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By:
Breedingmad
When: 08 Jan 17 23:04
Yes I was Born in Leeds.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 08 Jan 17 23:07
How many generations ?
By:
saddo
When: 08 Jan 17 23:08
He lost the vote donny, but refuses to accept the result, that's what I meant. The more realistic remainers will hopefully-if grudgingly- support the Gov in negotiations and beyond.
By:
Breedingmad
When: 08 Jan 17 23:14
There was a Lord with my surname so it goes back a long way
By:
donny osmond
When: 08 Jan 17 23:14
why grudgingly ?


i lost the vote, i see the pitfalls, i would vote to stay if given a second chance


i have no confidence in may who i reckon has the leadership on sufference and
only if she does as they tell her


having said all that theres nothing to stop us making it work



60% of voters lost the last election, .....funny old world innit, nobody
says they cant have another bash next time
By:
donny osmond
When: 08 Jan 17 23:16
too many folk have a reality show mentality where eviction means eviction( usually Laugh)
By:
Breedingmad
When: 08 Jan 17 23:20
Earliest is 1379 a  Yorkshire Village
By:
saddo
When: 08 Jan 17 23:24
Is your name Sutch?
By:
Breedingmad
When: 08 Jan 17 23:25
No
By:
Breedingmad
When: 08 Jan 17 23:26
What about your tree Saddo..
By:
saddo
When: 08 Jan 17 23:44
I'm more of a bush man. I am thinking of backing a Scottish Lord tomorrow.
By:
Burt06
When: 10 Jan 17 13:09
so to cut a long story short breedingmad has no answers and has scarpered.


the costs of EUSSR.  he's got nada

greece fooked. he's got nada

50% youth unemployment. he's got nada

rampant corruption. he's got nada

unelected drunk presidents.  he's got nada

ignoring democratic votes across the EUSSR. he's got nada


poor little remainiacSad
By:
Breedingmad
When: 10 Jan 17 13:48
There is no organization called the E.U.S.S.R so I will not answer any of your questions till you
retract your  stupid use of language.
By:
Burt06
When: 10 Jan 17 14:29
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughGrin
By:
Facts
When: 10 Jan 17 15:16

Burt06    08 Jan 17 19:29 
the UK is a parliamentary democracy - we do not vote a specific individual, the party that has a majority forms the government and the leader of that party is the PM.



When there is a GE, the electorate vote for a Party they want to be in power. When they place their vote, it is with the understanding that the Party they are voting has a Leader at the time, who over the preceding months /years has persuaded them he ( and his party ) could be the next PM and his Party the government in power.
When the unsuspecting people voted for the Tories they did it on the basis that Cameron would be the PM.
If Mayhem had been the leader ,do you think the Tories would have still won.
Cameron threw  his toys out of his pram, and walked away from the biggest **** up ( I.e losing referendum) )!and also walked away as being one of the worst PM this country has ever had.
Mayhem is worse than Thatcher - so although unelected - could still leave with a prize when she's booted out.
By:
ebulGery
When: 10 Jan 17 15:24
Well I prefer Theresa May to Cameron....which taking into account my misogyny shows how bad Cameron was.

She has said she will not just govern for people who vote for the Tory Party, but everybody.

She got the job because it was thought she would take us safely out the EU, in front of other candidates.

We shall see.
By:
ebulGery
When: 10 Jan 17 15:27
My opinion was people voted for the Tory party at the last election, not necessarily Cameron.
By:
Facts
When: 10 Jan 17 15:29
I expect that post 15.28  will be deleted soon !
By:
ebulGery
When: 10 Jan 17 15:41
I was hoping she was telling the truth...oh wellSad
By:
Burt06
When: 10 Jan 17 15:49
If Mayhem had been the leader ,do you think the Tories would have still won.

against red ed? you betcha.

and with corbyn as leader i think katie hopkins could win if she were tory leader

btw facts, could you pop over to politics and help out biscuitbrain and the mad breeder on the couple of EUSSR threads. they have tokk 1 hell of a beating, downed tools and ran off.

nobody likes a walkoverSad
By:
Facts
When: 10 Jan 17 15:56
Sorry, I pledged some time ago to never post on the Politics Forum again.
I may have posted once since, but I think I got away with it Cool
By:
anxious
When: 10 Jan 17 16:14
Katie Hopkins dear me scraping the barrel there aren't we , Burt I think you have been reading the Daily Fail and the Murdoch drivel to much
By:
Burt06
When: 10 Jan 17 17:10
i don't read newspapers.

but i know she is unpopular and seen as really far right and a bit nasty. the point i was making is that corbyn is so bad even she would win against him.

maybe you could help the plonkers on politics over this EUSSR - they are struggling worse than jeremySad
By:
donny osmond
When: 10 Jan 17 17:24
that would be some delight for farron
By:
anxious
When: 10 Jan 17 17:25
Burt some of the things Jeremy has said about sky high pay and greed many people will agree with his general sentiments
By:
CJ70
When: 10 Jan 17 17:53

Jan 10, 2017 -- 3:16PM, Facts wrote:


Burt06    08 Jan 17 19:29  the UK is a parliamentary democracy - we do not vote a specific individual, the party that has a majority forms the government and the leader of that party is the PM.When there is a GE, the electorate vote for a Party they want to be in power. When they place their vote, it is with the understanding that the Party they are voting has a Leader at the time, who over the preceding months /years has persuaded them he ( and his party ) could be the next PM and his Party the government in power.When the unsuspecting people voted for the Tories they did it on the basis that Cameron would be the PM.If Mayhem had been the leader ,do you think the Tories would have still won.Cameron threw  his toys out of his pram, and walked away from the biggest **** up ( I.e losing referendum) )!and also walked away as being one of the worst PM this country has ever had.Mayhem is worse than Thatcher - so although unelected - could still leave with a prize when she's booted out.


