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donny osmond When: 11 Jan 17 16:37

great stuff, but you still cant hide that your first post was carp

keep twisting, changing, whatever, it wont change

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CJ70 When: 11 Jan 17 16:38

Jan 11, 2017 -- 4:37PM, donny osmond wrote:

great stuff, but you still cant hide that your first post was carpkeep twisting, changing, whatever, it wont change

By carp? You mean completely correct?

I really don't understand what your gripe is here. Are you saying the Conservative party were not third favourites to win the last election?

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donny osmond When: 11 Jan 17 16:42

no, i dont

i mean carp, which it is

my gripe, that you think you are correct, whilst being wrong

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CJ70 When: 11 Jan 17 16:46

Jan 11, 2017 -- 4:42PM, donny osmond wrote:

no, i donti mean carp, which it ismy gripe, that you think you are correct, whilst being wrong

Well I know I'm correct as it's a market I was paying heavy attention to.

I'm not sure if you are just confused here or if there's some other issue?

If you could enlighten me as to why you are throwing fish about I'd be most appreciative.

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donny osmond When: 11 Jan 17 16:50

no you have already stated i was correct

i just find you odd trying to crawl out of being wrong

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CJ70 When: 11 Jan 17 16:55

Jan 11, 2017 -- 4:50PM, donny osmond wrote:

no you have already stated i was correcti just find you odd trying to crawl out of being wrong

I've done nothing of the sort, quite bizarre behaviour.

Anyway as you just seem to be flailing like a carp for no apparent reason.

https://postimg.org/image/70bl3xqdr/

Here's the graph from Betfair showing Con as third favourites until quite late on with NOM almost certainly the favourite.

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donny osmond When: 11 Jan 17 16:58

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people dont all vote for candidate by name !

thats why the party name is also on ballot paper

people did know cameron would not serve full term, ....nobody
thought he would be gone as soon as he was
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Jan 10, 2017 -- 5:58PM, donny osmond wrote:

people dont all vote for candidate by name !thats why the party name is also on ballot paper people did know cameron would not serve full term, ....nobodythought he would be gone as soon as he was

You are correct, there are a number of people who will vote for a certain party no matter who the candidate is. Those people are generally ignorant of politics and there's not much you can do to engage them. Luckily 'My grandfather voted X so I'll vote X types' seem to be on the wane.

I think 2016 was the third favourite in the betting after 2018 and 2017. I don't have the figures at hand so if someone wants to correct me on that feel free.
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CJ70 When: 11 Jan 17 17:06

My word.. There'll be some marks on that barrel by the time you've finished.

In that instance, you are correct only in the sense that some people will blindly vote for an individual of a party. They are still voting for an individual. The statement you were responding to of

When there is a General Election the electorate vote for an individual to represent their constituency at Parliament. Whether that person is party affiliated or not. You are essentially voting for the best candidate to represent your interests and those of your neighbours.

is correct.

All clear?

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donny osmond When: 11 Jan 17 17:11

keep on twisting

you ve done nothing of the sort, its only in that sense

whatever next, lack of punctuation ?

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CJ70 When: 11 Jan 17 17:26

Jan 11, 2017 -- 5:11PM, donny osmond wrote:

keep on twistingyou ve done nothing of the sort, its only in that sensewhatever next, lack of punctuation ?

Very hard to twist on something that is demonstrably correct.

Somewhere Martin Bell is watching.

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donny osmond When: 11 Jan 17 17:31

you seem to manage easily enough when you are wrong ,and have already admitted it ....except,
then seemed to forget that you had

martin bell , colin bell, dinga bell,

more like colin ball

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CJ70 When: 11 Jan 17 17:49

Jan 11, 2017 -- 5:31PM, donny osmond wrote:

you seem to manage easily enough when you are wrong ,and have already admitted it ....except, then seemed to forget that you hadmartin bell , colin bell, dinga bell, more like colin ball

I admitted nothing of the sort. I suggest re-reading.

I honestly didn't think anyone would be trying to back up Facts mistaken thinking.

Just in case you are unclear, I'll repeat my original quote that you seem to have taken issue with..

When there is a General Election the electorate vote for an individual to represent their constituency at Parliament. Whether that person is party affiliated or not. You are essentially voting for the best candidate to represent your interests and those of your neighbours.

That is demonstrably correct whether you want it to be so or not.

