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The Tories were in coalition until the last election.
We only had the referendum on the EU this year. If there wasn't so much opposition to limiting immigration coming from the left. It might have been addressed years ago. |
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Dear me Crippen you will blaming Labour for the stock market crash next
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I am a lefty through and through and a corbyn supporter for want of nothing better. I know for a fact that until we address immigration and the eu/brexit we will be rodgered at the next election unless the tory lot have some sort of disaster. These are corbyn's Achilles heel.
The liberals and left still cling to the same disastrous ideology. |
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Sure we accept that it a problem , but its not the only problem we have and it is absurd to believe that if all the foreigners and Migrants went home we would have solved everything
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The scapegoat culture is not a new thing if you look through history its been recycled lots of times
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You can see voters' problem with labour.
Even though some of their supporters suggest that immigration is an issue. The leadership of the labour party refuses to accept it. The leadership won't even concede that it is a problem let alone consider addressing it. |
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the only thing that might happen is that at a General Election, that traditional Labour voters cannot bring themselves to vote Tory or Liberal and would more than likely not vote at all, letting UKIP in. I reckon about 70-80 seats.
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anx not 5 -8 million(no one knows the true numbers because of illegals) - some Huguenots, Jamaicans in late 50s 60s etc but not the massive invasion in Blairs time and in such a VERY SHORT time
no comparison at all to the number of foreigners who have come here and also the indigenous leaving |
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if one of my daughters goes for a job but an immigrant (via an agency) paid less etc gets it how do you think she or anyone else feels
this is the problem Labour have accepting waged and salaried people situations. |
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anxious is waiting for his hero Rupert to start up a party
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In anxious's last post, he starts by admitting that immigration is a problem.
Then tones down his stance by suggesting that others want to send immigrants home, and that wouldn't solve anything. Then goes even further by saying that immigrants are being used as scapegoats. Which almost reverses what he said in his first sentence. As anxious displays here. Immigration is endemic in Labour's thinking. They will not compromise on it. |
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so the tory lot don't build enough houses but still give tens of thousands of council and social housing FIRST to immigrants who have been her for a few months
it is happening here in west london Labour just want to pack more in and fail to see why people don't want to trust them anymore. of course they after any votes they can get (if they have a vote of course) it goes down well with the asian vote but the funniest was when they interviewed an asian shopkeeper (oop north) who said to the interviewer he didn't want anymore immigrants in the country |
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That would never happen mobo
A company will pay more to an agency than if it contracted a worker direct. |
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I have not denied there is a problem , more did come through the EU freedom of movement and more have arrived via non EU countries, i think Jeremy and the leadership are wrong about this problem, but lets not say it is the only problem or that is responsible for everything that goes wrong
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This mobo
if one of my daughters goes for a job but an immigrant (via an agency) paid less etc gets it how do you think she or anyone else feels If your daughter and the immigrant are both signed up for the same agency, then the agency will have to pay the same wage. BUT the company may prefer the immigrant because they can manipulate the immigrant easier. British workers are being nosed out because hey are more likely to want guaranteed hours, the immigrant will accept being used and abused ( an agencies wet dream) |
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The tories for all their posturing have done nothing to address this issue
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Everbody knows that Immigrants will accept less money and be less likely to complain about anything
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Very true anxious, they obviously supported free-movement as it benefits the 'owners'
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This is were the Labour Party should be stepping in and supporting a work permit system that will ease the over-supply situation and give the agencies a thump on the nose.
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Obviously for that, we need to leave the EU.
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Yes i agree with that
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yes I take your point - they do love the non-unionised bussed in Poles at the sandwich making factories
I don't want to beat on but - jobs where you have to speak polish or spanish companies recruiting only spanish workers on contracts in the UK or even the exclusive right/monopoly of romanian's motorway scrap theft (joke) they get caught - go home and are back again a week later (quote from a motorway cop ooooops) |
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heathrow baggage is another brilliant example of not belonging to the right demographic
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The Tories have talked a good game about immigration but the fact is their donors want it.
They are not affected by immigration. Big business want immigration. The London liberal elite need the cheap nannies,maids and gardeners. Its the working class oppose immigration. Labour is no longer a party of the working class. Its a party that supports rights of asylum seekers,LGBTI concerns,maternity for wealthy women and Islam. Emily Thornbury is typical,affluent with a contempt for the working man. |
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not sure whether all industrialists want to stay in. Some see it as an opportunity to trade on a global level.
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80% of big business supported Remain.
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those that were asked and Cameron knew he would get the required answer. A lot sat on the fence (like some politicians) and so they would escape ridicule or critiscism whatever the outcome.
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big business support remain, the EU and Hillary Clinton
why? they want to continue the expansion of globalism at the expense of the working man, to line their greasy pockets. |
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"globalism"..you got it! Not European. Europe is economically on the decline
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they try to disguise globalism as something else by wrapping it up in a big diversity/multiculturism blanket.
thankfully more and more people are seeing thru it now. |
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The 'no borders' champions are he globalists wet dream.
More power to the few. Yet they can't see it. |
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Quite a few I have spoken to are drifting away from Labour anx. Their views on mass immigration and EU are not popular.
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I know that the immigration issue is a problem for Labour i cannot understand why the leadership will not address the issue , all that is needed is sensible restrictions on the amount of people coming into the country , if this was done they would regain a lot of support
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