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By:
lfc1971
When: 10 Nov 16 11:37
Hillary Clinton did not get more votes than Trump. You could only say that if the election was being run on a different system and then we cannot be sure how the votes would go.
Because if the election had been run on a popular vote system then Trump and Hilary would have campaigned on that system and Trump would probably have won again.
By:
anxious
When: 10 Nov 16 11:43
The thought of having the likes of Trump , rudy gulliani , newt gingrich in charge of the country is enough for any sane person to start fleeing the joint, clowns and rednecks in charge
By:
lfc1971
When: 10 Nov 16 11:48
Let me explain, how people voted depends to some extent on how Trump and Clinton campaigned, where they campaigned, the nature and state of where they campaigned, etc now this has an effect on how people vote at least to some extent and in places like California a large extent.
If Trump thinks California is lost he will not worry if all the voters there vote Clinton, and this distorts the popular vote.
By:
lfc1971
When: 10 Nov 16 11:52
You will not get the BBC explaining that to you or me. They will be very careful not to , you have to be able to think for yourself, just a little bit.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 10 Nov 16 11:54
We can't criticise the American voting system when the UK allows a party to get 4 million votes and only one MP.

Then another gets less than 1.5 million votes and 56 seats in Parliament.

And we think we've got democracy in the UK?

Now wonder there are plenty of commies like anxious left in politics.
By:
anxious
When: 10 Nov 16 11:56
Crippen promise me one thing never ever call me a Conservative or a Redneck Laugh
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 10 Nov 16 12:12
anx I would bet what you know about Rudy Giuliani could be written on the back of a stamp, you just chuck the word redneck about at things you don't like without even knowing what it means.
By:
The_KAMIKAZEE_DRINKING_MACHINE
When: 10 Nov 16 12:25
Skin disease?? I think you'll find it refers to farmers and such getting sunburnt necks.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 10 Nov 16 12:27
Southern working class anx, you know working class which you are so proud to be.
By:
anxious
When: 10 Nov 16 12:30
Yes Burton I am aware of that but because they were that poor they thanked the Lord that art least they weren't blacks who they perceived to be at the very bottom and utter trash
By:
dustybin
When: 10 Nov 16 12:31
It was the hick that was lured out on a xenophobic ticket, not dissimilar to the way labour were targeted by ukip over here.
The bottomline is they were lied to on both occasions.
By:
anxious
When: 10 Nov 16 12:32
Burton even though I was born and live in a working class city I do not allow the colour of my skin to think I am superior to anybody
By:
anxious
When: 10 Nov 16 12:34
I have more in common with poor blacks in Moss side than I do with middle class white people in cheshire
By:
1st time poster
When: 10 Nov 16 12:35
did the republicans take to the streets because 90% of black people voted for obama on the promise of policies that would help black people
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 10 Nov 16 12:37
I have more in common with poor blacks in Moss side than I do with middle class white people in cheshire

yes I worked that out for myself
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 10 Nov 16 12:37
Crippen promise me one thing never ever call me a Conservative or a Redneck Laugh

Well you're not smart enough to be a conservative and too idle to be called a redneck

Which confirms my suspicions of anxious - he's a Pinko at least.
By:
1st time poster
When: 10 Nov 16 12:38
why are you thick if you hope 350 million could be spent on the health service,but wordly and bright if you belive gideon and camereon were going to clear the defecit in 5 years
By:
The_KAMIKAZEE_DRINKING_MACHINE
When: 10 Nov 16 12:38
Pellegra!!LaughLaugh
By:
1st time poster
When: 10 Nov 16 12:38
especially when the so called thicko,s said it couldnt be done
By:
anxious
When: 10 Nov 16 12:41
Crippen you can insult me all day I really don't mind , I know it gets your daily frustrations out of yourself Laugh
By:
anxious
When: 10 Nov 16 12:43
Do people really believe that the poor will have a better life by turning on each other , that's exactly what divide and conquer is all about
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 10 Nov 16 12:44
I must apologise if you found it insulting anxious.

I wasn't meant as a insult.

It was intended as a matter of fact.
By:
anxious
When: 10 Nov 16 12:45
Again Crippen whatever as long as your frustration and tension is released , that's the main thing its got to come out of you some way
By:
Thin and Crispy
When: 10 Nov 16 13:52
There is a really good programme on BBC I player about the USA Presidency.

Rich Hall's Presidential Grudge Match.

Makes you realise that compared to previous Presidents Trump is quite tame.
By:
Injera
When: 10 Nov 16 15:31
According to her supporters she lost because..

She's a woman
The voters are racist
The voters haven't been to university
The voters are white.
By:
mobo
When: 10 Nov 16 16:15
I tell ya now.  The media and liberal types like bonny greer are whipping it up - make no mistake.  I was wondering if there will be condemnation of the rioting ?
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