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By:
DStyle
When: 19 Oct 16 10:35
I'm not sure that's right mobo. Almost certain that the age assessment is being done by home office staff The question is how?

It's just such an obvious political banana skin, and while I always like to go with Hanlon's razor first (never attribute to malice what can be explained through incompetence), this seems f*cking odd.
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 19 Oct 16 10:38

Oct 19, 2016 -- 10:22AM, ZenMaster wrote:


The establishments dents spokespeople are outraged at the thought of giving these fully grown hunters an x-ray to age test them.


Fk em!

Our country our rules.

I hate what this country has become too Porcupine or Pineapple. We are not perfect but we generally have good intentions. It is in our national psyche to help those less fortunate than ourselves (look at something like Live Aid). We generally appreciate that to be born British is to have the winning ticket in the Lottery of life.

However, by and large, we also love playing by the rules. If someone or group is straightforward and honest then we go to any lengths to help them. But over the years our good intentions and charitable nature have been spat on and abused  to accommodate overly-vocal, overly-entitled minorities and their asinine self-elected spokespeople, that you get what we see in this thread.

Distrust, cynicism and a thoroughly understandable desire to push back and question the twisted morality that simply takes the p1ss and pushes an imperfect world to accommodate them no matter what the damage.

By:
DStyle
When: 19 Oct 16 10:45
The British Dental Association are being disingenuous.

Of course we shouldn't be x-raying every person applying for asylum as a child. But we should be x-raying those who raise adequate suspicion.

The Border Agency and Customs have a right to x-ray people at airports if they suspect that have swallowed drugs, i.e. they have reasonable grounds to believe a crime is being committed.

This really isn't any different.
By:
mobo
When: 19 Oct 16 10:52
Sorry dstyle - it was quite clearly stated that it was a particular migrant charity/organisation that was selecting the men(I use this term advisedly) I wish I had recorded the name of it.
By:
mobo
When: 19 Oct 16 10:53
apparently these physical checks are used all over the world and there are various ones
By:
mobo
When: 19 Oct 16 11:09
Going to Croydon!!!!
The charities selected them.
But then I expect some of the workers are after other things haha!!!

They are saying home office officials do the checks !!  Are they blind?

What schools will they go to ha ha!!!

We have been conned by our own officials. But when has that not happened. They always do. 

I see sky are featuring the youngest - the 14 year old - usual bias.  Not featuring the 28 yr old or the 35 yr old!!??

They are playing the sob story line as hard as they can go on sky. They feature young kids to back up the story yet it is only young men who have come to the uk.
By:
alun2005
When: 19 Oct 16 11:52
Fair play to these 'vulnerable child refugees'. While the school kids of Britain watch Peppa Pig and try to win Blue Peter badges, their Middle East/Asian equivalents force their way illegally across umpteen countries, seemingly desperate to live in Britain, rather than seek refuge in any number of safe counties en route.

Is it maybe the tantalising thought of watching CBeebies channels that has given these young toddlers this drive and determination?
By:
Clouseau
When: 19 Oct 16 12:39
Which schools are they going to go to? I am sure that Shami Chakrabati is checking down the back of her sofa for a few bob to get the fees together for the 35 year old to get into Dulwich College alongside her own son.
By:
1st time poster
When: 19 Oct 16 12:47
the most worrying part for me is that all these yes men in the home office sat around a table and not one had the savy to say

look the eyes of the world are going to be on the 1st 30,40 kids to come before interest wanes,so for gawds sake lets make sure most are under 5 .girls preferably with a bandage or 2,the fact this never happened means either they should all be sacked on the spot or there were no kids to fit the profile ,worrying either way
By:
khyber kim
When: 19 Oct 16 12:48
This is surely the biggest pi55 take out of our country ever.

