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Report G1_Jockey_4 November 10, 2016 8:46 AM GMT
germany 190´s repeating.

when will humans learn from their mistakes.
Report saddo November 10, 2016 9:32 AM GMT
When Governments stop making people so unhappy that they choose potential turmoil over more of the same old shyte. I asked studyform if he thought the people's anger would simply go away if they continued to be ignored, he ignored the question.
Report G1_Jockey_4 November 10, 2016 9:34 AM GMT
so its ok to push the destruct button because some people dont like methods by the government in control?
Report G1_Jockey_4 November 10, 2016 9:35 AM GMT
if this goes t1ts up those who followed the fascist bandwagon should be held accountable.....lets start with farage.
Report ZenMaster November 10, 2016 9:46 AM GMT
Why do you think Farage is a fascist G1?
Promoting direct democracy couldn't be further away from fascism.

If you are calling those who are opposed to forced integration fascists, then maybe you need to question your own internal dialogue.
Report saddo November 10, 2016 9:48 AM GMT
"destruct button"? have a word with yerself before you start boarding your windows up, get a grip.
Report ZenMaster November 10, 2016 9:50 AM GMT
G1 is coming across like "Rick' of the Young Ones

Hopefully he will grow out of it.
Report saddo November 10, 2016 9:51 AM GMT
Indeed zen, the only fascistic behaviour in this country is from the jackbooted liberals.
Report G1_Jockey_4 November 10, 2016 9:54 AM GMT
it starts with anti foreign sentiment....it grows into comments like "new world order"

you lot are responsible for the fascist element getting a toe in the door.

they preyed on the gullible ......this is no different from germany int he 1930s.

you just dont see it.

you dont look back in history and you certainly do not look in front to think what might happen.

yet im the fascist LaughLaugh

good one...is that all you can come up with?
Report ZenMaster November 10, 2016 9:54 AM GMT
The big danger would be the Ukraine joining the EU and Russia being martially annoyed.
Then we have the dangers from Turkey.

These pro EU youths are extremely blinkered regarding future warning signs.
Report G1_Jockey_4 November 10, 2016 9:55 AM GMT
we fought int he war v fascism.

looks like our forefathers fought in vain.
Report ZenMaster November 10, 2016 9:56 AM GMT
they preyed on the gullible ......this is no different from germany int he 1930s.
Cry

Give it a rest "Rick"
Report The_KAMIKAZEE_DRINKING_MACHINE November 10, 2016 9:56 AM GMT
"G1 is coming across like "Rick' of the Young Ones"

LaughLaugh
Report G1_Jockey_4 November 10, 2016 9:59 AM GMT
bs.

turkey will not be allowed to join the eu and you know it.

ukraine is a different kettle but thats off the agenda now as russia stepped in.

i dont want ukrainian gangs marauding around europe selling drugs....and im sure they urged their government to seek entry.

thing is ukraine has huge natural resources and the eu knows having them in the eu would benefit the eu massively by not having to pay tariffs on them.

but thats a no goer as russia basically have blocked it.
Report dustybin November 10, 2016 10:01 AM GMT
'Direct democracy' is nothing more than a euphemism for protectionist principles.
No democracy exists within a vacuum. Everything has a knock on effect, turn the screw all you like to try and better a parochial lot but economies are linked and it's coming back to haunt you.

So trump either meets non of his rhetoric and becomes the same as the ones before or he stands by what he got elected for and all the hicks moan when they have to pay 100 dollars upwards more for their iPhones.
Report saddo November 10, 2016 10:04 AM GMT
Oh my, iphone prices gone up, wish I'd gone for more unlimited immigration now Cry
Report The_KAMIKAZEE_DRINKING_MACHINE November 10, 2016 10:07 AM GMT
Laugh
Report G1_Jockey_4 November 10, 2016 10:14 AM GMT
could buy the british equivalent of the iphone.....lfc will e along in a moment to say we invested smartphones.....
Report The_KAMIKAZEE_DRINKING_MACHINE November 10, 2016 10:22 AM GMT
British Leyland iphones on the market soon.
Report saddo November 10, 2016 10:23 AM GMT
G1, just over half our population were unhappy. Your half thought they should shut up and put up with it, no discussion. No one knows how this will play out, but now it is your turn to be unhappy, shut up and get on with it. Not a very nice position to be in, is it.
Report scandanavian_haven November 10, 2016 10:26 AM GMT
Reminded me of this

