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Hamsterdam
02 Jan 17 19:49
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I have a slim/medium build but bit of a pot belly. I have a flat chest/pigeon chest. I want to transfer weight from my pot belly upwards into my chest, this would suit me a lot better.

Searching the net just get a load of yank fitness video crap shoved in your face?

Anyone know the best weight to go about this?
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Report BRIGGSY08 January 2, 2017 7:51 PM GMT
Six months in jail
Report TheBaron January 2, 2017 7:53 PM GMT
Exercise won't get rid of a pot belly only changing what and how much you eat.
Report TheChaser January 2, 2017 7:54 PM GMT
Eat rice for a year and drink only water
Report BRIGGSY08 January 2, 2017 7:57 PM GMT
Weights
Sounds like u need to build yourself up abit 
Work on ya chest, arms, shoulders an ya belly will sort its self out
Report TheChaser January 2, 2017 8:03 PM GMT
Do chit chat members own weights ?
Report saddo January 2, 2017 8:03 PM GMT
Proper press ups would do chest and arms Briggsy, no need to buy owt.
Report Hamsterdam January 2, 2017 8:05 PM GMT
Vital statistics

6ft 2
13.8 stone

Should I lose weight (so comes off stomach) then put it on with weights to increase chest?
Report TheChaser January 2, 2017 8:09 PM GMT
Pull up bar is what yu need for arms fook wights
Report TheChaser January 2, 2017 8:10 PM GMT
weights*
Report SlippyBlue January 2, 2017 8:17 PM GMT
Stop drinking beer, just a thought.
Report TheChaser January 2, 2017 8:19 PM GMT
Better with spirits they fook the liver but you keep your gut looking nice
Report BRIGGSY08 January 2, 2017 8:19 PM GMT
Surely everyone does press ups saddo,
U can get a curling bar and about 50kg ow weighs for pennies
Up arm rowing with about forty kg. 3 sets of ten
Curls 40kg. 3 sets of ten
Saddo press ups 3 sets of ten.
Repeat three times.
Do that the morn to start u off then al tell u what to do on day two
Report TheChaser January 2, 2017 8:24 PM GMT
BRIGGSY08 02 Jan 17 20:19 Joined: 09 Apr 11 | Topic/replies: 601 | Blogger: BRIGGSY08's blog
Surely everyone does press ups saddo,
U can get a curling bar and about 50kg ow weighs for pennies
Up arm rowing with about forty kg. 3 sets of ten
Curls 40kg. 3 sets of ten
Saddo press ups 3 sets of ten.
Repeat three times.
Do that the morn to start u off then al tell u what to do on day two



Sounds easy work
Report scandanavian_haven January 2, 2017 8:24 PM GMT
If you start working out on day 1 like made when  you haven't lifted a weight in years, there'll be no day 2, the next day you will be really feeling it, finding muscles you never knew you had, start gently instead and build up the over time.

But before you even lift a weight or do push ups you should concentrate on cardio work to get rid of the fat and then start to work on muscle.
Report saddo January 2, 2017 8:25 PM GMT
No one who doesn't do press ups would rep 10 proper uns straight off, briggsy. Start easy and work up imo.
Report saddo January 2, 2017 8:25 PM GMT
sorry scandy, overlap.
Report rob_dylan January 2, 2017 8:45 PM GMT
I never do pressups.  But could do twenty straight off no worries.
Report BRIGGSY08 January 2, 2017 8:45 PM GMT
if u can't knock a 15 min workout like that on day one try zoomba or dancing cos u must be weak as fcckk
Report Emitdeb January 2, 2017 8:47 PM GMT
Agree with saddo. Press ups every day, better than nothing. Just keep it up. Shoulders chest triceps stomach, core strength.
Report saddo January 2, 2017 8:48 PM GMT
Sounds a bit pedantic rob, thought I'd seen you say you did some iron man thing, you'll be plenty fit if so.
Report scandanavian_haven January 2, 2017 8:49 PM GMT
Push ups are better than press ups.
Report BRIGGSY08 January 2, 2017 8:50 PM GMT
Whey aye saddo. 
Are u seriously saying u couldn't knock 10-20 press ups straight off??
Report saddo January 2, 2017 8:52 PM GMT
Not proper ones, which should be a reverse bench press with your own weight. Most people cheat em.
Report BRIGGSY08 January 2, 2017 8:57 PM GMT
Not being big headed but I cud rattle 4 sets of fifty any time of day even after a twelve hour shift.
I have just turned 40, like a smoke and get pissed at least a couple of times a week.
Report saddo January 2, 2017 9:00 PM GMT
I think the op does nowt, briggsy, aint a my c0cks bigger than yours fred.
Report Hamsterdam January 2, 2017 9:04 PM GMT
saddo you would be correct...i can only manage about 6 push ups before collapsing Laugh
Report BRIGGSY08 January 2, 2017 9:06 PM GMT
My c0cks not that big saddo.  About average I think.  U got a big in like?
Report rob_dylan January 2, 2017 9:10 PM GMT
You're only making it worse for yourself Briggsy.
Report BRIGGSY08 January 2, 2017 9:10 PM GMT
Do six then collapse get up when u can and do another six. Repeat until your fccked that shud be a start.
Report BRIGGSY08 January 2, 2017 9:17 PM GMT
If the guys serious then he has to push himself rob. Six press ups is silly.
At 13 stone if u can't hoy 40kg around for 15 mins a day then don't bother
Report BRIGGSY08 January 2, 2017 9:18 PM GMT
Chop logs then job sorted!!!
Report kincsem January 2, 2017 11:02 PM GMT
Something like cycling 100+ kms a few times a week will knock the weight off.
A six pack is muscles visible under thin skin (little fat).
Lifting weights will build muscles but you won't get a six pack (you might but it will be well hidden).
Report saddo January 2, 2017 11:40 PM GMT
Hamsterdam    02 Jan 17 21:04 
saddo you would be correct...i can only manage about 6 push ups before collapsing Laugh



