good Evening all , any one on here had high Cholesterol ?If so did you get it lower by using a diffe

Diet

What's your current score level?  Is it above 5?

It's genetic from what I gather, mine is 3 and my diet isn't that great although I eat a lot of fruit and veg.

Cholesterol is soluble in alcohol.  I've never had a problem - with cholesterol, that is.

So is your liver....unfortunately.

5 would be a godsend. Mine was high 8's not long ago, and I'm not far above 40. Years of "living" no doubt. Simvastatin is the best of their kind for non side effects, but alongside the diet.

Jan 13, 2017 -- 11:06PM, SlippyBlue wrote:

It's genetic from what I gather, mine is 3 and my diet isn't that great although I eat a lot of fruit and veg.

Slippy - that's a good level for some one your age. 

bodil....have you ever tried abstinence?

Yeah, Leopard - it's a trade off. Tbf, as a fairly well-informed scientist (in spite of my best efforts), there is a lot of uncertainty about the effects of cholesterol. Not sure the latest research has made it out of the medical schools yet. Younger doctors will have different ideas.  Possibly more about genetics than diet? Butter's back in favour, thank god.

7.0just been told this week Doc said if I had got 7.5 I would be taking satins wtf

I'm 50 Kriskin, my Mum and Dad had very low cholesterol levels as well, must be something to do with the genes. I love a full English breakfast, eat what I like really and don't put on any weight, only 12 stone the same weight as I was when I was 18.

you don't know you're born you lot. Get a life and live a little. You only live once.

We're going to live twenty more years than you though

Hell yes, Leopard. Had a year off and several 6 month spells - the liver has amazing powers of regeneration. I keep a sharp eye out for the usual signs - though it can spring a surprise on you. 

High cholesterol may have been an evolutionary advantage in early years, before turning deleterious in later life. For most of the lifespan of our species you bred early and were dead by 30. Hence old-age problems weren't a problem.  It's our fault for living too long.

I'll die tonight happily. Just say the word. In fact you may have just tipped me over. Was gonna leave that chocolate eclair to the morning. See what you've done.

I'm not even over weight. It's the stress of worrying about who's gonna get banned

Missing you already.

Great your change your mind

Don't snuff it before Cheltenham doantwin2easy!

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I'll miss you all more than I can articulate that's why I keep coming back.

Funnily enough, looking forward to the next Cheltenham Festival is a great incentive to keep on keeping on. Though at the end of the 4 days you often wonder why. Hope springs eternal, I guess.

I take Statins all I notice is the flatulence whithin an hour of taking them but if it stops my arteries from clogging any more than they are now
they are a good thing .My diet is virtually no red meat and lots of pulses vegetables and brown bread but we all end up brown bread...

It's probably more about the spring springing than the hope springing. Winters a btch.

Increasingly so - though the days are getting noticeably longer - we're through the worst 7 weeks now.

I started taking vitamin D to counteract the lack of sunlight...... which can give you SAD....feel chipper !

I sit under one of those SAD lights most of the day The Leopard. Works really well but the marijuana plants are suffering badly.

You are not smoking them are you?

I prefer Happy lights

cholesterol is needed to heal veins and arteries.
eat an egg a day.
avoid all clear oils - all.
use butter and coconut oil
eat seeds
buy cider vinegar, use it on salads.
buy lemonjuice - add two capfuls to two litres of water daily.
avoid vegetables with cellulose, unless you cook them thoroughly
avoid fruit with skins - peel them. apples - insoluble fibre.
eat a handful of brazil nuts weekly
eat a handful of almonds weekly
eat raw oats (with yogurt) silica for bones.(horse's coat, nice shine)
avoid slabs of meat. avoid pork.
good hot tea to flush away anything greasy. stops fat congealing.

that is all - message out.

In line with forum etiquette The Leopard, and with the exception of the odd rare insight, much like yourself, most of what I say is for dramatic effect.

but the cholesterol bit is true.

I changed my diet and take prescribed statins. 3.1 is my usual reading but when I make an effort I get it to 2.8.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUrP-g9TYdQ&t=0s

zorro strikes is correct - but it takes a lotttt of discipline  to stick to it for very long ,and once you start eating other unsuitable foods it sort of takes over and is wiped from the memory .

Still not sure what effect drinking alcohol has on c/levels -   the hardest of all things to give up imo

and who the hell can stomach semi skimmed milk ?   

Alcohol is probably the worst Coach. I have slightly high levels that would be wiped out if I stopped drinking (so the doctor tells me but he would say that wouldn't he?)

