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https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jan/06/jamie-oliver-close-restaurants-brexit-jamies-italian-barbecoa

Are you not terribly ashamed that you voted to leave the wonderful Common Market.  Now look what has happened.
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Report xmoneyx January 6, 2017 4:08 PM GMT
Jamie said vote UKIPConfused
Report DStyle January 6, 2017 4:30 PM GMT
Jamie Oliver didn't say this, the CEO of his restaurant group did.

Which was pretty f*cking low anyway.

He went on

"Blagden said a combination of high costs on ingredients, staff training and lower footfall had forced the restaurant closures."

Which translates to "not enough people were prepared to pay £14 for a unspectacular burger + fries outside of the more affluent metropolitan areas.
Report xmoneyx January 6, 2017 4:52 PM GMT
someone on twitter has made serious allegations

true or they might need a good lawyer
Report xmoneyx January 6, 2017 4:55 PM GMT
xmaseveevil on twitter
Report Just Checking January 6, 2017 5:09 PM GMT
Getting very fed up with companies who aren't doing so well saying Brexit is to blame.
Yesterday it was Next (the BBC of course loved that), yet strangely John Lewis was doing better. How does that work?
Did Brexit not affect them in the same way? Why surely it must have. The effect is the same, the better companies will survive.

Today it's oliver. Are other restaurants not affected by Brexit.
For example the one closing in Scotland is in Aberdeen, which is in the middle of a downturn due to the oil price collapse.
Was brexit to blame for that? It's most proabably been struggling for ages and brexit is nothing to do with it.

I've eaten in a Jamie Oliver restaurant a few times and I thought it was overpriced for small portions and if I remember correctly there was no draught beer just overpriced little bottles. Total disappointment. I wouldn't chose to go there myself.
Report Thin and Crispy January 6, 2017 5:21 PM GMT
Brexit... its the "Get out of Jail Free" card for any poorly run business.
Report xmoneyx January 6, 2017 5:24 PM GMT
my poor picks today caused by brexit
Report ZenMaster January 6, 2017 5:38 PM GMT
Brand 'Jamie Oliver' is past it's sell by date in the UK.

He knows it.  Italian produce has increased but if he was THAT good his brand would be able to shoulder it.
Report The Leopard January 6, 2017 5:43 PM GMT
Saw that xmoneyx.....Shocked
Report The Leopard January 6, 2017 5:44 PM GMT

Jan 6, 2017 -- 4:55PM, xmoneyx wrote:


xmaseveevil on twitter


^ This

Report scandanavian_haven January 6, 2017 5:44 PM GMT
he's created so many new jobs and paid so much tax to the country whilst improving diets for school kids and relentless campaigning against sugar, yet he still gets so much hate, some people
Report ZenMaster January 6, 2017 5:46 PM GMT
Totally agree scandy , he has done very well for himself.
Report Jack Hacksaw January 6, 2017 5:46 PM GMT
Cost of ingredients. Jesus.  Food cost must come in at around 15%.
Report Just Checking January 6, 2017 5:56 PM GMT
I don't "hate" him but I think his restaurants are overpriced and not very good and are trading entirely on his fame.
But what I'm annoyed at is DISHONESTY and taking us for MUGS.

As Jack indicates, what % of his costs are food ingredients? I'm guessing not that much, his portions are small but he likes plush expensive locations.

And what costs are affected by Brexit? The pound dropped against the dollar but hasn't changed that much against the Euro (presuming he's buying some ingredients from say italy). Pound - Euro is approx what it was 2013-2014, that's all.

So how is Brexit to blame? For making a percentage of a percentage of his costs revert to the same as they were 2 years ago?
His competitors will have the same. No, we don't like liars, and this bandwagon of blaming everything on Brexit.

At least he's not blaming Trump....
Report Just Checking January 6, 2017 6:02 PM GMT
In fact I just looked at the commodity price of Wheat which is the main ingredient of pasta dishes and thus I presume Jamie Oliver dishes.
It keeps coming down. $425 today, 500 2016, 575 2015, 750 in 2014, 900 mid 2013.
http://www.nasdaq.com/markets/wheat.aspx?timeframe=5y

It's like an inverse Wheatxit, he should be raking it in. Brexit my ars*.
Report donny osmond January 6, 2017 6:07 PM GMT
pound is down 15% v euro since referendum

but i agree its just him falling from fashion

better off buying at waitrose or marks and spencer and eating at home




he doesnt do himself any favours alienating the alt right, they can go
for a decent british curry and get better service
Report Just Checking January 6, 2017 6:16 PM GMT
But it's just back to what is was 2-3 years ago, and the traded price of his principle ingredient, wheat, has basically halved since 2013.
I'm pretty sure his little lukewarm dishes are from what I remember are mostly italian style pasta.

He probably bulk buys it from LIDL.
Report ZenMaster January 6, 2017 6:16 PM GMT
Wise words donny, i can only imagine those with a few spare squid would accept a hollow belly whilst waltzing home.

