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The Presidential race is over - American Politics is sick
The Presidential race is over - American Politics is sick
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Say what you will about Trump, he is not stupid. He is a smart man with a deep understanding of what stupid people want.
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It's worked on guinness2dear, geordie.
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trump is one of these people who have made a huge success out of over confidence........it was his father who started the empire.........trump then got the model wife, ivana whatever her name is was a serious looker when the don grabbed her p.............he mastered the art of max attention grabbing in the way kim kard has done and here is is.
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Ye can't even think up a decent comeback ye fecking tart.
I feel sorry for you and crabs kids. What a fecking life they must have.. |
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g2d seems to have had a humour by-pass
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Ye've been cowering all day because of the humiliation I dished on ye last night
Hahaha Ye really think people who were on that fred last night don't know what happened? What a deluded grass ye are. |
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Shut yer trap geordie ye know feck all and don't get involved.
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Ye don't even know which side people are on ye thick fcker!
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come on chaps shake hands no violence at this time of night
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Side? hahahahah
What is this a playground. Mind you with you, yes.. |
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Shake hands with a grassing coont. Really..
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Ye said I should get my mate Ibrahima Sonko to back me up when he was on yer side ye fkn eejit.
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Well actually i said yer other gang menber. And i said get him to put it up to make a coont out of you.
Ye can't even lie straight grass.. |
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If he was he'd have put it back up. He can't because Betty will admonish him. I KNOW.
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Have a look at MY thread G2D. He's not on my side. Are ye really that stupid?
How do ye know what Betty will do? Been on the hotline to her again have ye? |
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Getting back for a moment to the original subject of this thread, the profoundly depressing 2016 Race to the White House, let's not forget that the 2008 and 2012 renewals were also fully worthy of the description "American Politics is sick".
The liberal media (so vexed by Donald Trump in 2016) doesn't like to mention it but on both previous occasions the winning candidate clearly won by means of Racist Voting. If that's not disturbing I don't know what is, particularly when one reflects on "Racism" seemingly being the most important Crime in Modern Life. |
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alun2005 12 Oct 16 11:03
Getting back for a moment to the original subject of this thread, the profoundly depressing 2016 Race to the White House, let's not forget that the 2008 and 2012 renewals were also fully worthy of the description "American Politics is sick". The liberal media (so vexed by Donald Trump in 2016) doesn't like to mention it but on both previous occasions the winning candidate clearly won by means of Racist Voting. If that's not disturbing I don't know what is, particularly when one reflects on "Racism" seemingly being the most important Crime in Modern Life. I'll play along. In what way were the two previous occasions a result of 'racist voting? |
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they would complain that its mostly democrats voting for hilary and republicans for trump
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Dear me some of the right wing bar room bores would now like to call afro- americans voting for the Democrats racist , where does these people come from
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Empty vessels and all that
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I'll play along. In what way were the two previous occasions a result of 'racist voting?
Hope this helps. A staggering 95% of African-Americans (i.e. Americans) voted for Obama in 2008 . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2008#Voter_demographics In 2012 the percentage of that demographic voting for Obama was 93%. . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2012#Voter_demographics There are many other online sources but Wikipedia is as relevant as any others. Those percentages are completely off the charts. It is impossible to believe all those voters were casting their vote for Obama's policies. The number of black voters taking part in US elections for the first time in 2008 and 2012 was a very good thing, widely welcomed by all. No-one made any secret of the fact that they weren't registering to vote for McCain and/or Romney. Those votes were surely a major factor in electing Obama. Do we think it's a good thing for voters to elect a candidate though because of racial and/or religious reasons? Personally I don't. |
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Well if Donny were to be elected he will probably do so on the back of white voters almost exclusively,i think he will probably get less than 15 per cent of the Black vote, you have to ask yourself why this is?
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Good, you clearly agree with me.
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The answer being that he is hostile towards them and the GOP are hostile towards them
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The same with the Mexicans and Hispanics if he calls them rapists and drug dealers/users I don't think they are going to warm to him do you ?
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I wasn`t aware that Trump stood for election against Obama.
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is it possible that in every future election 95% of African Americans would vote for a black candidate, regardless of his or her policies? if the opportunity was there.
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i think he will probably get less than 15 per cent of the Black vote, you have to ask yourself why this is?
good to see you are increasing your predictions |
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yes is is possible, even likely? this is why democracy is not really about votes. it is impossible to have democracy unless people are of the same religion, and race and share the same fundamental beliefs.
democracy is essentially exclusive, not inclusive. |
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would it be logical for Black American voters to vote for Trump, given his policies. Yes it would imo
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Is voting democrat in the US similar in its way to voting for labour in Britain. yes in some ways black American and working class British voters may well be voting for a party that will be determined to purse policies that are against their interests.
It was the labour party that allowed mass immigration, thus pushing down wages and conditions for the very people that vote for them. very strange. |
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alun2005 12 Oct 16 12:12
A staggering 95% of African-Americans (i.e. Americans) voted for Obama in 2008 . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2008#Voter_demographics In 2012 the percentage of that demographic voting for Obama was 93%. . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2012#Voter_demographics Wiki works just fine. 2012 93% 2008 95% 2004 88% 2000 90% 1996 84% 1992 82% 1988 88% 1984 89% 1980 86% 1976 85% 1972 87% 1968 85% So, a long track-record of racistly voting for the Democratic party. The highest percentage of black votes for Republican candidates was the 15% achieved in 1968, by Richard 'Not-a-Crook' Nixon, and 1976, by Gerald 'Not-as-famous-as-his-wife' Ford. (Interestingly, 'black party affiliation', whatever that means, saw an increase from 4% Republican in 2008, to 16% in 2012, the highest figure in any of the years listed above.) Why did I stop at 1968, you may ask? 1964 94%. |
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last uk election suggests
Black: 67% Labour, 21% Conservative |
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Trump is radical, we do not have the chance in Britain to vote for someone like Trump. That`s why nothing will change. The referendum voted to leave the EU, but what will change in reality?
well if its up to the tories, and labour nothing will change. |
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ukip stood in last election
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ukip stood. however if eg black voters, or muslim voters, or any number of other working class voters insist on seeing UKIP as racist, and fail to see that UKIP could make their life better, and the country better then we have the same problem we are talking about.
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surely that is what the ukip party should be trying to convince them
ukip seem hell bent on attracting racists over long term stability |
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Obama has not turned out to be the messiah black America hoped for, in fact the living standards of the black working class has plummeted in the last 8 years. There are polls out there showing Trump's support is as much as 25% among black voters, although I'm sure Hillary fans will say they have been massaged. The Democrats are still bricking themselves that they will lose despite everything they have thrown at Trump, yesterday Obama even called on the Republicans to "officially" ditch Trump (which they cannot do anyway) because they are still worried. The world is entering one of those dangerous periods that occur every so often what with the Syrian problem, Clinton would never negotiate with Russia she despises them (despite the money she has had given for their foundation) and that is dangerous.
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now we have just had a referendum for change. People are not happy with immigration, they are not happy with being told what to do by any other power outside the sovereign power of the UK.
now lets see what changes in the next year or two. because there is no need for a prolonged period when nothing is done and nothing is decided. These issuses sre not complicated, they are simple...but nothing will happen. |
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the leave vote was for a variety of reasons and folk
did not have to list any reason they were just asked to vote now we have a new leader who may end up pleasing them, or pleasing the remainers we have no further say in the matter and fingers crossed she gets it right there will be no second chance it she gets it wrong its crazy |