have been exchanged at the net. |
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I think Kate used that line from Madeleine to suggest that she'd be woken up the previous evening by a failed attempt from the alleged intruder.
It was also to bolster their claim that they had actually increased their checks the night the child vanished |
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Steamship - that's a tip of a very large iceberg.
Add in Gordon Brown, Blair, MI5 and many unanswered questions and you can see it stinks. |
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Aye, don't forget the Iluminati. It's like a Dan Brown novel come to life.
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Platini - that's quite a painful watch. Incredibly defensive and seeking to protect themselves.
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"Why would you assume abduction, when the most likely scenario would be that Maddy had somehow got out of the room and wandered off."
My old man would always said "someone's took my bla bla" when the reality would be he'd mislaid it. I'm inclined to say the same a lot of the time. It might be 3/1 that someone has took it and 1/3 that I've mislaid it, but it's an inate reaction borne by my frustration at losing things, magnified by those occasions when someone actually did take it. It comes down to the personality of the individual and whether they are the type to instinctively blame someone else. I certainly don't find it strange. |
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I think that's probably true in respect of inanimate objects but not a child.
I think anyone's natural response would be to go looking for her in the vicinity of the flat after first checking all rooms. |
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I think Kate used that line from Madeleine to suggest that she'd be woken up the previous evening by a failed attempt from the alleged intruder.
This is not the view of most which is to give the impression that Madeleine was still alive the night before. Remember the child crying, the neighbour heard on this night, the argument and Kate sleeping in a separate room ( not the one with the wardrobe), then the bruises on her wrists. There was no sighting of her after this night by any creditable witness. The jogs were most likely so they could talk as they knew they were being bugged. |
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When my eldest 2 boys were 5 and 2 we were shopping in Cambridge with my wife and my wife's sister. My wife was chatting with her sister and I was looking after the boys when the 5 year old just ran off. I ran to catch him, turned round and the 2 year old had disappeared. The next few minutes were horrendous and it certainly crossed my mind that someone had nabbed him. Then a few minutes later a young man appeared with my younger son, asking me was this who you were looking for.
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Why would you refuse to answer police questions and why would you refuse a lie detector test?
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After they were officially declared suspects, they were advised not to answer police questions. Kate didn't but Gerry did.
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Whether they are guilty or innocent they are a couple of very tough cookies who are mentally strong and don't show emotion. They are doctors, which is a tough occupation and are clearly much more intelligent than your average Joe. Just the type of people to be steadfast and defend themselves.
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but if you want to fine your daughter you give up any information you have. Surely you don't thin about self preservation at that moment in time, do you? (especially if innocent)
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find not fine
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I find it interesting that Crystalhunt says on page 1 that he always thought they were innocent but then changed his mind after a good look into it.
I've heard many people say this . I have never heard anyone say 'I thought they were guilty but then looked into it and now i believe they are innocent'. People divide in 2 ways on this.. Those who have devoted some hours of their time reading the actual facts of the case. Those who think Madeleine was abducted. |
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They weren't treated as official suspects until over a year later by which time social media and the press (who were found guilty of libel) was awash with accusations. In those circumstances the strong defend themselves
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tobe he didn't say that. he said he was swayed by hyatt iirc.
and your assumption that people divide two ways is about as weak as the conspiracy theories. |
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Do you mean 'cleared' over a year later ? They were made 'arguidos' 4 months after it happened , and ceased to be about 9 /10 months after that from what i recall
I don't see how 'strong' they are as relevant really. |
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Well i'm just saying that , especially looking at threads on her over the years , it is amazing how ignorant the Mcanns defenders are on key aspects of the case .
'conspiracy theories' what do you mean by that ? Anything that points towards the Mcanns ? Or just some of the outlandish stuff about MI5 etc |
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eg Naydam , one of their main defenders on here...
would make a point in defence of the Mcanns , be told it was factually wrong , ask for a link , be given the link and 2 pages later make the exact same stupid point |
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Whether they are guilty or innocent they are a couple of very tough cookies who are mentally strong and don't show emotion. They are doctors, which is a tough occupation and are clearly much more intelligent than your average Joe. Just the type of people to be steadfast and defend themselves. Not exactly true CB, they've played to the cameras on a few occasions. Always found the behaviour at the end of this interview strange. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP-hfN5APW4 |
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The one thing I have changed my mind over is my level of surprise that if they knew something neither of them confessed. They are unusually tough cookies.
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If they are guilty and neither is blameless then clearly that is why neither would crack .
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Several tabloids criticized Kate for not crying in public, despite her obvious distress; Correio da Manhã in Portugal complained that she had not "shed a single tear", and called her "cynical and strange"
That is highly unusual guilty or innocent and perhaps more unusual if she was innocent. |
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I meant more unusual if she was guilty
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and that her parents had hidden her body for a month, before retrieving her and driving her to an unknown place in a car they had hired over three weeks after the disappearance.
that theory seems completely absurd. They'd have needed to hide her in a freezer, else she's have been so badly decomposed and stunk to high heaven and they would have been constantly in the public eye. I find it almost beyond ridiculous |
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The only plausible explanation of guilt is a culpable accident on the night, they make an almost instant decision to stick her in a bin bag and dump her in the rubbish bins, without any sign of an accident or DNA, or witnesses, or cctv. the bin bag gets taken to a rubbish dump and remains buried there to this day. Meanwhile they go to dinner and pretend everything is fine and hatch this abduction plan. Then they never fess up, tell a friend anything, leave any incriminating evidence in diaries or computers or leave any evidence of sedative drug use.
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very sad case poor girl hope she ok somewhere
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I have read the PJ files and done quite a lot of research on this case. There is a lot of evidence to suggest that Madeleine died in the apartment and there is zero evidence to suggest that Madeleine was abducted.
Unfortunately there is no body and without a body there is no case. Charges could of course be brought without a body, but imagine if the McConns were sent to prison and Maddie turned up. |
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the McConns freudian
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It wasn't a slip
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oh sorry
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np
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