Leadsom and Mothergate!

The Mail is following Murdoch - tbf she will probably unravel.  Gove has a lot to answer for.  Maybe May has hidden depths?  Sigh.

Andrea Leadsom has said being a mother makes her a better choice for Prime Minister than Theresa May because it gives her a “very real stake” in Britain’s future prosperity.

In highly personal remarks, the mother of three told The Times newspaper she was sure the Home Secretary must be "really sad" not to have children as she suggested that her motherhood status meant she had more invested in the future than her leadership rival.

"Genuinely I feel that being a mum means you have a very real stake in the future of our country," Mrs Leadsom said.

She went onto say Mrs May "possibly has nieces, nephews, lots of people. But I have children who are going to have children who will be directly party of what happens next."

The last thing this overcrowded country needs is breeders.

Truly appalling and the exact opposite of what I said. I am disgusted.

https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/751521657215393792 …
10:41 PM - 8 Jul 2016



@thetimes @RSylvesterTimes this is the worst gutter journalism I've ever seen. I am so angry - I can't believe this. How could you?

11:13 PM - 8 Jul 2016


twitter on meltdown

The bitch who stuck the knife in...

Rachel Sylvester: Privately educated close confidante of Britain’s most influential active Europhile, Peter Mandelson. Accompanied Mandelson on a trip to Disney in America during his work planning the disastrous Millennium Exhibition. Later denied allegations of tipping Mandelson off about revelations concerning him in a biography by the respected political journalist Paul Routledge. An advanced proof of Routledge’s book was mistakenly delivered to Sylvester’s Westminster office and was later passed on to him with the envelope containing it having been opened.

Daily Mail --hypocrites

The two leaders of the Scottish National Party want to break up the Union because they have no children and do not understand families, it has been claimed.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2754216/Childless-SNP-chiefs-no-feel...
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Does seem to be an agenda to get mrs Leadsom, all very predictable and sad.

MATT is good today

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/matt//

Is there not a recording of what she said so how is she denying it?

I have not heard the supposed recording but if it's true she has no comeback and whatever way you look at it if she did say that it's a low blow towards May and her partner seen as they could not have children.

sky news played recording an she said it

Well then i have no sympathy for her, that's a proper cuntish thing to say with May and her partners circumstances

She never said it gave her the edge over May because she was a Mother. Even the journalist admitted that on the BBC this morning. That was the way the Times spun it.Whats wrong with being a mother?  They are trying to make motherhood the new black/immigrant... You must never mention it.

There is nothing wrong with being a mother, why is that an issue?

I missed where Theresa May said she should be PM over Leadsom as she has no children

Its only to be expected this sort of nonsense from the spivs , you now have the filth of Murdoch and dacre squabbling about who should be PM , and next few weeks 130,000 spiv members choosing one of them after all the plotting, lying and backstabbing , what a truly horrible crew the Spivs are.

Mellor putting the boot in now on LBC.Grass roots Conservative Party  members will see straight through this and stick two fingers up to the establishment ... Just like they did in Camerons referendum.

It’s terrible how people go around smearing politicians by accurately reporting what they say.

You can't defend Leadsom. Stupid thing to say - she's been found out. Don't blame the reporter or the newspaper.

See straight through you say Goonthen?


Rachel Sylvester: "Do you feel like a mum in politics?"

Andrea Leadsom: "Yes. So...

RS: "Why and how?"

AL: "So really carefully because I am sure, I don't really know Theresa very well but I am sure she will be really really sad she doesn't have children so I don't want this to be 'Andrea has children, Theresa hasn't' because I think that would be really horrible.

"But genuinely I feel being a mum means you have a very real stake in the future of our country, a tangible stake.

"She possibly has nieces, nephews, lots of people, but I have children, who are going to have children, who will directly be a part of what happens next.
"So it really keeps you focused on 'what are you really saying?'. Because what it means is you don't want a downturn but 'never mind, let's look ahead to the ten years', hence it will all be fine. My children will be starting their lives in that next ten years so I have a real stake in the next year, the next two."