Report dustybin November 10, 2016 10:29 AM GMT
Saddo, it's an error to think you get the cake and to eat it, a huge part of Brexit relies on others, the determination of them to allow forms of trade to continue without immigration.
It's all about asking to have more things you want and less you don't and is heavily dependent on whether they see themselves as existing for your benefit.
We shall see how well that works out.
As we shall see how much trump attempts to play the strong arm internationally trying to do much the same.
I'd guess not much.
Report 1st time poster November 10, 2016 10:30 AM GMT
as with  brexit the losers dont seem to want to try and find some of the answers that might help those who think they,ve been left behind,they just bang on about the country been split doesnt seem to resonate with them that the country would have been split down exactly the same lines if clinton had won,as in brexit their answers seems to be that those millions missing out is the price they have to pay, so those who are doing ok can jog on by muttering nothing to see here
Report saddo November 10, 2016 10:33 AM GMT
I don't think I've got anything dusty, but as brexit showed, you ignore half a nation at your peril.
Report ZenMaster November 10, 2016 10:53 AM GMT
Dusty bin is correct and admitting that Remainers will continue to stamp their feet in an attempt to thwart any progress regarding leaving the EU.

Leavers really are up against it, if they want to end free-movement.
Report mobo November 10, 2016 10:54 AM GMT
to me it seems as if the losers in both countries (US & UK) just want to stir up trouble

I note the 'civil war' comments by Bonny Greer on sky last night and the comments and past demos of remainers and now the demos of losing democrats  - people talk about the fascism on the right but neither remainers nor democrats in the US seem to accept the democratic process anymore and want civil disorder instead.

The vote didn't got the way they wanted in the US so now it is fires and demos around the states - yeah some right wing fascists eh???  Aren't they?
Report mobo November 10, 2016 10:54 AM GMT
They didn't get the vote they wanted.
Report mobo November 10, 2016 11:03 AM GMT
you talk of fascism - have you seen the demos and fires in the US on sky news - cannot accept the democratic vote so let's burn and demonstrate and create a crisis - lets cause chaos - and people have the nerve to talk about fascism from the right when it is the democrats who are showing signs of subverting democracy
Report dustybin November 10, 2016 11:21 AM GMT
People really are over egging all of this.
This is down to a simple equation and that isn't about giving the people what they think they want (in the form of anti establishment) it's about how the process is so deeply flawed that it sells insidious venacular and blatant lies that will never be implemented how the electorate believed.
It's all well and good saying the democratic process means the one time a person gets to vote they shape the outcome, but the information given relative to the pitiful choice means the result bares no resemblance.
Whether it's an 18bn in cuts that the Tories refused to define as to where the axe would fall, or the lies about funding and scaremongering for Brexit or now the nonsense about walls and tariffs under trump, it's all mandates gained in false pretence.
Report The_KAMIKAZEE_DRINKING_MACHINE November 10, 2016 11:30 AM GMT
Even if Trump is sincere in his anti Globalisation stance you have to wonder how much he will actually get done when he is one man in a Pro Globalisation party,not to mention an infinitely sized bureaucracy nearly all of which I'm guessing didn't want him to become Prez.
Report Burton-Brewers November 10, 2016 11:34 AM GMT
The Mirror is also claiming there are millions protesting in the USA, they must use the same algorithm for calculating their circulation figures.
Report The_KAMIKAZEE_DRINKING_MACHINE November 10, 2016 11:36 AM GMT
LaughLaugh

And their polling!
Report gresty241 November 10, 2016 11:53 AM GMT
RICK LaughLaughLaugh
Report bigmo November 10, 2016 6:06 PM GMT
They can't handle democracy when it doesn't go the way they want.
Report mobo November 10, 2016 6:08 PM GMT
the bbc news is virtually promoting the car burning and window smashing
what the fk is their agenda?
Report Injera November 10, 2016 8:43 PM GMT
The death of Christendom.
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