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donny osmond When: 11 Jan 17 19:31

lol

just keep twisting

it must be wonderful to be wrong

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CJ70 When: 12 Jan 17 13:16

Jan 11, 2017 -- 7:31PM, donny osmond wrote:

loljust keep twistingit must be wonderful to be wrong

As previously said how can I be wrong and twisting on something that is demonstrably true.

Although I'm not sure why you are wilfully misreading my comment. Do you actually believe that in UK GE's that the votes are for party and not individuals?

I suspect you are just on a wind up to try and save Facts.

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donny osmond When: 12 Jan 17 13:17

im not

you are twisting all over the place as you are wrong

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CJ70 When: 12 Jan 17 13:56

Jan 12, 2017 -- 1:17PM, donny osmond wrote:

im notyou are twisting all over the place as you are wrong

You aren't on a wind up?

So you do believe that votes in UK elections* are for a party? I suggest you've been watching to much US election coverage my friend.

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donny osmond When: 12 Jan 17 14:07

another odd statement to try to hide you being wrong

but you are still wrong

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CJ70 When: 12 Jan 17 14:09

Jan 12, 2017 -- 2:07PM, donny osmond wrote:

another odd statement to try to hide you being wrongbut you are still wrong

I asked you a question. I understand answering it will mean either you are looking very silly or proving that you are on a wind up.

Still have a go.

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donny osmond When: 12 Jan 17 14:13

hiding a question in with another silly personal attack is unlikely to
obtain an answer, oh but you know that

thats why you add these silly little insults

but you are still wrong

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ZenMaster When: 12 Jan 17 14:16

Conservatives were actually third favourites last election!

This statement is correct donny.
What seems to be the problem with it?

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donny osmond When: 12 Jan 17 14:18

not really the point though zen

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ZenMaster When: 12 Jan 17 14:19

Labour majoity (fav)
No overall majority (second fav)
Con majority ( third favourites )

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donny osmond When: 12 Jan 17 14:23

still not the point, even if it is correct

it was thrown in as an aside

the original point before that was thrown in remains wrong

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ZenMaster When: 12 Jan 17 14:38

Ok, well i have no idea what price Cameron was to vacate in 2016, also not sure how many would vote any other way if they could hold a crystal ball view on it.

Voters should be voting on their constituency rep but a large percentage won't know the name of that rep unless they walk past a poster on a telegraph pole.

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donny osmond When: 12 Jan 17 14:44

yeah

next election i will look more closely at all these 999/1 shots in safe
seats as people will be voting for best candidate not the party

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ZenMaster When: 12 Jan 17 14:53

Very droll donny.

You are voting to put your local rep in the HoC to raise issues for your constituency.

Even Farage voted Green once, because he thought his Green rep was the best person to represent his constituency.

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donny osmond When: 12 Jan 17 14:58

i cant tell folk how to vote

i do take notice though

it would be great if we all elected on merit of candidate

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lfc1971 When: 12 Jan 17 15:57

I don't like the idea of voting for a certain candidate because of anything and certainly not talent.
you have to beware of the great talent, great talents can become like monsters and you should never help their advancement.

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lfc1971 When: 12 Jan 17 15:59

history shows us this

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lfc1971 When: 12 Jan 17 16:02

a great talent is liable to say, as you know I am a great talent and as such I am perfectly entitled to more of your money

that's how these great talents operate

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lfc1971 When: 12 Jan 17 16:05

the politicians and the bankers and economists were all great talents and deserved to be paid accordingly

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lfc1971 When: 12 Jan 17 16:08

who should you vote for then ?
I don't know.

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lfc1971 When: 12 Jan 17 16:19

now if a politician was to say " I am not a great talent but I would hold a referendum and if the British people vote to leave the eu that is what we will do"
then that's who I would vote for, even if he is not a great talent

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lfc1971 When: 12 Jan 17 16:22

I don't much care about his not being a great talent, great talents seem to think they have to make these things difficult

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CJ70 When: 12 Jan 17 17:09

Jan 12, 2017 -- 2:13PM, donny osmond wrote:

hiding a question in with another silly personal attack is unlikely to obtain an answer, oh but you know thatthats why you add these silly little insultsbut you are still wrong

I'm unlikely to get an answer because it is physically impossible for you to answer without looking a plum.

It's the equivalent of me stating tomorrow is the 13th of January and you shouting your wrong, you are twisting.

You are either on a wind up or you simply are unaware of the electoral system in this country. Going by what you've posted in response to ZenMaster it seems to be the latter.

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donny osmond When: 12 Jan 17 17:36

lol

we can agree tomorrows date

but you are still wrong

you can keep aying you are right but hey ho....