I would image they are oblivious to the plight of the Brexiteers.
Report ZenMaster January 6, 2017 6:19 PM GMT
Interesting post JC

It seems that JO is not thinking outside the box on this one.
Report donny osmond January 6, 2017 6:22 PM GMT
he has a restaurant in newcastle but why would you go when
newcastle already has so many good italian restaurants
and jamie doesnt even cook the food,..... that might be an
attraction

charity shops are full of his books, .....
Report Just Checking January 6, 2017 6:25 PM GMT
I love italian food, yes, go to a good independent, it'll probably be cheaper and better. It's all in the name.
But then, we live in a world where people will pay £1000s for the name stuck on a handbag...
Report Breedingmad January 6, 2017 6:29 PM GMT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrjHz5hrupA
Report maleuk01. January 6, 2017 6:39 PM GMT
Maybe if he didn't try to charge £20 for a £10 meal he may get more business.

Sticks his name to the restaurant and thinks he can double the prices of the food.
Report Platini January 6, 2017 6:58 PM GMT
Is that David Ike's twitter account? Laugh
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! January 6, 2017 8:56 PM GMT
Cant stand the competiton

Caroluchis is a better BET

Wink
Report maleuk01. January 6, 2017 9:05 PM GMT
Brexit makes a great scapegoat for anyone with a struggling business.

"Cannot possibly be my fault, it must be Brexit"
Report mad mad moon January 6, 2017 9:09 PM GMT
I was at Lords when he was selling a steak sandwich  for £20. He sold 5. He seems to think his name alone will
entice people to pay double the going rate.
Report Just Checking January 6, 2017 9:10 PM GMT
It's a fantastic catch all excuse isn't it Laugh

"Sorry love, this has never happened before.
You could normally swing a small monkey off the thing when I'm aroused but .. it's just not going to happen tonight.
No! It's not that I can't get it up, it's just .. this whole brexit thing, y'know?"
Report treble January 6, 2017 9:14 PM GMT
I agree with Tim Martin of Wetherspoons?

This has nothing to do with Brexit, it's because his food is no better than ours but four times the price!
Report xmoneyx January 6, 2017 9:22 PM GMT
epic chocolate brownie £5.75

a scoop of icecream an walnuts Whoops





https://www.jamieoliver.com/italian/restaurants/edinburgh/menu/
Report casemoney January 6, 2017 9:39 PM GMT
Did he not have restaurants go Tits up in Oz ?
Report treble January 6, 2017 9:40 PM GMT
The Lasagne shocked me. A bit of stwed oxtail, pasta and cheese. £14 farkin quid! Id rather have chicken madras, pilau rice, bombay potato, keema nan and poppadums for that thank you very much.
Report casemoney January 6, 2017 9:46 PM GMT
Spot on Treb ,Decent indian would pish all over that Jank Happy
Report Just Checking January 6, 2017 9:48 PM GMT
Another thing to watch out for is a fair sized tip is AFAIK included in the bill which isn't the usual in my experience, so you might accidentally tip double. I'm not sure if it's always added, so check the bill in case. Not saying not to tip, just be aware of it. Last time I went to one the best part was the waiter was really good.
Report xmoneyx January 6, 2017 9:51 PM GMT
his meals are 5 x true cost
Report saddo January 6, 2017 9:54 PM GMT
"Juicy lamb chops cooked under a brick" for a score sounds fair enough, bricks are getting expensive.
Report treetop January 6, 2017 10:10 PM GMT
Oliver is not being honest to my mind,many businesses are going to find it harder this year,particularly catering as they will have to increase the minimum wage AND contribute to workplace pensions for all their staff. It is sad they should try to pin that on brexit instead of being honest.
Report saddo January 6, 2017 10:15 PM GMT
I don't mind him, I assume his heart is in the tv stuff, and some business man runs the rest. You can't do everything yerself.
Report ebulGery January 6, 2017 10:20 PM GMT
It is amazing the number of celebrity chefs who get themselves in trouble when they try opening their

own restaurants or restaurant chains.

Also if I went to a Jamie Olivier restaurant, I would expect him to be there.

I agree with treetop as well.
Report Just Checking January 6, 2017 10:21 PM GMT
I've watched a few of the Kitchen Nightmares in the US series.
I'd be more interetested in eating in a Ramsay restaurant to see if his food is as good as his arrogance would suggest it must be :)
Probably a bit more expensive than even oliver though!
Report xmoneyx January 6, 2017 10:22 PM GMT
I would expect him to be there.


as a kitchen porter
Report saddo January 6, 2017 10:22 PM GMT
I would not expect him to be there and would not go, as I assume you'll be paying for the brand.
Report jollyswagman January 6, 2017 10:28 PM GMT
gery, jamie is reportedly worth sveral hundred million so he aint in no trouble what so ever.