This is completely wrong.


When there is a GE, the electorate vote for a Party they want to be in power. When they place their vote, it is with the understanding that the Party they are voting has a Leader at the time, who over the preceding months /years has persuaded them he ( and his party ) could be the next PM and his Party the government in power.

When there is a General Election the electorate vote for an individual to represent their constituency at Parliament. Whether that person is party affiliated or not. You are essentially voting for the best candidate to represent your interests and those of your neighbours.

When the unsuspecting people voted for the Tories they did it on the basis that Cameron would be the PM.

This is false. AT the GE it was well known that we'd have a new PM in this Parliament.

If Mayhem had been the leader ,do you think the Tories would have still won.

Mayhem? Did you make that up all by yourself?

Cameron threw  his toys out of his pram, and walked away from the biggest **** up ( I.e losing referendum) )!and also walked away as being one of the worst PM this country has ever had.

Your lack of knowledge on this subject is quite low. The other parties used Cameron not serving a full term as a stick to beat the Conservative's with during the campaign. It was well known to anyone with an interest that Cameron would not see out this Parliament as PM.

Mayhem is worse than Thatcher - so although unelected - could still leave with a prize when she's booted out.

On what basis do you consider her to be elected?

By:
CJ70
When: 10 Jan 17 17:55

Jan 10, 2017 -- 5:25PM, anxious wrote:


Burt some of the things Jeremy has said about sky high pay and greed many people will agree with his general sentiments


I doubt it. He's already changed his mind.

By:
donny osmond
When: 10 Jan 17 17:58
people dont all vote for candidate by name !

thats why the party name is also on ballot paper



people did know cameron would not serve full term, ....nobody
thought he would be gone as soon as he was
By:
CJ70
When: 10 Jan 17 18:08

Jan 10, 2017 -- 5:58PM, donny osmond wrote:


people dont all vote for candidate by name !thats why the party name is also on ballot paper people did know cameron would not serve full term, ....nobodythought he would be gone as soon as he was


You are correct, there are a number of people who will vote for a certain party no matter who the candidate is. Those people are generally ignorant of politics and there's not much you can do to engage them. Luckily 'My grandfather voted X so I'll vote X types' seem to be on the wane.

I think 2016 was the third favourite in the betting after 2018 and 2017. I don't have the figures at hand so if someone wants to correct me on that feel free.

By:
donny osmond
When: 10 Jan 17 18:59
i think libs were third favourites at last election too
By:
bongo
When: 10 Jan 17 21:04
"the customs union means the EUSSR negotiates as a single entity so no individual member can negotiate its own deal with another country. freedom of movement comes hand in hand with the market and they have already said they will not move on that."

Territories that are out of the Customs Union but in the Single Market can negotiate their own trade deals e.g. Norway, Iceland

Countries that are in the Single Market but not in the EU can make policies that help manage/reduce incentives for immigration e.g. the 2 child rule on new child tax credit claims from April 2017, not bunging £12bn a year in Aid to foreign countries that results in worse government there and thus people wanting to leave those places , and not bunging the £5bn a year in farm/convergence subsidies which serve as job-shedding programmes in poorer EU countries. For a remaining net contribution the UK could say no immigration for convicted criminals in the last 5 years, or left a custodial in the last 2 years, thus mirroring the policy for non-EU criminals. We could even spend more on deportations.

All of those won't happen but there's a whole range of policies to reduce immigration while staying in the Single Market, from within the EU and from without.
By:
Facts
When: 11 Jan 17 09:50
ebulGery    10 Jan 17 15:27
My opinion was people voted for the Tory party at the last election, not necessarily Cameron.


Facts    10 Jan 17 15:29 

I expect that post 15.28  will be deleted soon !




1.01 !!!! Unbelievable - and pathetic.
By:
CJ70
When: 11 Jan 17 15:03

Jan 10, 2017 -- 6:59PM, donny osmond wrote:


i think libs were third favourites at last election too


Conservatives were actually third favourites last election!

By:
Breedingmad
When: 11 Jan 17 15:04
E.U.S.S.R doesn't exist
By:
mafeking
When: 11 Jan 17 15:06
doubt there were many people who voted tory with much enthusiasm for cameron at the last election. it was mainly an anti miliband vote and even worse the prospect of him being propped up by the SNP

cameron was lucky to come up against 2 such hapless labour leaders
By:
Breedingmad
When: 11 Jan 17 15:19
Totally agree
By:
donny osmond
When: 11 Jan 17 15:43
tories third favourites to win most seats , lol

keep making it up
By:
CJ70
When: 11 Jan 17 15:53

Jan 11, 2017 -- 3:43PM, donny osmond wrote:


tories third favourites to win most seats , lolkeep making it up


Well clearly the Conservatives weren't third favourites to win most seats.. They were however third favourites for the last election as I said.

By:
donny osmond
When: 11 Jan 17 15:56
ah ok

carry on making up stuff you can agree with
By:
CJ70
When: 11 Jan 17 16:25

Jan 11, 2017 -- 3:56PM, donny osmond wrote:


ah okcarry on making up stuff you can agree with


I'm not sure you can make up facts.

That's equally true if you capitalize it.

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