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Although some of Welsh's books are standalone, in the majority of them he builds on earlier characters and refers to past events so it's best to read them in order.
The first book is "Trainspotting". This webpage gives the complete list and published date. https://www.bookseriesinorder.com/irvine-welsh/ |
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Foinavon, thank you, thank you, thank you
![]() I have been looking for something like that link for some time. Nowadays there are a lot of 'continuation' or 'pre' novels, like the film franchises, so it puts me off reading some of them, but now I can just look them up. |
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I had you down as such a cultured chap, Foinavon. ;-)
"Given that it features incest, rape, grave desecration, necrophilia and one character filling a terminally ill man’s saline drip with urine and semen, it is curious that the most shocking thing about Irvine Welsh’s new novel, A Decent Ride, is that it was published at all. Perhaps the whole thing should be read as a symptom rather than a story" |
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You seem to have read them too, Kenny, pot, kettle, black, perhaps?
![]() Welsh set out to shock in all of his books, goes with the territory. There's always Enid Blyton for sensitive souls... |
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Not at all, Foinavon, it was the first review I discovered, hence the speech marks. For some reason I can't do italics.
"That is just one of the questions I couldn’t care less about. Terry’s penis not only gets plenty of use, even helping a young playwright forget about killing herself, but also its own voice, in chapters laid out typographically to look like an ejaculating penis. It is as if Welsh was so bored he decided to carve a willy on his desk". I'll stick to Enid, thanks. lol I thought annie should be warned. Maybe she can't wait to buy it now. :-) |
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I'm sure she will thank you for it, Kenny.
![]() You have to read books to get the various episodes into context, otherwise you might as well ban Agatha Christie for depictions of murder and Watership Down for animal cruelty, not to mention the novels of Richard Stanley Francis. |
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Foinavon
Date Joined: 11 Oct 00 Add contact | Send message 26 Nov 17 12:30 Joined: 11 Oct 00 | Topic/replies: 7,831 | Blogger: Foinavon's blog not to mention the novels of Richard Stanley Francis. Don't think I'll ever know, sounds much too cultured for me |
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I don't think his nickname is acceptable to the forum's automatic censor, Lee.
To be fair, his characters have nothing in common with those depicted by Irvine Welsh. |
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I presume you mean Dick Francis, Foinavon? Quite appropriate with your name
![]() I think I read all of his books when I was a racing fanatic. Although I should say all 'her' books as it is widely thought that his wife wrote them. |
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Yes, I thought "Dick" was usually asterisked out, perhaps it's had a reprieve.
It wouldn't surprise me if his wife had written them although I didn't get past the first one. It may come as a surprise but I don't approve of NH racing and there are some aspects of animal breeding and training which leave me cold. There is not a total dissonance between Kenny and me even if we don't agree on everything. |
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The 47 Ronin story (John Allyn) .... The classic novel of samurai loyalty and revenge !
A must read for todays political elite. |
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You didn't miss much by stopping at the first one Foinavon, have read them all & would say "Forfeit" was his (or her) best.
As to books read this year, I'm reading J P Donleavy's novels again following his recent passing (I have lost count of the number of times I've read "The Ginger Man") |
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I was lucky in that I did not read the first book by dick francis, first. When i came to read it I could not believe how poor it was compared to the others. Although they were very variable, especially as he got older and then his wife died and then he was poorly. I believed that his wife did write them but with obvious input from him. I think when the first book was a relative success then they had help to improve them. They were not classic literature but I read them to understand racing better, possibly.
I am glad to hear your misgivings about national hunt, Foinavon. It is so rare to find a genuinely kind man. |
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Blade Artist by Irvine Welsh
Welsh's most recently published book. He appears to have left the door open for more books in the series so I'm hopeful that he's still writing. Another well written book that maintains the reader's interest. There is plenty of gratuitous violence to outrage Kenny but he might be disappointed at the lack of explicit sex in this one. One can't have everything. |
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I must remember to get some of his books, Foinavon, I would really love to read some good books.