To anybody who thinks peeling Apples is clever..
http://www.superfoodsrx.com/healthyliving/dont-peel-your-apples-apple-nutrition-facts-suggest-you-may-be-missing-out/

Alcohol does not affect my cholesterol level. It is the rubbish that you have to cut out ; pasties , pies, sausages etc.

Yes,it's fat contained in those things,I had a Mat who died from heart problems due to high cholesterol he used to
cook all his sausages bacon eggs e.t.c. in Lard!

Ovalman - i think Doctors just take this overall stance with alcohol .

doesn't matter if it's heart,lungs or a sore throat - they just seem to have this almost zero tolerance .

would be interesting to see the stats on high drinking countries and see their illness tables .

An avocado every day helped me

dunlaying -it can be rubbish ,but your genetics may be very favourable . Gentics far more indicative than diet .

Life is a lucky dip - better to take a fook it attitude with most things

Vitamin D sunshine window - April 17th Newcastle , April 7th  Ipswich , March 30th Plymouth

it's like a fookin band touring dates guide 

Rock idols Vitamin D   coming to a town near you soon

you SAD fookers

How many fat people walked out of Belsen Coachbuster?

Its hard not to eat processed food its always there cheap and available but its the reason for so many problems.

Only get 5% of the UVB rays that produce the vitamin D in your body if you're sitting behind window.... Looked it up the other day

Compared to being outside in the sunshine.

Leopard - correct  ,and vit d only avaialble at certain times of the day .

if they aren't burning rays  you aint getting the  medicine  - just don't stay out long enough to get burnt . 

you need to get to atleast the Canaries at the moment for any

avoid pork, Zorro ?  that doesn't seem logical. The far east asians eat loads of it and live longer than anyone in the world.

"Its hard not to eat processed food its always there cheap and available but its the reason for so many problems."

This reminds me of a woman I once worked with. She was the biggest tub of lard you ever did see. She used to take crisps and chocolate bars for her lunch at work. She used to moan about her size, saying she didn't have time to eat healthily and it was quick to grab a packet of crisps and a chocoloate bar on leaving the house.

I suggested she took fruit, as I did and it was just as quick and a lot healthier. I would often take an apple, orange and a banana, this would see me through the day.
One day when she was munching on her twix and I was eating my banana she warned me of the high sugar content of a banana.

I was speechless

I think she was looking for a reaction Diva

Possibly

you're lucky she didnt try and eat you md

it's probably your high sugar content due to all the bananas that put her off

Altho she was taking the p1.ss, she accidentally stumbled on a truth. I'd wager there's more sugar in a banana than in a twix.

Quite possibly.

Apparently two slices of wholemeal bread will give you more of a sugar spike than a Snickers bar.

A banana is much better for you than a twix though, so I'll stick with bananas.

Btw, she wasn't taking the P. She was trying to alleviate her guilt at eating junk. She was so annoyed with herself for being overweight.

was it Lisa Riley ?

No. I believe Lisa Riley has lost loads of weight.

Best food for lowering cholesterol is porridge every morning.

cholesterol generally is manufactured in the body, excess amounts are a reaction to inflammation which is often caused by stress, nutritional deficiencies, and unhealthy foods like trans fats, sugar, grains and other simple carbohydrates. drugs like statins are at best masking these stressors which should be fixed, and at worst causing a new set of effects.
Cholesterol in food has little effect on chol levels in blood, and altered seed oils (low chol) are probably much more damaging than butter or eggs (high chol)

You can take plant sterols which are proven to lower cholesterol - either as directly or e.g. in yoghurt.

what Polybot says

Flora Proactive - Light,Buttery, or Olive. Great taste and you can spread it on thick. Contains plant sterols and they claim it actively reduces cholesterol levels. Been using the Light version for about 5 yrs. My latest cholesterol level was 3.0. Also have porridge every day.

avoid all fats except butter and coconut oil. even then use them sparingly. don't lash it on.

the hose pipe theory - your food has to travel through a series of tubing to get to the other end. gross. if you eat meat, chicken, chops, steak. you will be constipated. if you eat just veg, your arris could feel raw? so a happy medium. veg with coldcuts.
try and avoid sausages and chunks o meat.

raw garlic is a good way to flush out those pipes ,but i guarantee it's also the quickest way to lose your friends 

Zorro, what's the danger with pork?  I've been eating a lot more pork and a lot less beef in the last 3 years. I thought it was a smart move health-wise.

Should point out I mean lean minced pork, not sausages (which I've cut back on).

Its funny how the people with the most health problems tend to be the ones most likely to give out advice on what to eat.