it always amazed me that someone who reached the dizzy heights of sous chef managed to turn themself into a worlwide brand worth so much but that's the world we live in (people are thick innit). he seems like an ideal friend for one david beckham.
Report Capt__F January 6, 2017 11:22 PM GMT
ramsey got that gig
Report BARROWBOY January 7, 2017 1:22 PM GMT
Aldo Zilli has told the story,poor service coupled with a failure to buy authentic produce,olivers italian restaurants werent a very italian experience.
Report BARROWBOY January 7, 2017 1:24 PM GMT
my sandown p/pot just gone down,damned brexit.
Report gresty241 January 7, 2017 1:46 PM GMT
By blaming the closure of 6 of his canteens on Brexit he's alienating 17.5 million food eaters who will now go elsewhere to trough, which will mean he'll probably be shutting another 6 of his canteens a year from now of which he can rightly so blame on Brexit
Report treetop January 7, 2017 3:06 PM GMT
Last two posts get it !
Report Breedingmad January 7, 2017 3:14 PM GMT
He'll probably have to close all of them after we leave the E,U.
Report donny osmond January 7, 2017 3:22 PM GMT
maybe he could hire nigel to do an advert, he seems open to new challenges
Report brockville January 7, 2017 6:48 PM GMT
I have it on good authority it has nothing to do with brexit.

It wath purely down to:

a) Hith refuthal to thell Hilal and b) hith lithp.
Report Breedingmad January 7, 2017 6:51 PM GMT
Your takin the pith
Report brockville January 7, 2017 6:56 PM GMT
thut it
Report Just Checking January 7, 2017 7:04 PM GMT
He's probably pissed off a % of the population who voted FOR brexit with this Laugh.
I'm certainly even less likely to want to go to one again, or if my arm is twisted ... get a bottle of water and grab a greggs on the way :)
Report gilbzy January 7, 2017 8:13 PM GMT
We joined up to his free gold card thing to get a free bottle of prosecco on your birthday if you spend more than £30 on food . Was OK but wouldn't contemplate it without the free booze..
Report Back High Lay Low January 8, 2017 12:24 AM GMT
He thinks food price increases are great when it makes comforting treats more expensive for the poor.
Report the bloob January 8, 2017 10:00 PM GMT
I have to admit I'm pleased to see his restaurants failing, if and independent restaurant charged those prices then they wouldn't last 6 months. Just because it's Jamie Oliver some people will go and be happy to pay those prices and convince themselves that the food is good, just because it's Jamie freekin' Oliver. It's not like it's actually him in the kitchen cooking it!

I've never been to any of his restaurants and would never pay to do so, there is one in my town and all those I know that have been have been disappointed with small portions, overpriced, bland food

the standard costing for restaurants is 3 times the cost of the ingredients plus VAT, if his chain are doing 5 times cost then that says it all, total rip-off

and the Brexit reasoning is rubbish, the Euro was stronger than it is now 4/5 years ago
Report saddo January 8, 2017 10:24 PM GMT
His place in Leeds is as many describe above bm, overpriced ordinary food, made to sound less ordinary on the menu. My guess is he's never visited em all apart from opening nights.
Report the bloob January 8, 2017 10:34 PM GMT
breedingmad I'm not a fan of businesses going bust but what we need is properly run businesses and fairly priced offerings for the public, and not someone cashing in on their name. His loss is someone else's gain, and I'm sure they are much more deserving
Report saddo January 8, 2017 10:36 PM GMT
There aren't enough food snobs outside London to support these celebrity chains.
Report Breedingmad January 8, 2017 11:32 PM GMT
If they are still running the price is right
Report saddo January 8, 2017 11:35 PM GMT
The fans will rush in at the start for sure, but you can't kid people into paying a cheffy premium for ever. Plenty of better-also worse- vfm in Leeds.
Report stewarty b January 8, 2017 11:45 PM GMT
Three really good Italian restuarants in Aberdeen. By all accounts Olivers was not up to standard according to people I have spoken to.

Overpriced and overrated by general consensus.

Sad really when Aberdeen being the oil capital of Europe can't produce a decent restuarant. Mind you we don't even have a Waitrose..
Report saddo January 8, 2017 11:48 PM GMT
It might be brexit, stewarty. Almost pmsl when porp said a local Indian restaurant was suffering because they couldn't import a chef.
Report Capt__F January 8, 2017 11:49 PM GMT
His main problem was he ain't no Italian more Turdian
Report donny osmond January 8, 2017 11:51 PM GMT
i think that was our local bangladeshi saddo ! not porcs indian

they have a new chef now, and sombody else is light a top chef !
Report saddo January 8, 2017 11:52 PM GMT
My apolgies to porp, I'm sure there are more than enough to go round tbf.
Report pan07 January 9, 2017 4:46 AM GMT
move on u **** ffs
Report saddo January 9, 2017 10:44 AM GMT
Is that you seething, porp?  04.46  Laugh
Report Hound-Dog-2 January 9, 2017 11:16 AM GMT
Jamie trying to blame Brexit, rubbish ! Been to 2 of his restaurants, Bristol & Exeter (Exeter is one of the 6 he is closing, not been open very long !)  Food was nice but not great, small portions and very expensive, after going to the Bristol one we thought we might try the new one in Exeter which might be better, it was worse ! Loud atmosphere, slow service, several things on the menu not available, all in all not a good experience,  and if I was paying that sort of money again several other places I'd rather go to. And he blames Brexit....!!!!
Report Breedingmad January 9, 2017 1:24 PM GMT
There's a grass on this thread
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