End of Watch - Stephen King It is okay, like so many of his books, but the plot is lacking - maybe because I am not a huge fan of science fiction or horror. I prefer thrillers and detective books. I did wonder whether stephen king has cancer as the 'hero' of the book had terminal cancer and was the same age as him and now his next book out now is written with his son? |
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Try one and see Annie. Be warned there is some strong stuff in there, exaggerated for effect including what might be interpreted as misogyny. This is not a reflection on Welsh but the character types he depicts.
Another favourite author of mine is George MacDonald Fraser. He is famous for the Flashman novels but I reckon his McAuslan books are his best work. I haven't read any Stephen King novels, I know there are lots and some have been made into films but I'm not into spooky horror at all. |
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Thanks, Foinavon, I will try Fraser and Welsh.
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Cry, the Beloved Country - Alan Paton
A so called 'classic'. It is good, but again these classics are so idealistic and the people are much better than in real life. These writers should come on chit chat and see the real men of this world ![]() |
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Sargasso - Edwin Corley a great yarn. Don't let the blurb put you off.
The Jesus Factor - Edwin Corley , a fine read but probably better for the older reader. Proust - Edmund White , a biography that reads well if you an some idea of the characters found in La Recherché. |
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Sargasso - Edwin Corley a great yarn. Don't let the blurb put you off.
The Jesus Factor - Edwin Corley , a fine read but probably better for the older reader. Proust - Edmund White , a biography that reads well if you an some idea of the characters found in La Recherché. |
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Cimarron Rose - James Lee Burke
To the best of my recollection this is the first book I have read by the author and it won't be the last. Well written and a decent plot. The Turn of the Screw - Henry James The first book I have read by him and it will probably be the last as this is supposed to be a 'classic' and one of his best - I don't think so. As ever I am disappointed by 'classics'. I can describe this book by quoting Thomas Hardy who said of Henry James writing ' A ponderously warm manner of saying nothing in infinite sentences'. Another writer who has to write a paragraph when a sentence would do. They should have read Stephen King's 'On Writing'. Camino Island - John Grisham Why he is among the top selling writers currently I do not know. His novels are written to a formula and how boring they are. They are supposed to be 'thrillers' but as in this book he tells you who did it immediately then spins it out. I have given up getting his books from the library and would certainly not pay for one, but I was this book was free so I thought I would give him a go, again ![]() The Wasp Factory - Iain Banks The first I have read by this author and I might try him again, although I think this is supposed to be his best. I liked it, it is well written and different. I was amazed when I had read it that some reviewers when it came out in 1984 had slated it, not for the writing but for the content. They called the content foreign and nasty, unparalleled depravity, a silly sadistic and grisly yarn,disagreeable piece of writing and far worse. I think they should get out more ![]() |
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Another good uncompromising post, Annie. I like it.
![]() I'll check out an Amazon sample of The Wasp Factory, it sounds right up my street. |
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Thanks, Foinavon
![]() The Wasp Factory is not brilliant, but because it is unusual I enjoyed it, even though being a woman I don't like grisly stuff, but the content didn't seem that bad to me. To read the reviews you would think it was the written equivalent of the chain saw massacre. |
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The Dave Robicheaux series by James Lee Burke are pretty damn fine. I think The Neon Rain was the first - must be about 20 now. Oddly enough the next (called Robicheaux, believe it or not) is out in a few days (kindle). Nothing last for ever and everything declines, as does JLB, if only by repetition. Read them all. Must be a race between the author snuffing the character or the author snuffing it. They're very good. 'They' did make a film about 'In the Electric Mist with Confederate Dead' I believe - with Tommy Lee Jones as Robicheaux. It was OK.
