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All those friends and loved ones not buried on consecrated ground unfortunately have gone to hell thanks to a new ruling by the big Daddy in Rome.
Unfortunately no matter how good you've been in your former life it's no good as you are considered a Pantheist.
Good news is burials start at £800 in Catholic crypts but it's strictly a 1 body 1 space policy. No doubling up with your spouse, after all "business is business" for the richest Church on the planet.
There is now a massive queue at the gates of hell as all those righteous beings that never done a bad deed unfortunately have fell foul of this new rule.
In fairness they'll be able to meet Copernicus and Galileo who broke the rules by saying the Earth went round the Sun.
The Roman Catholic Church has banned the scattering of ashes of the dead, insisting that, in some circumstances, those who request it for themselves should even be denied a “Christian funeral”.
Strict new Vatican guidelines forbid a list of increasingly popular means of commemorating loved ones - from scattering ashes at sea to having them turned into jewellery or put in a locket – dismissing them as New Age practices and “pantheism”.
Full story:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/25/catholic-church-bans-scattering-of-ashes-as-pantheism/
Unfortunately no matter how good you've been in your former life it's no good as you are considered a Pantheist.
Good news is burials start at £800 in Catholic crypts but it's strictly a 1 body 1 space policy. No doubling up with your spouse, after all "business is business" for the richest Church on the planet.
There is now a massive queue at the gates of hell as all those righteous beings that never done a bad deed unfortunately have fell foul of this new rule.
In fairness they'll be able to meet Copernicus and Galileo who broke the rules by saying the Earth went round the Sun.
The Roman Catholic Church has banned the scattering of ashes of the dead, insisting that, in some circumstances, those who request it for themselves should even be denied a “Christian funeral”.
Strict new Vatican guidelines forbid a list of increasingly popular means of commemorating loved ones - from scattering ashes at sea to having them turned into jewellery or put in a locket – dismissing them as New Age practices and “pantheism”.
Full story:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/25/catholic-church-bans-scattering-of-ashes-as-pantheism/
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when people stop believing in fairy stories to make us feel better about death, it won't matter.
when we're dead we're dead, our genes survive, that's all that is important. seems so obvious to us mortals.
when we're dead we're dead, our genes survive, that's all that is important. seems so obvious to us mortals.
You've got to hand it to them though they never miss an opportunity to make a few quid.
Read the article - they are against turning ashes into Jewellery and paperweights. Mixing ashes with other things. Basically treating the dead with irreverence.
I don't think they said - Unfortunately no matter how good you've been in your former life it's no good as you are considered a Pantheist. in the article?
I don't believe in organized churches that make rules that are not in the bible.
VS 10:41-45 - “41 Hearing this, the ten began to feel indignant with James and John. 42 Calling them to Himself, Jesus said to them, “You know that those who are recognized as rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them; and their great men exercise authority over them. 43 “But it is not this way among you, but whoever wishes to become great among you shall be your servant; 44 and whoever wishes to be first among you shall be slave of all. 45 “For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many.”” – When the rest of the disciples become indignant at James and John for asking for positions of prominence in Jesus’ coming kingdom, He yet again takes this opportunity to remind them that greatness in His kingdom comes as a result of serving.
that would put the pope at the back of the queue?
I don't think they said - Unfortunately no matter how good you've been in your former life it's no good as you are considered a Pantheist. in the article?
I don't believe in organized churches that make rules that are not in the bible.
VS 10:41-45 - “41 Hearing this, the ten began to feel indignant with James and John. 42 Calling them to Himself, Jesus said to them, “You know that those who are recognized as rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them; and their great men exercise authority over them. 43 “But it is not this way among you, but whoever wishes to become great among you shall be your servant; 44 and whoever wishes to be first among you shall be slave of all. 45 “For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many.”” – When the rest of the disciples become indignant at James and John for asking for positions of prominence in Jesus’ coming kingdom, He yet again takes this opportunity to remind them that greatness in His kingdom comes as a result of serving.
that would put the pope at the back of the queue?
they are against turning ashes into Jewellery
Best to find out what hand your misses wipes her arse with, before you get turned into a memorial ring.
Best to find out what hand your misses wipes her arse with, before you get turned into a memorial ring.
Zorro you only posted half a story.
The point being made is that it is also forbidden to keep the ashes at home.
The point being made is that it is also forbidden to keep the ashes at home.
Think of how much grief, hurt and pain this has caused to millions.
I listened to a radio discussion yesterday and an elderly gentleman was grief stricken because he wasn't allowed to get his ashes mixed with his wife's. Or think of the sailor's wife that scattered her husbands ashes at sea and is now told she done the wrong think.
Some people take this mumbo jumbo very serious and this decision will only cause stress to them. But hey, the richest Church isn't making the profits it needs so what's a bit of stress when it comes to business.
I listened to a radio discussion yesterday and an elderly gentleman was grief stricken because he wasn't allowed to get his ashes mixed with his wife's. Or think of the sailor's wife that scattered her husbands ashes at sea and is now told she done the wrong think.
Some people take this mumbo jumbo very serious and this decision will only cause stress to them. But hey, the richest Church isn't making the profits it needs so what's a bit of stress when it comes to business.
Let's leave the Catholics alone, Brits will be clamouring to live in Italy or Eastern Europe in a few generations.
so Sorry - i should have cut and pasted the whole article???
No Zorro but you posted this
Read the article - they are against turning ashes into Jewellery and paperweights. Mixing ashes with other things. Basically treating the dead with irreverence.
What's wrong with being able to keep the ashes at home as lots of people do?
And why can you not mix husband and wife ashes?
Surely neither is treating the dead with irreverence as you say?
Read the article - they are against turning ashes into Jewellery and paperweights. Mixing ashes with other things. Basically treating the dead with irreverence.
What's wrong with being able to keep the ashes at home as lots of people do?
And why can you not mix husband and wife ashes?
Surely neither is treating the dead with irreverence as you say?
I'll tell you what happens then, It was my old job to clear houses for a living.
the removers come into a house and see an urn. It has no monetary value so it's put in a black bag and makes it's way to a tip.
instead of sitting in a cemetery. your remains are with the slime in the landfill.
I personally don't care about the body and it's remains. It's not of any consequence.
But the churches do, I'm just pointing out why they do.
religion is ceremonies and men who need structure in their lives, nothing to do with Christ.
I'm sure those that burn up in wars and house fires find their way to God. Those that believe in him.
the removers come into a house and see an urn. It has no monetary value so it's put in a black bag and makes it's way to a tip.
instead of sitting in a cemetery. your remains are with the slime in the landfill.
I personally don't care about the body and it's remains. It's not of any consequence.
But the churches do, I'm just pointing out why they do.
religion is ceremonies and men who need structure in their lives, nothing to do with Christ.
I'm sure those that burn up in wars and house fires find their way to God. Those that believe in him.
The Vatican has said that ashes can be kept "in grave circumstances" 
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