It is not a problem. All fertile or previously fertile females will look down on May. It is nature's way.
The BBC has it in for Leadsom because she does not agree with p**f weddings. Their agenda might just backfire and as for the impotent Stinker Murdoch he is a laughing stock.

Only read key parts of this story, not up to speed on it, so she just denied saying what she actually said (?) Or it was a set-up and she didn't mean it as reported.

Difficult to deny it if those are her words on the taped recording, and in the published version if those quotes are exactly what she said, only couple of days into the leadership campaign and she has screwed up horribly.

"Or it was a set-up and she didn't mean it as reported"
This.
Eboue. That is only part of the transcript.

The recording is here - take a listen - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36752865

Can't defend that surely?

At this rate Theresa May won't have to campaign at all, just let Leadsom go & sink herself.

Is it the full one hour interview before I click on the link?

Exactly HD2. Media manipulation at its finest. Now everyone is talking about this rather than Theresa Mays abysmal record on immigration in 6 yrs at the Home Office. Territory just nailed in on LBC.

I understand things can get misreported.

But not in this case - she's been found out and she's bang to rights.

Media manipulation?

The reporter asks a question.

The interviewee answers it then when the piece goes to press gets upset.


How in the name of Christ is that media manipulation?

Oh dear.

The worst decision made this century was  Germany's opening of its borders to everyone.

It was taken so a politician could feel good about herself,could hold her head high.

It was taken by the childless Angela Merkel.

Not sure which is more of a low blow: trying to smear your opponent for not having children or trying to deny that is what you did.

She's been found out for what she is and there's people out there that want her to lead this bloody country!

She's been found out to be a Mother? Oh dear.

Do you not think her comments were spiteful?

And is it not concerning that she blames the media for stitching her up when all they've done is accurately report her interview?

Oh dear, what a nose-dive. She's just taken herself from low credibility to zero. Looks like she'll be having plenty of time to spend with her children in the future. Theresa May must be loving this.

Her comments were not spiteful they were accurate.

She was lead into the topic by the interviewer,she didnt make it an issue just responded in a refreshingly honest way.

Angela Merkel
Ted Heath.

there was argument before she said it about mays lack of kids ( it even cropped up on this forum)

so leadsom gets to try the argument then when it bites her back she claims its not what she meant

merkel will be looking forward to the negotiations

Interestingly, both Salmond and Sturgeon have no children, their only legacy will be if they get independence for Scotland or not. That's been the entire focus of their miserable lives, one reason they are so obsessed. Which is why they'll  push to the bitter end even if it was disasterous, they've (thankfully) nobody coming after them to suffer the consequences.

A bit like hitler and his scorched earth policy for Germany, but hitler could see at least see over his belly to count his bollocks. (And put peanut butter on for Blondi to lick off).

Most politicians say they are in it to serve the community. It appears that many of them have other priorities.

leadsom was a remainer when it suited,

seems to me that she might be a sarah palin type

she is barren..
accursed, let no
man vote for her.
lest she press
the red button
and send us to oblivion.
think of the children.

it comes down to a simple test..
what one looks better in the buff?

vote Leadsom.

Being a mother is a woman's evolutionary role...in fact they want children by instinct.

This has been slightly misrepresented, I don't think it was meant as a dig against barren women or women who choose

not to have children.

She is ok with me.

I thought you were looking forward to Armageddon zorro.

Andrea the most feminine from a dodgy bunch.. Terence May, Nicolas Sturgeon, Rufus Davison and Andrew Eagle.

Cowandgate

Ambrosia Rudd?

Lets get into the meat n bones of this matter.......


Which candidate is most likely to legalzie the weed?

She's either conniving and spiteful for trying to get one over her opponent in this way or she's pig-sh!t thick for not realising how her words would look once written down.



Or maybe both.

