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let's see what nigel had to say on the issue today....
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-nigel-farage-forced-to-admit-the-eu-referendum-was-only-advisory-a7401151.html |
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If English nationalism wasn't outlawed you could suggest that Brexiteers might stop buying German cars.
You are claiming your country back so give it a hand by buying its products. Another suggestion is dont holiday abroad,you have a magnificent country,travel around it and enjoy. Remember its your money that has kept the EU afloat. |
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Burton-Brewers 06 Nov 16 18:00
The most rational approach, as Dominic Cummings suggested, is not to appeal, and move forward pushing it through parliament. yes because all along Cummings wants free movement of people that is why he wouldn't bring his group and Leave.EU together. no. He didn't want to have anything to do with Leave.EU or Farage's group because the anti-immigration message was particularly off-putting for leave marginal voters. It was tactically correct to separate the official campaign from these sorts of messages. Leave probably would have lost otherwise. It definitely would have lost if combined with a decent campaign from Remain. Cummings wants VERY different things to the majority of leave voters, but he's been quite clear on leaving the single market and stopping unskilled migration. |
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He didn't say that, he said the politicians lied. No where in the bill which was passed through parliament and the lords does it say that the referendum was advisory.
Do not trust these foreign lawyers, they do not understand English law. |
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UKIP who are a one policy party pulled in 4 million votes at the GE, 4 million anti immigration voters, fast forward to the referendum and 17 million voted out of the EU, there was not suddenly 13 million extra anti immigrant voters, they voted for other reasons, and those other reasons have to be reflected in the type of Brexit May gives Britain meaning that doesn't include a pull up the drawbridge type of hard brexit.
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^ poor logic there.
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many who vote tory and labour are anti immigration, that is why you have the extra millions voting brexit.
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may has to think about what is best for the long term future of tory party plus her own legacy
this is why she cut a deal to become unopposed leader of tory party when boris would not |
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both the conservative and labour party wanted remain. many tory and labour voters disagreed.
Why? |
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Scandanavian_haven
You need to take into consideration the high turnout and those Leavers who never vote at the GE. Many Labour voters also abandoned the Labour Party due to Corbyn not backing the Leave campaign. Most of the Labour working class votes will want some priority for UK workers. One would assume. But yes many of the Tory Leavers will accept the 4 freedoms of the Single Market. |
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lfc considering you think the referendum was legally binding when you've clearly had it explained to you by somebody far more intelligent, that it wasn't, I'm not sure you understand good from bad logic
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You have it right there lfc1971
In our electoral system, people vote for parties not policies scandanavian. People voted in to the referendum in good faith, thinking that the majority vote would be acted on by parliament. What this judgement is saying is a referendum has no legal basis, it is only advisory to parliament. The law needs to be amended to make referendums legally binding on parliament. As it is all referendums up to this point must also have been advisory. |
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There is a clear of honesty here.
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lack of honesty
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scandinavian if thats true why since the day of the defeat have the remoaners been complaining of huge increases in hate crime,immigrants been told in the street to pack up and go home,etc,etc ,which if true which the remoaners assure it is would suggest the brexiteers voted not just for no more coming but getting shot of alot who are already here,remoaners cant have their cake and eat it
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that's very rude scandanivian.
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the referendum act allows for referendums to be legally binding if
it is declared so in the bill that enacts it this one was not , others have been i doubt we will have any more uk referenda as public has proved it cannot be controlled |
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I think many realised that it was not legally binding but thought it elementary that with it being politically binding that it would still be honoured.
Of course it will probably still be honoured but on the terms that the Remain camp desire. |
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donny osmond • November 6, 2016 6:23 PM GMT
the referendum act allows for referendums to be legally binding if it is declared so in the bill that enacts it this one was not , others have been I was not aware of this Donny, I doubt many people were either. This is a dishonest trick |
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that is not correct Donny. there has never been a referendum in British history that was not binding. and they do not say that they are legally binding.
they are by the very process of having gone through parliament |
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its not the case.
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The referendum was only to stop further immigrants, nothing about immigrants already here, so they stay as far as I am concerned.
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can we have a few examples of a referendum that was not legally binding and that said it would not be.
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ebul, most people are just finding this out
some folk did mention it pre vote, and zen master is correct , imo, that it should be honoured to honour it, the government need a simple act of parliament, and mps need to push it through |
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didnt stop remoaners saying 1000,s were stopped in the streets by brexiteers and told to go home,the same remoaners now telling us breiteers didnt vote for a block on immigrants
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under what circumstance would a referendum not be legally binding?
I can`t think of one, I suppose it is possible I read it somewhere. |
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I agree Donny.
All immigrants who came in legally through the EU have a right to be here. Illegals who smuggled their way in, do not. |
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Exactly
Remainers want it both ways. Leavers = xenophobes/racists Immigration was not the main concern  |
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ffs,ffs,ffs,ffs the remoaners dont want a simple act of parliament ,they want a bill in which may puts down her strategy and they want to debate them if they disagree with them,what part of that do people not understand
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the terms will be in the hands of mother theresa , and tory grandees
we might get a surprise, we might not |
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He didn't want to have anything to do with Leave.EU or Farage's group because the anti-immigration message was particularly off-putting for leave marginal voters.
rubbish VoteLeave knew they were going to lose the referendum, and that's why they changed course in the last 2 weeks of canvassing. Instead of banging on about the financial implications of Brexit, as they did for the first 10 weeks, Boris Johnson finally woke up and realised that pointing out the problems of immigration was the only way they would win and Cummings was bleating about it. It was only the anti-immigration that finally won the day. |
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zenmaster does what remoaners seem incapable of doing rearranges nail,hits head,on the
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you see would Britain go to the trouble of asking people to vote, only to say sorry we only wanted your advice, it does seem a little strange for anyone to think that could have been the idea behind holding a referendum
Does that make sense? I suppose anythings possible. |
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All of it first time poster.
Parliament can vote on our way of leaving, but they are morally obligate to leave the EU. |
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obligated
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cleggy ,farron and co havnt got a moral bone in their body
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cleggy farron and co dont have a leg to stand on neither ....
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the terms will be in the hands of mother theresa , and tory grandees
Remain MP's (80% of Parliament) need to agree to these terms. Will they? not on your nelly unless we Remain in the Single Market. |
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*Remain with Single Market membership may i clarify
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they sacrifice their seats at next election to remain in single market for an extra 2 years ?
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