That's not a bad start, honest. Keep yer arse high to force the weight towards chest, touch floor with chest, don't rush em.
Report zorrostrikes January 3, 2017 2:20 AM GMT
you need to burn off fat before you see six pack. even then you might not get the six pack.
cut out sugars and carbs. eat very lean protein. watch out you don't eat masses of protein as this will give you kidney stones. fish is best. fish and veg. with seeds. cumin is supposedly a good booster to help you lose weight.

just walk or swim - forget exercising like a maniac. sleep more. you burn fat while you sleep.
Report TheChaser January 3, 2017 6:08 AM GMT
just walk or swim - forget exercising like a maniac. sleep more. you burn fat while you sleep.



True words

If you start all sorts of Gym stuff be prepared to have a heart attack
Report The_KAMIKAZEE_DRINKING_MACHINE January 3, 2017 7:45 AM GMT
Cutting down the amount you eat will see you lose weight a lot more quickly than doing exercise. Obviously combining the two is best.
Report Facts January 3, 2017 9:06 AM GMT
Correct.
To lose a ' beer belly ' stop eating bread
Report scandanavian_haven January 3, 2017 12:22 PM GMT
Not just bread though is it, it's more about stop eating wheat to lose the wheat belly, because that's what a beer belly is.
Report unitedbiscuits January 3, 2017 12:51 PM GMT
Try Rolfing. Sessions are intense and expensive, so make sure your therapist commits to a finite regime from the start. The other half of the deal is the effort you put in between sessions; practice every day and you will benefit strikingly.
Report Platini January 3, 2017 1:17 PM GMT
Getting a pigeon chest is p1ss easy, it really is. Bench presses, job done.

But it will look stupid if you still have a beer belly, and that one is much tougher to crack. I've been trying (prob not hard enough) to get rid of my ponch for years Cry

I'm also of the opinion that diet plays a bigger role than exercise here, but why wouldn't you do both ? Exercise has so many health benefits beyond weight loss.

I've tried quite a few things and fund that eliminating high carbs was the thing that made the biggest difference in weight loss. I lost a stone and half in about 6 or 7 weeks. And as long as I kept up the low-carb diet the weight never came back - I stopped eating bread (all bread) and cereal and fought the hunger cravings (and they are severe for the first few weeks) by snacking on nuts (mostly cashews - plain, not salted, roasted, glazed or with any other sh1t added).

The weight dropped off and I dropped a waist size - that was great but I still have a pot belly. Its maybe reduced in size slightly (it must have for my waist size to go down, right?) but I can't honestly see any difference Sad

I know I need to do more, be more strict with my diet, cutting carbs is not enough, I need to cut out sugar and that's the hardest thing to do. I don't drink fruit juice anymore. I only drink water or tea. But I have too much sugar in my diet - I have sugar with my tea (I've cut back from 2 sugars to 1 sugar but I can't drink tea with no sugar). I'd rather go without tea than have it without sugar, so maybe I just need to stick with water, And thats another thing, I'm convinced water is a big part of the solution. I don't drink enough of it, most people don't. I always forget to drink water, and end up only drinking when I'm thirsty. And I need to be much more disciplined with the healthy foods - more veg, much more. More fish, much more, esp oily fish. I don't like the taste of salmon/mackerel so I have to get over that, somehow. More nuts and berries. Flax seeds I've heard are incredibly good for you. Much less sugar - no more biscuits, and no more chocolate unless its dark and very bitter with no trace of sugar in it.

