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vindaloo
07 Aug 16 11:15
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hi ive never used a vpn.
what is the best vpn to use to change my location within the uk?
and are not picked up by bookmakers sites
thanks

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By:
Kit-Kat-Dan
When: 07 Aug 16 11:20
Ghost is free and works well. Current version is 6.0 hut I've reverted to version 5.5 as it's easier to use.

You have to wait for a 'slot' but usually only 3 or 4 minutes.
By:
Kit-Kat-Dan
When: 07 Aug 16 11:21
hut = but
By:
vindaloo
When: 07 Aug 16 11:24
so do u just download in mate?
By:
Kit-Kat-Dan
When: 07 Aug 16 11:35
Yes, download and install. Then turn it on or off as you need it.
By:
vindaloo
When: 07 Aug 16 11:39
is it cyber ghost? is it worth paying for it says 5 times faster
By:
Kit-Kat-Dan
When: 07 Aug 16 11:45
Cyber ghost yes. I use it for download sites and find its speed ok but if speed is an issue then go for it.
By:
vindaloo
When: 07 Aug 16 11:46
cheers mate the paid version lets u choose many locations in the uk so prob best. cheers for your help
By:
Kit-Kat-Dan
When: 07 Aug 16 11:51
No worries,  hope it works for you.
By:
onthehoy
When: 07 Aug 16 12:53
I have been using Hidemyass for nearly a year with no problems. you can pay monthly(to try it out) or yearly, I just went straight for the 1 year option(cant remember cost but will have to look as subscription due soon)and I think you can have it on 3 devices, I currently use the one account on my tablet and laptop
I checked out several free and pay sites before I took the plunge as I knew nowt about them.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 07 Aug 16 15:20
Can anyone confirm they're actually effective for keeping a fresh bookmaker account open? I'd be concerned that the bigger bookies at least would know which ISP numbers are generated by VPNs, and hence restrict or ban your account on that basis.

Or are those fears groundless? 'Cos I don't want to waste access to a clean bank account now by not waiting for an opportunity later where I might have access to a clean router and ISP instead.
By:
dave1357
When: 07 Aug 16 19:22
You will have to disable flash as well to stop iesnare as this logs details about your computer and your vpn will be ineffective.

It is also worth noting that if gambling sites decide to withhold payment, the Gambling Commission won't do anything.  They won't even acknowledge you if you complain to them.
By:
the whizz kids
When: 07 Aug 16 21:11
I was using Hidemyass and never had any problems apart from not being able to get BBC iplayer when abroad.

Anyone know of a good one to get the iplayer.
By:
vindaloo
When: 07 Aug 16 21:45
Dave I use privacy badger to block iesnare. Can't understand why u mention bookmakers withholding payments
By:
vindaloo
When: 07 Aug 16 21:48
Screaming I will report back after a month. I have been betting for a living for around 16 years, get through on average 120 accounts a year. I am finding now that my location is bringing unwanted attention to my accounts. I just wanted to make things a bit more random and keep me under the radar
By:
vindaloo
When: 07 Aug 16 21:50
Onthehoy. Which accounts do u use the vpn on? Does this provide a new ip and a location every day? Does it have any performance issues as I need to use the sites quite rapid

Thanks for replies
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 08 Aug 16 01:12
Thanks for the replies.

Getting access to a fresh Bet365 account is the holy grail of course. The problem is that their site cunningly runs on Adobe Flash, so disabling Flash as a means of disguising yourself would be pointless. One way around that might be to use their iPhone app, since my understanding is that the iPhone does not support Flash. Presumably the Bet365 iPhone app runs completely differently from the standard site.

I'm still reluctant to go down the VPN route, as surely the bigger firms, who go to so much trouble to track unwanted punters, must know most of the ISP addresses generated by VPNs, and simply either deny access to their site or close users down, should they detect one of these ISP addresses.

Unfortunately I have a lousy mobile signal at home, but sitting upstairs by the window using an iPhone with the wifi turned off might be the most reliable means of operating a new account.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 08 Aug 16 01:13
That's an iPhone previously unused for the bookmaker in question of course.
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 08 Aug 16 10:39
if its new ip address your after well isps renew quite often.
usually closing the wan connection will re new the ip address....not all isps are the same though.

you can check your router or a website to check your ip address.

best also to use a cleaner to wipe down after each browser sesson...clean cookies.
By:
vindaloo
When: 08 Aug 16 11:55
the ghost also blocks all third party cookies.
using it this morning seem to be working great. no performance issues
By:
vindaloo
When: 08 Aug 16 11:56
screaming you don't need to disable flash to block the ie snare and third party cookies. using privacy badger and ghost blocks them all
By:
onthehoy
When: 08 Aug 16 14:59
Vindaloo, sorry about late reply, I have a problem with my laptop!!! - I might have to ask the expert chitchatters for help

I have logged into most bookies using the VPN  although lately i have logged in and placed bets on Baldy, Corrralll, LAddies, Purple, I am only a small bettor but have never had problems when making withdrawls

The wizz kids, on Hidemyass I have found I can use iplayer by conecting to the "Australia Sydney-virtual uk" connection, that is the only connection I have found to work with iplayer.
By:
Knight Commander
When: 08 Aug 16 15:15
Anybody know a cheap (or free) VPN which would let you appear to be logging-in to Betfair from down under?
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 08 Aug 16 16:20
Ah ...  I like your thinking, Knight Commander. That would be an (old) sight for sore eyes ...
By:
Knight Commander
When: 08 Aug 16 17:01
Still hoping Wink
By:
the whizz kids
When: 08 Aug 16 17:05

Aug 8, 2016 -- 2:59PM, onthehoy wrote:


Vindaloo, sorry about late reply, I have a problem with my laptop!!! - I might have to ask the expert chitchatters for helpI have logged into most bookies using the VPN  although lately i have logged in and placed bets on Baldy, Corrralll, LAddies, Purple, I am only a small bettor but have never had problems when making withdrawlsThe wizz kids, on Hidemyass I have found I can use iplayer by conecting to the "Australia Sydney-virtual uk" connection, that is the only connection I have found to work with iplayer.