Any coincidence that the biggest and strongest were at the front of the queue? Surely not by threats and bullying of the younger kids.
By:
1st time poster
When: 19 Oct 16 12:50
reminds me of wodney winning that painting competition, Laugh
By:
dunlaying
When: 19 Oct 16 13:03
Some relatives foster vulnerable children. They have done so for some years with considerable success. They also make a very good living from it. A handsome family with a teenager daughter that is Prix De Diane and a foster child in her mid teens who is doing pretty well after a troubled start in life. The wife is Group class too.
This morning the husband was asked if he would take on , on a temporary basis , a child from Calais.
He said "No , thanks." or words to that effect.
By:
khyber kim
When: 19 Oct 16 13:09
It appears the French are sending them over without checking their age, seems it's up to us to do it here.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 19 Oct 16 13:33
Well we did vote to control our own border...
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 19 Oct 16 13:35
KK you can't blame the French they just want rid we'd probably not bother checking in their position.
By:
ZenMaster
When: 19 Oct 16 13:39
The French are taking the pish.

Put any of these "kids' in a class group with UK kids and there could be consequences.
Whatever age group they really are, they are sexually frustrated with no outlet.....unless they are allowed some 'private time' and can bash the Iman.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 19 Oct 16 13:51
'kinell, now they're paedophiles as well as being adults. Jesus wept. Can we have a minute's silence to reflect on when Britain was decent please.
By:
ZenMaster
When: 19 Oct 16 13:58
Was Britain decent pre or post Rotherham Pineapple head?

The Germans have had to put signs up in their swimming pools, hand out leaflets about sexual conduct.

Your mentality played it's part in the Rotherham abuse scandal.
By:
saddo
When: 19 Oct 16 14:00
Yes it did, they realised they were invulnerable because of the way the luvvies lay down for em.
By:
jamesdean
When: 19 Oct 16 14:03
Was Jimmy Saville pre or post Rotherham Zen?
What about all the nonces at the BBC, pre or post Rotherham?


By the way, it's a fking disgrace who they've let in from the 'jungle'
Someone has to be held to account for that. Everyone of them should be age tested and sent back if over 17 and replaced with
genuine children.
By:
mobo
When: 19 Oct 16 14:09
The media and the luvvies have been pounding the racists over and over again with their agenda and they send us men  ha ha!!!
By:
detraveller
When: 19 Oct 16 14:18
I personally came aross a grey-haired guy(must have been 26+ atleast if i give him the benefit of doubt, but he looked 30+). Definitely older than me and im 27.

During an interview with him in the job centre, we found out he has registered his age as 17 years old. According to the law, we 'had to send him to school as school is compulsory'.

He also has a german girlfriend who is pregnant(the easiest way to german nationality).

hate Islam all you want, or the Sharia law. But i've said hundreds of times on this forum that our laws allow for this to happen. Not the Sharia laws. The govt knows this very well. We are being conned. I have zero doubt about that.

People call me an Islam apologist here when i say its not the muslims or islam but our own govts that are to blame. Till last month i used to deal with most of the refugees at their first point of entry in Germany. I read this forum and see nothing but people suffering from islamophobia and venting out their frustrations at the religion of peace, when they have no clue about the issue. They see something on BBC and think that must be the truth. I can assure you guys that refugees have been brought here through a well-planned and well-executed mission. Some have told me they were given 'VIP status as soon as they entered Austria'.

Just put yourself in their shoes for a moment and think, if you were to be deported and sent to say, Afghanistan to live the rest of your life, and then you realize you could avoid that by saying you are 17 when you are actually 30, why wouldn't you fake your age? You only live once afterall :)
By:
jamesdean
When: 19 Oct 16 14:20
Stop talking sense detraveller, that is banned on chit chat!
By:
ZenMaster
When: 19 Oct 16 14:25
We are blaming the system but still attacking the culture and religion detraveller.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 19 Oct 16 14:25
I can assure you guys that refugees have been brought here through a well-planned and well-executed mission. Some have told me they were given 'VIP status as soon as they entered Austria'.