In terms of exercise, I keep hearing swimming is the best (uses every muscle, great cardio workout) and cycling. I've mostly concentrated on weights (I've got barbell and dumbbells at home) but not much cardio. That has to change. I hear very good things about HIIT (high intensity interval training) so maybe that's the answer. I'm prepared to give it a good go because nothing else has made a dent in the pot belly.

Also, it goes without saying that genetics plays a big part in your body shape, and potential body shape. So this is much harder for some people than others, and it must get harder the older you get. I'm 47 so hopefully not too old yet to make a noticeable difference.
Report Johnny_Mustang January 3, 2017 1:19 PM GMT
I run 5k each day and can eat and drink what I like without putting any weight on.
Report TheChaser January 3, 2017 2:38 PM GMT
Eat raw chillies after every meal

You will blast all the crap out from gut

Johnny how long you run 5k in ?
Report Johnny_Mustang January 3, 2017 3:14 PM GMT
Hi Chaser,

Should clarify that I run 5kms a day not miles. Not terribly fast but usually between 23-24mins.
Report TheChaser January 3, 2017 3:38 PM GMT
Have you done it long and do you see your time get better or you just happy to run and not really challenge times.

Lot's of people go on runs nowadays seems best way to exercise imo
Report TheChaser January 3, 2017 3:40 PM GMT
The thing that stops me going running is the Coppers would stop me Laugh
Report Johnny_Mustang January 3, 2017 3:54 PM GMT
Laugh

Am relatively new to it, started a couple of years ago really just to get fit. Couldn't go much further than a mile when I started but gradually tried to go a little further each week. Was doing 10k daily after a year but it was boring as hell so I stopped that and kept it back at 5K. It's a good way to start the day and blows a few cobwebs away, plus it's a good way to unwind with the added bonus of course of not having to feel guilty if you want to stuff your face or have a few drinks later on.
Report rogerthebutler January 3, 2017 4:09 PM GMT

Jan 3, 2017 -- 3:14PM, Johnny_Mustang wrote:


Hi Chaser,Should clarify that I run 5kms a day not miles. Not terribly fast but usually between 23-24mins.


Impressive!

Just started doing Parkrun on a Saturday morning and breaking 30 minutes for the 5k is this years Holy Grail for me.

Report scandanavian_haven January 3, 2017 4:10 PM GMT
I prefer not to time myself when I run or worry about distance, I jut run along by the river and go in which direction I feel after then home when had enough, your body tells when you're done, obviously it would be different if you were training for something.
Report TheChaser January 3, 2017 4:14 PM GMT
Seems decent time for someone who can eat and drink and not give a hoot

I couldn't be fooked with diets tbh not overweight anyway but could do with being a little fitter ( walk everywhere anyway really ) just need to find the right track and times to do it and my cross country life begins Laugh
Report Injera January 3, 2017 4:21 PM GMT
Everyone's body is different hence why the diet industry is worth billions. No one plan works for all people.

Carbs and sugar are most probably the devil. I've seen weight drop off after giving up bread and pasta. What confirms the problem is the reaction you get after cutting out carbs. The body hates it! After a week or so it's fine.

Then, if you go back on a little bread, the hunger pains come just after eating!!!! Bizarre.

I go for high fat low carb but my weight has plateaued so am at a bit of a loss now. Mind you, exercise puts on weight so don't be deceived by what the scales say.
Report Johnny_Mustang January 3, 2017 4:24 PM GMT
Good luck Roger, you'll nail it soon enough.

The interesting thing is Mrs Mustang recently did something called 'couch to 5k' in 10 weeks (she didn't want to run with me!). I was deeply impressed with what she achieved as she'd never been running before. In essence it was for beginners and they met twice a week. The first week they walked for 1.5 minutes then ran for a minute and repeated each five or six times. Second week they stepped it up to 2 minutes for each and so on until she was running 20-25 minutes without stopping by week 7. She completed her 5k in 35 minutes.
Report TheChaser January 3, 2017 4:54 PM GMT
I have seen woman walking with little weights in hands then going on little dashes

I used to think i am walking past these joggers Laugh obviously everyone has a their own plan
Report TheChaser January 3, 2017 4:55 PM GMT
They never dashed when i got near by the way i wasn't following them
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