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21 Nov 16
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banging on about productivity been the way for people to get pay rises whilst boss,s have a ready made supply of labour from the eu work as hard as you like your wages are gouing nowhere unless the law tells them to do so
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Upping productivity only ups the 'expected efficiency levels' of employees.
120% efficiency rates become the expected norm and soon become 80% on the graphs. Distribution Centres give out awards to the most efficient employees ( those who work to around 120% ) Those at 80% (the accepted norm) are told to look those working at 120% and wonder why they can not do the same. Wages do not increase. |
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Agreed...as a side issue i received a cheque from Santander today for 54p..is this some kind of pi$$ take?
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Over supply encourages this format.
The *owners* dine out on this system. How do the liberals feel about this? Oh, they support it. |
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It's always been tough at the top.
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we cant get 2 of the countrys highflyers mr le roux and mr ashley to even abide by the law and pay the minimum wage
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i helped my boss win loads of winning bets but got nothing out of it
he used to say to me every morning nightshift have finished 10 of them last night i bet you cant beat that,i always said i bet cant,  |
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Signed.
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The harder you work the longer you live.
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That must only apply to southerners Dr.
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straight from the non manual work handbook
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I worked in an office until about nine years ago and tbf, most of them were under-productive - forever on the internet, chatting, endless cups of tea, long lunch breaks...
I don't know what it's like now - on the one hand economic climate is tougher but on the other, everyone's got a smartphone and is on facebook, twitter etc |
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i call it shorttermism coming back to bite.
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Bosses should ban social media from the workplace and only allow use during official breaks.
Nothing wrong with that. That is more your office environment where that is a problem. Factory/warehouse environments do not offer enough down time to accommodate moblie phone use. |
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I don't think anyone can work from the minute they get in to the minute they leave. People have always had lots of breaks at work in between. Whilst they now will be spending that time largely on the internet, people would previously take breaks in many different ways. e.g. chatting about the weekend, football ....
Employers would be wise to focus on the amount of work completed by staff, rather than judge them on the hours they work, or the time they spend on the internet. Some people do lots of hours, yet achieve less than others who complete the basic requirement for hours. |
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monday morning you could go into millions of shops, cafes,pubs, hairdressers, ,etc,etc 2,3 4 etc people in each one doing absolutely nothing not a customer in sight, we,re a service economy,how do you measure productivity in a service economy
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The harder you work the longer you live.
I'll tell you were I got from ''Sir Dennis Thatcher'' He lived until he was 88. Don't you just love them. I'll tell you an even better one - ''the earlier you retire the longer you live.'' Now that really is sound advice. |
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Depends if you actually MAKE something.
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in general the uk doesnt but millions of immigrants will bring you a nice cup of coffee for a fiver
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ZenMaster 21 Nov 16 12:19 Joined: 24 Mar 16 | Topic/replies: 2,773 | Blogger: ZenMaster's blog
Bosses should ban social media from the workplace and only allow use during official breaks. Nothing wrong with that. That is more your office environment where that is a problem. Factory/warehouse environments do not offer enough down time to accommodate moblie phone use. If you leave your station for a p1ss your fired  |
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Tip from one of our warehouse staff "always carry a sheet of paper" = looks like you are doing something.
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kincsem 21 Nov 16 15:17 Joined: 12 Apr 04 | Topic/replies: 7,880 | Blogger: kincsem's blog Tip from one of our warehouse staff "always carry a sheet of paper" = looks like you are doing something. Clipboard and pointing helps also |
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i worked in a warehouse and a machine broke down the guy running it was blaming people on the line and saying no one would be leaving until the targets where hit
Its open 24/7 the next lot came in and everyone basically told the guy to fck right off |
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Only mugs work for a boss
Hth |
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I agree padlock
Working for £5-£6 and hour after tax is slavery Can make that on 25p bets or washing a few neighbours cars , cutting the peoples grass , washing windows etc |
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There are very few people who can make a regular income from betting. Fewer still who are earning £6 an hour.
