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By:
Slicer
When: 16 Aug 16 15:57
So you do not equate threatening to kill having stated he had already killed with immediate danger!
By:
ebulGery
When: 16 Aug 16 15:59
I am lost a bit slicer, Dalian had already killed someone?

If you have a link?
By:
Slicer
When: 16 Aug 16 16:01
No- read the whole thread regarding what he had said to his father.
By:
ebulGery
When: 16 Aug 16 16:05
I see, but I see no need to kill Dalian Atkinson?

Why was he being tasered on the ground?

Dalian needed arresting and put in a prison or a psychiatric unit that was all.

He was not armed, why kill him?
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 16 Aug 16 16:11
you talk as though they deliberately murdered him
By:
Slicer
When: 16 Aug 16 16:12
The police don't KNOW FOR CERTAIN that ANYONE is unarmed until after the event!
By:
themightymac
When: 16 Aug 16 16:46
You can't reason with someone who is mentally ill and acting crazy and yelling threats. They probably reacted in fear of their own lives. It's a tragic event for all concerned.
By:
ebulGery
When: 16 Aug 16 20:52
Do you kill someone for being mentally ill?

Once he was down, what threat was he?

At the moment we probably need more information as you say Slicer.

I am not saying he was murdered BB, but he is now dead.

The taser is intended to disable not kill, once he was down it had done it's job.


He then went down 'like a lead balloon' after being hit by the Taser, an eyewitness said.


'Then he was Tasered and he fell to the floor. I heard the taser go off again a number out times, at least four or five, when he was on he ground.

‘Afterwards the two police officers starting kicking him around his body. I heard the Taser go off again a number out times, at least four or five, when he was on the ground.


Two eye witness statements, that do not look good to me.
By:
treetop
When: 16 Aug 16 20:59
Hindsight criticism is easy, it must be very nervy being in such a situation too. A horrible place to be for those two coppers now,they should have just let him keep on kicking the door down.
By:
ebulGery
When: 16 Aug 16 21:08
I accept that treetop.

My concerns are, after they have disabled Dalian, why did they continue using the taser?

The police are paid to do a difficult job.
By:
treetop
When: 16 Aug 16 22:27
A tense situation ,all keyed up and scared stiff yourself ? I suppose that is easy,though training has to help it must still be intensive emotion. An inquiry should cover it but I am sure the activists will demand blood.
By:
ebulGery
When: 16 Aug 16 23:21
It was tense treetop I agree.

I only demand the truth, not blood myself.

But a man is dead here, questions must be asked.

I would have thought ,once Dalian was down, immediate threat over. Why not call for backup and get him back to the station?

There is the charge of threatening behaviour, but a Doctor also needs to see Dalian.

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By:
Capt__F
When: 16 Aug 16 23:48
ebu


have you ever won any awards for talking ?
By:
ebulGery
When: 16 Aug 16 23:55
LaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
casemoney
When: 17 Aug 16 00:09
A horrible place to be for those two coppers now

Unheard of Large Black man off his Head and Two coppers try to take him out ,It does not happen
this was an on going Situation ,In any other Incident of this kind be at least 5 Van loads Arrive
Are they saying there was only 2 coppers present ?
By:
ebulGery
When: 17 Aug 16 00:49
Interesting point case

There is a lot of buck passing now, one suspect no one wanted to deal with  Dalian.

He was bankrupt, his life was in free fall.

It is not good enough.
By:
casemoney
When: 17 Aug 16 01:18
Seems Strange that 2 police officers would choose to deal with the situation on their own Sad
By:
ebulGery
When: 17 Aug 16 01:33
I agree case...If they needed support call for it....no idea???????
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