a well executed mission? that cannot be true, they are going to Germany because it is so wealthy and they are such a nation of humanitarians. We know this because Edt the German told us so.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 19 Oct 16 14:26
Edy the German told us so.
By:
Hound-Dog-2
When: 19 Oct 16 14:26
Looking at the pictures, some of these 'children' look like they need a shave.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 19 Oct 16 14:36
some could easily form a Frank Sinatra tribute band
By:
1st time poster
When: 19 Oct 16 14:40
government admit 2 3rds of the refugees entering the uk over the last few years claiming to be kids have found out to be adults,led down the garden path again by the political elite and the luvies,whats the point in mi5,6 spending millions vetting people when the home office is just waving them through,farage should invite trump over to pull the drawbridge up whilst we employ people in government with the nous to spot a duck thats yellow and quacks
By:
1st time poster
When: 19 Oct 16 14:50
900 and odd entered last year 600 and odd over 18 and some loon and sky getting battered by douglas murray on sky say there going through rigorous checks in france
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 19 Oct 16 14:53
out of the first batch of 14 who arrived on Monday, 8 of them have been taken today by UNICEF in one of their mini buses to the Westfield shopping centre with vouchers donated by local charities. In Toys R Us 2 asked for some Lego and the others wanted the blonde with big t1ts on the checkout.
By:
1st time poster
When: 19 Oct 16 14:59
LOL KATE HOPKINS LaughLaugh

war is hell but it doesnt turn anyone into BENJAMAN BUTTON, Laugh
By:
detraveller
When: 19 Oct 16 15:30

Oct 19, 2016 -- 2:25PM, Burton-Brewers wrote:


I can assure you guys that refugees have been brought here through a well-planned and well-executed mission. Some have told me they were given 'VIP status as soon as they entered Austria'.a well executed mission? that cannot be true, they are going to Germany because it is so wealthy and they are such a nation of humanitarians. We know this because Edt the German told us so.


I call it a well-executed mission because I can order weed from Pakistan and I get it within 15 days. In 15 days you can transport a person from Pakistan to Germany wtih guaranteed on time delivery(with drugs). Surely this is not possible without support inside Germany? and on the way?

And with great consistency, people tel me they dont feel the need to integrate for the simple reason that we send soldiers to their countries and destroy their country, so they have a right t do the same to ours(For instance, only last month Germany sent 600 soldiers to Syria to 'monitor IS trade routes'. ). And that we should be happy they at least don't come armed(and rather as refugees left at our mercy). Our governments welcome them with open arms afterall. That people don't like it is an issue, but clearly no one gives a feck abt what people think.

Maybe its flawed logic, but you cant blame them for thinking like this(especially when they are uneducated). We have happily bombed Afg, Iraq and Libya afterall. Again, people call me an Islam apologist for talking like this. But no one is willing to hear about the reality. Reality is the reality. Its not the truth, not the facts, not the opinions, not the religion, not left-right crap. Its the reality. And the reality is, our governments are letting these people in intentionally. Period.

By:
Injera
When: 19 Oct 16 15:55
BB - shouldn't laugh at that but I did!!

Today's headline in The Sun also decent:

Show us the Tooth. Grin
By:
saddo
When: 19 Oct 16 15:58
Jamesdean, Savile was protected to a large extent by his fame and charity work. Everyone in authority knew what was going on in Rotherham, but looked the other way because the rapists were Muslims, this is fact.
By:
dukeofpuke
When: 19 Oct 16 16:04
the flawed logic here is the fact we regard children as 16 and under thats ok for our way of life here

but the countries they are coming from at the age of 12 they act and live like adults

so the time they get here at 16 they have had 4 years living as an adult

but the left wing luvvies regard them as vulnerable children
By:
gresty241
When: 19 Oct 16 16:08
if only they were 16 years old or under we may have some sympathy but these so called children are 20+ and some possibly even 30+
By:
jamesdean
When: 19 Oct 16 16:09
What's your point saddo?

They all knew about Savile but let it go as you rightly say.
Are pedo Muslims worse than your standard English pedo?
By:
saddo
When: 19 Oct 16 16:16
Gangs of paedo Muslims in Rotherham and probably elsewhere were immune from Police action because of positive discrimination, they had a couple of goes at Savile, and there was only one of him.
By:
alun2005
When: 19 Oct 16 16:24
The organised paedo gangs of Rotherham, Rochdale and umpteen other UK towns and cities were of course far worse because they were RACISTS into the bargain, and racism is apparently the very worst crime in the modern book. (Unless of course white people are the victims of racism). The girls were targeted specifically because of their colour, and because the rapists knew they wouldn't be accused of racism by the spineless authorities, ludicrously terrified of being viewed as racist.

I somehow doubt that the atrocious paedo Savile operated on a racial basis.
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