Try the CJ Box Joe Pickett series. Interesting progression there also. You're a bit behind the times with Iain Banks. He's very dead. His SF output as Iain M Banks is up with the best of the past 30 years. The Wasp Factory was fairly trivial compared to his subsequent non-sf stuff. Not many happy endings though. |
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Thanks, bodil
![]() I do know Iain Banks is dead! I am glad his SF output is good, as I like him, I think, as a writer so will try them. I have seen CJ Box books so often at the library, I will add him to the list. |
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I listen to quite a few audio books when I am at work. some of the books this year.
Irvin Welsh. The Blade artist, A Decent Ride. Nick Redfern. Bloodline of the Gods. Dan Brown. The Da Vinci Code. Graham Hancock. Fingerprints Of The Gods. David Eagleman. The Brain. The Brain is real eye opener, I never knew that a three year old child had twice as many pathways than a 30 years old, or that decisions that we think is made by the conscious mind are in fact made by our sub conscious mind. Every decision we make is the result of a sub conscious battle. Then there is our memory far from being in high definition they are infact stored in low resolution, and the neurons involved in makeing the conection are reused time and again further lowering the resolution. |
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Pulp: A Novel, Charles Bukowski
This is surreal, I don't know what to make of it. A spoof on detective novels it is interspersed with dry humour in terse one-liners. The chapters are short but you just keep reading, you need to know what's round the corner. Sadly, this was Bukowski's last work, I could read more of these but not to be. I'll read this one again. |
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Perhaps Foinavon, you should start a books 2018 thread?
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I thought of that, Annie but didn't want to lose some of the references on this thread as it slips into oblivion. Perhaps we have to let go...
I have put the Iain Banks novel on my Amazon wish list so I don't forget to buy it when I'm ready. I'm thinking of buying Celine's "Voyage au bout de la Nuit" as the author is mentioned in "Pulp" and appears to have been an important influence on his writing. Have you read it? The only other Bukowski novel I've read is "The Post Office", there are a number of others tempting me too. There are never enough hours in the day even when retired. |
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I have read it Foinavon and although it is worthwhile I did not find it an easy read.
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Celine that is.
If you want a good French book Les Pegriots by Auguste Le Breton is magnificent. A biography of Georges Hainneaux AKA Jo La Terreur. |
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Thanks, dunlaying, I'll give it a go.
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I haven't heard of Les Pegriots, is it recent?
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No , 1973 ,maybe inspired by Puzo's success . But it is a smashing book , Le Breton's best effort. I think it is as good as The Godfather.
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Sounds good, I'll look for it on Amazon.
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Schindler's List - Thomas Keneally
This is a first in my life, the only book where I have broken down crying my eyes out. My eyes are welling with tears now as I write just thinking about it. Man's Inhumanity to man. And I really would object if someone said that should be persons inhumanity to person, because I don't think the majority of women would do what men did in the holocaust. Again I am not blaming men it is the way they are born. Gray Mountain - John Grisham I know I say he is not as good as his reputation but I got this book free again. This is the same as the rest almost, lots of loose ends etc etc. I think he writes as he goes along and if he has not come up with the answers he just leaves the book hanging The good think about it was it describes the strip mining which is ravaging the countryside there.The War of the Worlds - H G Wells Now here is a proper 'classic' book. No waffle, no bad plots etc etc. My only gripe is that I wish he had made the book longer and expanded the theme. |
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I read War of the Worlds at school and thought it was great, a refreshing change to Chaucer where you had to translate every other word.
Don't think I want to read Schindler's List. It's war which is dehumanising, it's the intention of propaganda to achieve that. Sadly, we have seen several repetitions since. We have learned nothing. |
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The Murder on the Orient Express by Agatha Christie
Not that great imho. 6/10. |
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The French Revolution
The French Revolution is so complicated, so I read it about it again. I wish I had read it before I read 'A place of greater Safety' by hilary mantel which is set in the french revolution - good book by the way. A big coincidence was that in the pictures that accompany the book was the picture by David of Marat dead in his bath after being killed by Charlotte Corday, it made an impression on me. So today I was reading the telegraph and lo and behold the same picture that i saw last night was there in the paper! |