Cheers mate.Wink

By:
dave1357
When: 08 Aug 16 17:58

Aug 7, 2016 -- 9:45PM, vindaloo wrote:


Dave I use privacy badger to block iesnare. Can't understand why u mention bookmakers withholding payments


From the T@C of a bookmaker

reserves the right, in its sole discretion, to void any winnings and forfeit any balance in your betting account...if...we identify you have disguised, or interfered, or taken steps to disguise or interfere, in any way with the IP address of any Device used to access our Site (such as using a Virtual Private Network “VPN”)

By:
Gin
When: 08 Aug 16 18:53
screaming from beneaththewaves 08 Aug 16 01:12 Joined: 30 Jan 05 | Topic/replies: 9,076 | Blogger: screaming from beneaththewaves's blog
Thanks for the replies.

Unfortunately I have a lousy mobile signal at home, but sitting upstairs by the window using an iPhone with the wifi turned off might be the most reliable means of operating a new account.



I haven't used these myself but may be of interest to you?

http://www.alphr.com/technology/5298/mobile-signal-boosters-whats-legal
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 09 Aug 16 00:08
Thanks for that, Gin. The problem with signal boosters is that you need the outdoor antenna located somewhere with a decent signal, which would be up a tree in the orchard next door in my case. I do get a 3G signal indoors with the phone lying flat on the the bedroom window window ledge, but it's just one bar. That's good enough to use a bookmaker's website up there, but not good enough to be boosted to other locations in the house. It doesn't help that the walls of the house are a couple of feet thick.

If the owner of the bank account which I intend using had a home address near me, then I'd simply buy a new router and laptop and use those. But even though ISP addresses from home broadband suppliers are fairly fluid once you turn your router off and back on again, they all give away your rough location, which in my case is 200 miles from the address to which I'd want to register a new bookmaker account.

ISP addresses from 3G or 4G services, on the other hand, are anonymous (at least in the case of EE they are - wherever you log on, the ISP address shows up as a London one).
By:
Gin
When: 09 Aug 16 11:55
No worries.

Although I haven't used them, I thought I had read that they can turn a poor signal into a much better one but from what you are saying that is not the case.

On the subject of ISP addresses changing wen you restart your router - i'm not sure that is the case with all suppliers. I know that Virgin Media use to use static IP addresses but am not sure if that is still the case (although they stated that they weren't static but "sticky" which I think means that they could change them if they wanted to but generally didn't).

Hope you find a solution.
By:
vindaloo
When: 09 Aug 16 14:18
DAVE1357  which bookmakers have that in their terms?

Update: cannot log into 365 on a vpn
By:
dave1357
When: 09 Aug 16 15:02
That one was 118
By:
CJ70
When: 09 Aug 16 15:03

Aug 9, 2016 -- 2:18PM, vindaloo wrote:


DAVE1357  which bookmakers have that in their terms?Update: cannot log into 365 on a vpn


365 have blocked most common VPN's since the beginning of the year. You'll need to find an obscure paid for one.

VPN's don't really make a difference to the length an account lasts in my experience anyway.

By:
dave1357
When: 09 Aug 16 15:11
*that bookie was 188
By:
vindaloo
When: 09 Aug 16 15:46
ye they are pains in the arse mate, they want your dna to withdraw and are basically crooks and have some unreal t and c like turning over your deposit once before withdrawal I'm sure none of the main books haven't got this in their t and c
By:
vindaloo
When: 09 Aug 16 15:47
cj its my location that the books are picking up on. I'm going thru that many accounts
By:
CJ70
When: 09 Aug 16 15:53

Aug 9, 2016 -- 3:47PM, vindaloo wrote:


cj its my location that the books are picking up on. I'm going thru that many accounts


Are you using the same source for each account?

I'd be inclined to try a virtual machine before a VPN.

By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 09 Aug 16 16:10
Gin, I think websites with click-throughs to firms selling signal boosters like to give the impression that one bar at the window can somehow magically be boosted to four bars in the living room. But if you get down to the operating instructions, the reality is that they can ensure that four bars on the roof remains as four bars, rather than one bar, in the living room. As long as you climb on the roof and fix the equipment there, of course.

They seem to be a bit like hearing aids, in that they're only effective if you're not really that hard of hearing anyway.
By:
vindaloo
When: 09 Aug 16 19:23
cj whats a virtual machine?
By:
Stow_judge
When: 09 Aug 16 19:30
Using software like virtual box, you can create a virtual pc on your pc that can run a completely different operating system. The virtual pc exists on a drive on your pc and can be moved to other pcs. For instance, I am running windows 7 and have a virtual pc running windows XP. I have lot's of Access 2000 databases that I run on my virtual PC. They run well on Windows XP, but do not run well on Windows 7.
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