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factory workers after tax make about £6 an hour
12k tax free 18 to 20 min wage is even lower ( that's who factories employ if they can ) Year 25 and over 21 to 24 18 to 20 Under 18 Apprentice October 2016 (current rate) £7.20 £6.95 £5.55 £4.00 £3.40 Believe it or not under 18 min wage is £4 Look at a lot of jobs they say UNDER 25s |
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They told us a few year ago youngsters where not getting jobs and would create them
It was to keep wages down in reality though 850 jobs for 16-24 year olds at The Big Hospitality Conversation Dundee http://www.bha.org.uk/bha_news/850-jobs-for-16-24-year-olds-at-the-big-hospitality-conversation-dundee/ Over 850 job opportunities, apprenticeships and work placements for 16 to 24 year olds were pledged today, Tuesday 26th January, by over 100 businesses at the Big Hospitality Conversation at the Apex Hotel in Dundee, attended by the Minister for Youth and Women's Employment, Annabelle Ewing, MSP. If your 25 in Dundee no job allowed here it seems |
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2011 they tell us this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/15258386/why-are-under-25s-hardest-hit-by-unemployment Then suddenly they create SLAVE jobs https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2153553/sun-employment-unemployed-under-25s-to-snatch-up-20000-job-opportunities-at-uks-biggest-careers-event/ 20,000 jobs for under 25s in Birmingham coming up why under 25 and why is the min wage now in 4-5 age groups ? |
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company boss,s are after squeezing every last penny into their profits and have no interest in trickling down better terms to their employees when they have a ready made workforce prepared to work for the minimum wage and less provided for them by the government,cameron even give boss,s free labour of under 21,s paid for by the taxpayer who were forced to work in retail etc to get their dole even though it worked out under the minimum wage
as i put on another thread yesterday its some of the countrys biggest earners sport,restraunts,pop concerts etc who pay their agency workers peanuts |
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40 hours a week for £160
come on play the game |
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37.5 don't forget they 30 minutes they take off people just to go for a slash
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Over 25s get min wage £7.20
Yearly Monthly Weekly Daily Gross Income £14,040.00 £1,170.00 £270.00 £54.00 Pension Deductions £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 Childcare Vouchers £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 Salary Sacrifice £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 Taxable Benefits £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 Pre-tax deductions £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 Taxable Income £3,040.00 £253.33 £58.46 £11.69 Tax £608.00 £50.67 £11.69 £2.34 National Insurance £717.60 £59.80 £13.80 £2.76 Student Loan £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 Post-tax deductions £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 Take Home £12,714.40 £1,059.53 £244.51 £48.90 Do overtime and you get robbed more |
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18-20 year olds min wage
Yearly Monthly Weekly Daily Gross Income £10,822.50 £901.88 £208.13 £41.63 Pension Deductions £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 Childcare Vouchers £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 Salary Sacrifice £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 Taxable Benefits £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 Pre-tax deductions £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 Taxable Income £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 Tax £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 National Insurance £331.50 £27.63 £6.38 £1.28 Student Loan £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 Post-tax deductions £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 £0.00 Take Home £10,491.00 £874.25 £201.75 £40.35 |
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bosses wont pay more unless there is a demand for workers.
but lower immigration and they sell less.. catch 22. best thing imo would be to force down house prices and rents. give more money in people pockets. may need a house building plan . the tories wont do it though as it affects their own wealth. imo we need house prices to come down by 50%. businesses will be better off for it as lower costs filter down ...every one is a winner bar those who got mortgages at the high point. |
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I have no mortgage, I would not regard myself a winner if my house halved in value. It would be better if they fell though
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off course all these luxury goods buisness,s, high end restraunts etc only excist because of the ridiculous high wages companies etc pay themselves,if there was a 50% house price crash in london,mr le roux wouldnt be selling many portions of smoked hay at 100 quid a pop
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you wouldnt e a loser either saddo.
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I'll sell it just before it happens, then buy two
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if trump carries out his plans for massive infrastruture spending in the usa,you can look forward to 6,7,8% mortgage rates in the uk in the next 5 to 10 years,its coming down the line make sure you have a chair to sit on when the music stops
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