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By:
ZenMaster
When: 06 Nov 16 18:48
Why would they sacrifice their seats if as the Remainers are now saying, the vote to leave the EU was not a vote to Leave Single Market membership?
By:
ebulGery
When: 06 Nov 16 18:49
This clearly shows what a rat Cameron was...no wonder he resigned. He has left it to others to explain to the people of this country

this referendum was not legally binding.

Gina Millar has spotted the legal loophole.
By:
lfc1971
When: 06 Nov 16 18:50
Here is a second quote from the reading of the EU referendum bill

"But whether you favour being in or out we surely should all be able to agree on the simple principle that the decision on our membership should be taken by the British people

Not by Whitehall beaurocrats, certainly not by Brussels eurocrats. not even by Government ministers or parliamentarians in this Chamber

The decision must be for the common sense of the British people. That is what we pledged

This Bill puts that to right and I commend it to the chamber"

the bill was passed through parliament and the Lords.
By:
lfc1971
When: 06 Nov 16 18:51
Once that bill passed through parliament it became legally binding.
By:
ebulGery
When: 06 Nov 16 18:52
One would have thought so lfc1971, but I am not a lawyer.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 06 Nov 16 18:52
Haven't see lfc for a while, think the penny has finally droppedGrin

or maybe he's put his rod away for the night.

The technicality of whether it's legally binding or not is not even remotely relevant anyway as the referendum is Politically binding, there is no way it is going to be blocked so no point getting hung up on it.
By:
donny osmond
When: 06 Nov 16 18:54
zen

thats the risk they face, who knows how it plays out

but its interesting
By:
ebulGery
When: 06 Nov 16 18:55
I see scandanavian.
By:
ZenMaster
When: 06 Nov 16 18:56
Lfc

I hear you and have an understanding that Acts of Parliament are open to interpretation. It works both ways though and you can use this loophole to your advantage if you ever want to challenge whether Acts of Parliament are legally binding or not.

I have been saying for years that they are not.
1. Statutes and Acts are only given the force of law by the consent of the governed.

When do the governed ever give consent?
By:
lfc1971
When: 06 Nov 16 18:58
Grin no read the words of the 2nd reading of the EU referendum bill.
there is not and never was any intention that this was to be advisory..

the words are about this being a decision for the British people alone and made specific reference that.
By:
ZenMaster
When: 06 Nov 16 19:00
Donny

Those MP's  could assume that 33 million people voted in the EU referendum but only 10 million wanted to leave the membership of the Single Market.

If that is the case, do they believe they are on the right side of the argument or the wrong side to black anything that means the UK loses membership of the Single Market?

I think i know the answer.
By:
ZenMaster
When: 06 Nov 16 19:01
*block
By:
lfc1971
When: 06 Nov 16 19:01
to think that the referendum was merely advisory is quite simply so ludicrous as to be not even worth arguing. It is impossible that it would have been.
By:
ZenMaster
When: 06 Nov 16 19:03
All Acts of Parliaments will have lawful loopholes.

I have always thought this.
By:
ebulGery
When: 06 Nov 16 19:09
So it appears May has to make the decision to honour the will of the people,

or decide that leaving the single market is too damaging to this country. So Brexit will not be honoured.

hmmm?

I think this whole thing stinks!
By:
smartie3
When: 06 Nov 16 19:15
Nov 8th Trump wins US election after several attempts to derail the process through "recounts" etc
Dec Teresa May goes to Supreme Court and loses.
March 2017 Article 50 is not made by that time
All summer long the govt attempt to put a package that all M.Ps can sign up to. This fails and talk of a further referendum is mentioned.
All the time that this is going on Farage has used the time wisely recruiting prospective MP's.
Election called May 2018
UKIP wins a large number of seats in the North of England thus enabling Teresa May, with her own M.P's to start article 50.
The U.S, under Trump very quickly signs an open trade agreement. This no leaves a faltering Europe on the sideleines.
2020 The Euro, under deep financial pressures with both the Spanish and Italian economies crashing, collapses.
By:
smartie3
When: 06 Nov 16 19:16
"now"
By:
ebulGery
When: 06 Nov 16 19:17
Shocked
By:
ebulGery
When: 06 Nov 16 19:29
The EU will never agree to us having access to the single market, unless we accept immigration.
By:
smartie3
When: 06 Nov 16 19:43
We wont need it.
a) we will have a free trade agreement with the States and Europe will be falling over themselves to have one with the US/UK trade block
By:
smartie3
When: 06 Nov 16 19:44
b)Vast areas of Europe will not be worth trading with. They will be struggling
By:
donny osmond
When: 06 Nov 16 19:50
theres always room to look for loopholes in laws as english is such a strange language

during his impeachment bill clinton suggested that the definition of the word "is" made a difference

Laugh
By:
dave1357
When: 06 Nov 16 20:48
smartie3 • November 6, 2016 7:15 PM GMT

Nov 8th Trump wins US election after several attempts to derail the process through "recounts" etc
Dec Trump nukes Rome in a twitter argument with a man called Ron Pope
ends


fixed
By:
smartie3
When: 09 Nov 16 12:32
First part correct!
WD Trump
By:
smartie3
When: 26 Nov 16 20:10
First part definitely correct!
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