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https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jan/06/jamie-oliver-close-restaurants-brexit-jamies-italian-barbecoa

Are you not terribly ashamed that you voted to leave the wonderful Common Market.  Now look what has happened.

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By:
xmoneyx
When: 06 Jan 17 16:08
Jamie said vote UKIPConfused
By:
DStyle
When: 06 Jan 17 16:30
Jamie Oliver didn't say this, the CEO of his restaurant group did.

Which was pretty f*cking low anyway.

He went on

"Blagden said a combination of high costs on ingredients, staff training and lower footfall had forced the restaurant closures."

Which translates to "not enough people were prepared to pay £14 for a unspectacular burger + fries outside of the more affluent metropolitan areas.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 06 Jan 17 16:52
someone on twitter has made serious allegations

true or they might need a good lawyer
By:
xmoneyx
When: 06 Jan 17 16:55
xmaseveevil on twitter
By:
Just Checking
When: 06 Jan 17 17:09
Getting very fed up with companies who aren't doing so well saying Brexit is to blame.
Yesterday it was Next (the BBC of course loved that), yet strangely John Lewis was doing better. How does that work?
Did Brexit not affect them in the same way? Why surely it must have. The effect is the same, the better companies will survive.

Today it's oliver. Are other restaurants not affected by Brexit.
For example the one closing in Scotland is in Aberdeen, which is in the middle of a downturn due to the oil price collapse.
Was brexit to blame for that? It's most proabably been struggling for ages and brexit is nothing to do with it.

I've eaten in a Jamie Oliver restaurant a few times and I thought it was overpriced for small portions and if I remember correctly there was no draught beer just overpriced little bottles. Total disappointment. I wouldn't chose to go there myself.
By:
Thin and Crispy
When: 06 Jan 17 17:21
Brexit... its the "Get out of Jail Free" card for any poorly run business.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 06 Jan 17 17:24
my poor picks today caused by brexit
By:
ZenMaster
When: 06 Jan 17 17:38
Brand 'Jamie Oliver' is past it's sell by date in the UK.

He knows it.  Italian produce has increased but if he was THAT good his brand would be able to shoulder it.
By:
The Leopard
When: 06 Jan 17 17:43
Saw that xmoneyx.....Shocked
By:
The Leopard
When: 06 Jan 17 17:44

Jan 6, 2017 -- 4:55PM, xmoneyx wrote:


xmaseveevil on twitter


^ This

By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 06 Jan 17 17:44
he's created so many new jobs and paid so much tax to the country whilst improving diets for school kids and relentless campaigning against sugar, yet he still gets so much hate, some people
By:
ZenMaster
When: 06 Jan 17 17:46
Totally agree scandy , he has done very well for himself.
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 06 Jan 17 17:46
Cost of ingredients. Jesus.  Food cost must come in at around 15%.
By:
Just Checking
When: 06 Jan 17 17:56
I don't "hate" him but I think his restaurants are overpriced and not very good and are trading entirely on his fame.
But what I'm annoyed at is DISHONESTY and taking us for MUGS.

As Jack indicates, what % of his costs are food ingredients? I'm guessing not that much, his portions are small but he likes plush expensive locations.

And what costs are affected by Brexit? The pound dropped against the dollar but hasn't changed that much against the Euro (presuming he's buying some ingredients from say italy). Pound - Euro is approx what it was 2013-2014, that's all.

So how is Brexit to blame? For making a percentage of a percentage of his costs revert to the same as they were 2 years ago?
His competitors will have the same. No, we don't like liars, and this bandwagon of blaming everything on Brexit.

At least he's not blaming Trump....
By:
Just Checking
When: 06 Jan 17 18:02
In fact I just looked at the commodity price of Wheat which is the main ingredient of pasta dishes and thus I presume Jamie Oliver dishes.
It keeps coming down. $425 today, 500 2016, 575 2015, 750 in 2014, 900 mid 2013.
http://www.nasdaq.com/markets/wheat.aspx?timeframe=5y

It's like an inverse Wheatxit, he should be raking it in. Brexit my ars*.
By:
donny osmond
When: 06 Jan 17 18:07
pound is down 15% v euro since referendum

but i agree its just him falling from fashion

better off buying at waitrose or marks and spencer and eating at home




he doesnt do himself any favours alienating the alt right, they can go
for a decent british curry and get better service
By:
Just Checking
When: 06 Jan 17 18:16
But it's just back to what is was 2-3 years ago, and the traded price of his principle ingredient, wheat, has basically halved since 2013.
I'm pretty sure his little lukewarm dishes are from what I remember are mostly italian style pasta.

