You try to contradict science using Science, of probability.

In its place you offer us creationism which does not have one single piece of evidence????????????????????????????

Belief in not proof!

high probability happens !



what are the chances of us being conceived

its the number of sperm/1 = 100,000,000/1  = 10 ^ 8

else we are somebody different


add in your mam and dads chances and their parents and theirs
and you soon reach probabilities that perhaps should not exist

yet here we are and there are billions of us, each with our own probability trees

high probability does happen.

but maths gives us a threshold, the impossibilty threshold.
it's not 10^8 which is the lottery win as well.
it's 10^50 - that's extremely more than 10^8.

imagine winning the main prize lottery every day for a few thousand years. see the difference.

now - you got to beat
10^120 twice (gravity and multiverse)
10^260 for one protein forming
then there are another few hundred variables to beat also ?

insane much.

if the world ...

i think it's fair to accept the concept that when a probability becomes so small it effectively becomes impossible.

but zorro's examples are silly.

for what seems like the 15th time, i must remind him that the number he quotes for the spontaneous formation of a protein is a nonsense and I've explained why a number of times. it's very very sad that he keep repeating it. it's why i've tried to stop posting on these threads.

likewise assigning some probability to the gravitational constant is also a nonsense. it's the equivalent to claiming that pi was created because the probability of it coming about by chance is infinite because it's a transcendental number.

We do not everything, we may never know everything.

Often the more we discover, the less we know.

But Science including Darwinism is trying hard.

Religion is like an Ostrich, it sticks its head in the sand!

oh zorro, not again.

it's reaching the stage where you're starting to look like a troll or have become so blinkered that you brutally filter out everything you read that causes even the slightest whiff of cognitive dissonance.

i've explained to you countless times that crick uses that number to explain that proteins did not just spontaneously assemble through chance from a pool of amino acids, rather that there must be a more feasible mechanism, and uses it to preface an argument for evolution.

It's used as evidence by crick to support the very thing you use it for to attempt to disprove.

That's how out of kilter you are.

To assign a probability to it, is the same as assigning a probability to pixies living inside my computer's CPU and it's that they are doing all the processing.

Let me explain this.

DStyle: "My computer's CPU is made up over a billion transistors"
Zorro: "No it's a little elephant doing the work".
DStyle "the probability of there being little pixies doing the work in my computer's CPU is close to zero"
Zorro: "Therefore the only remaining explanation is the little elephant"

It's an utterly insane version of the prosecutor's fallacy.

As for the limitations of carbon dating, there are a multitude of other dating techniques.

elephant dating

had a few to be fair

There is also the stuff we stand on the Earth

There are layers of it earth, rocks, sand, etc. It has all been formed and laid down over time.

Dig down and we go back into the past, fossils in each layer correspond to that time.

Or are you going to write off geology as well Zorro?


Scientist puts the odds of God existing at 67 percent.

erm One scientist!

There is always a website somewhere on the Internet to support whatever view we want

Still don't let me change you Zorro

Probabilities are NOT facts, they are a measure of uncertainty.

They change as what we know to be certain changes.

Our Daily betting should tell us the limits of probability.

They do me

it's been estimated that 80% of all statistics are made up.

I think Zorro is insecure and seeks confirmation of his beliefs. He's made a poor choice in seeking such confirmation on this forum and should look elsewhere.

Thanks for your concern Zorro and I'm pleased to hear that you are not feeling insecure as I had thought.
There's no need to worry about me, honestly. Just you look forward to happy times to come with Jesus.
God bless.

Oh and please stop posting pseudoscientific nonsense on here, leave that with the creationist website builders will you?

well the latest scientific theories say this, our existence. Behaves like a simulation. (i personally think this is BS) but if the physicists are right. it's a program being run somewhere on a super computer - it therefore means that time is an illusion. the program could complete in milliseconds and we would experience billions of years in the simulation.

science  - such BS they think up. And someone always buys it.

I'm sticking to my guns chaps - the messiah doesn't break his promises and there are a few to go. Famine, pestilence, meteors, etc. It's not nice stuff. But then it's for not nice people. Evil, all evil will be swept away. If you want to hang onto your baggage and manage it, like picking a scab. It's your choice. I would investigate further because eternity is a long time. I'm trying to scare you now, because rational discourse isn't working. I don't want you to join a club or pay dues to some cheesy tele evangelist. I just want you to read the bible and start a conversation with the real god. the one that wasn't created. That's eternal. Zeus was created, Thor, the fairies, the chocolate pot. But God is Spirit and never drifted into idol worship.
the bible deals with real people in a fallen world, they live in brutal times and violence happens, remarkably it still does today. Britain just smited the Iraq people, the Afghan people. etc. The bible is a history of several generations of Jews. What other religion follows ordinary people like that. The people have barbaric superstitions and God rebukes them for idol worship. False gods. You complain there are thousands of other gods. God does the same. False gods. The bible says Adam lost his authority to Satan. and Satan is now the god of this world. He has a right to rule till the lease expires. God gave 6000 years on the lease. The Jews are saying it's up soon. I believe them.

you can all quibble about numbers, years etc. to me it's irrelevant, time is God's creation. he walked on water he can bend time. I'm warning people, because I'm safe, but you are not. you need to investigate and question this world, because the father of lies rules it. he uses words  like life emerged from mud - life has the appearance of being designed. (so i can't believe my own eyes? trust my perceptions?)
investigate and be sure. because 100 years is not eternity. it's a scratch on a block of marble a mile deep.

end of rant.