He probably bulk buys it from LIDL.
By:
ZenMaster
When: 06 Jan 17 18:16
Wise words donny, i can only imagine those with a few spare squid would accept a hollow belly whilst waltzing home.

I would image they are oblivious to the plight of the Brexiteers.
By:
ZenMaster
When: 06 Jan 17 18:19
Interesting post JC

It seems that JO is not thinking outside the box on this one.
By:
donny osmond
When: 06 Jan 17 18:22
he has a restaurant in newcastle but why would you go when
newcastle already has so many good italian restaurants
and jamie doesnt even cook the food,..... that might be an
attraction

charity shops are full of his books, .....
By:
Just Checking
When: 06 Jan 17 18:25
I love italian food, yes, go to a good independent, it'll probably be cheaper and better. It's all in the name.
But then, we live in a world where people will pay £1000s for the name stuck on a handbag...
By:
Breedingmad
When: 06 Jan 17 18:29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrjHz5hrupA
By:
maleuk01.
When: 06 Jan 17 18:39
Maybe if he didn't try to charge £20 for a £10 meal he may get more business.

Sticks his name to the restaurant and thinks he can double the prices of the food.
By:
Platini
When: 06 Jan 17 18:58
Is that David Ike's twitter account? Laugh
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 06 Jan 17 20:56
Cant stand the competiton

Caroluchis is a better BET

Wink
By:
maleuk01.
When: 06 Jan 17 21:05
Brexit makes a great scapegoat for anyone with a struggling business.

"Cannot possibly be my fault, it must be Brexit"
By:
mad mad moon
When: 06 Jan 17 21:09
I was at Lords when he was selling a steak sandwich  for £20. He sold 5. He seems to think his name alone will
entice people to pay double the going rate.
By:
Just Checking
When: 06 Jan 17 21:10
It's a fantastic catch all excuse isn't it Laugh

"Sorry love, this has never happened before.
You could normally swing a small monkey off the thing when I'm aroused but .. it's just not going to happen tonight.
No! It's not that I can't get it up, it's just .. this whole brexit thing, y'know?"
By:
treble
When: 06 Jan 17 21:14
I agree with Tim Martin of Wetherspoons?

This has nothing to do with Brexit, it's because his food is no better than ours but four times the price!
By:
xmoneyx
When: 06 Jan 17 21:22
epic chocolate brownie £5.75

a scoop of icecream an walnuts Whoops





https://www.jamieoliver.com/italian/restaurants/edinburgh/menu/
By:
casemoney
When: 06 Jan 17 21:39
Did he not have restaurants go Tits up in Oz ?
By:
treble
When: 06 Jan 17 21:40
The Lasagne shocked me. A bit of stwed oxtail, pasta and cheese. £14 farkin quid! Id rather have chicken madras, pilau rice, bombay potato, keema nan and poppadums for that thank you very much.
By:
casemoney
When: 06 Jan 17 21:46
Spot on Treb ,Decent indian would pish all over that Jank Happy
By:
Just Checking
When: 06 Jan 17 21:48
Another thing to watch out for is a fair sized tip is AFAIK included in the bill which isn't the usual in my experience, so you might accidentally tip double. I'm not sure if it's always added, so check the bill in case. Not saying not to tip, just be aware of it. Last time I went to one the best part was the waiter was really good.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 06 Jan 17 21:51
his meals are 5 x true cost
By:
saddo
When: 06 Jan 17 21:54
"Juicy lamb chops cooked under a brick" for a score sounds fair enough, bricks are getting expensive.
By:
treetop
When: 06 Jan 17 22:10
Oliver is not being honest to my mind,many businesses are going to find it harder this year,particularly catering as they will have to increase the minimum wage AND contribute to workplace pensions for all their staff. It is sad they should try to pin that on brexit instead of being honest.
By:
saddo
When: 06 Jan 17 22:15
I don't mind him, I assume his heart is in the tv stuff, and some business man runs the rest. You can't do everything yerself.
By:
ebulGery
When: 06 Jan 17 22:20
It is amazing the number of celebrity chefs who get themselves in trouble when they try opening their

own restaurants or restaurant chains.

Also if I went to a Jamie Olivier restaurant, I would expect him to be there.

I agree with treetop as well.
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