In a month of seismic political events this must rank as the biggest non story ever.

To think The Times led with this story above the carnage in Dallas!

Trump has made a lot of gaffs and controversial statements in his race to be leader of the republicans...

It didnt do him any harm.

I hope Leadsom sticks it up the BBC if she becomes Prime Minister. I , for one , am sick to death of hearing about Gays, lesbians , transvestites and sex change merchants on R4.

Margaret Thatcher: 2 children
Iosif Stalin: 3 children
Tony Blair: 4 children
Genghis Khan: hundreds of children

There are more Tory members that voted Leave than not i believe.

The establishment are once again attempting to win a campaign through smear or fear.

Those Leave members will see through all this BBC guff.

BBC guff what paranoid nonsense when will the spivs stop the delusion that the bbc is a subversive left wing organization

Go to the war memorial in your town. Look at the names and look at their ages.

Many of them were teenagers. Statistically, the majority of men who laid down their lives for this country were not yet fathers and never would be.

Anyone who thinks that being a "mum" means you have more of a stake in the future of Britain than those brave young men needs a brain transplant.

Hitler - no children

Marie Antoinette - 4 children

She said it.

TheBetterBettor, there's more than enough evidence that Hitler fathered a child with a French peasant girl during the First World War. When old Adolf started to make a few quid from his books and paintings, she bought a house.

Later, during the second half when France was occupied, SS officers paid her a visit every month and then she paid the grocer's bill.

It seems that one ball is adequate.

Political correctness gone mad.

Of course anyone who has kids has a greater stake in the future.....but having kids or not doesn't effect anyone's ability to do the job.

I think she was just trying to emphasise with those women who do have children and their problems.

The world does not just consist of Gays, lesbians , transvestites and sex change merchants .

I hope it is not considered a crime that people are not LGBT.

Having anybody who can actually do the job will be a change

What the hell have gays got to do with anything? She took a cheap shot at someone who has been unable to have kids by saying it made her less equipped to do the job.

She was going on about this through the referendum debates. Staring the camera with that fixed rictus grin and reminding everyone every couple of minutes that "she's a mother". As if she's as surprised as we are that someone would dip their wick there. Twice.


Comes across as slightly unhinged to me.


The next PM is going to be one of the most important in our history. She'll be taking the job while the pound is tanking, we're facing a possible employment crisis as firms are threatening to leave, we're going to face a migrant influx if anything as anyone thinking about it knows they've got 2 years max to get in and we have to negotiate a host of new trade and diplomatic deals despite the fact we've got next to no experts in these areas as they've been collectively bargained through the EU for a generation. And some are thinking of giving the job to a woman who seems to be amazed she has kids, and is appalled that her words have been written exactly as they were said and not the complete opposite as she lied.

BBC guff what paranoid nonsense when will the spivs stop the delusion that the bbc is a subversive left wing organization


This is not about if the BBC is left wing anxious, and once you give your head a wobble you will think again.

The BBC is pro EU, they want Theresa May - nowt to do with left or right.

PP.The Times article was aimed at similarly easily influenced idiots such as yourself and the clown further up the thread  posting a small fragment of the transcript.
Now for a moment step out of your media polluted comfort zone and imagine the following. AL was offered a chance to give her vision of a post Brexit UK. For well over an hour she gave that vision.Throughout she was constantly asked about how being a mother made her different as a candidate to TM ... Go back to the above transcript and view the journalist asking her "first"  question. Now imagine a couple of seconds before that the journalist for the umpteenth time asking "How do you think your role as a mother makes you any different to Theresa May"? Then take the perfectly honest and straightforward answer given. You might also wish to reflect on the fact that none of her opinions and ideas for a post brexit UK warrant a mention. The journalist had only one brief. Nail her on motherhood. The article was probably written before the interview. Tebbit nailed this on LBC earlier today.

Whole lot of nailing going on.

"Baby On Board" sticker on 10 Downing Street upcoming.

Been there since Thatcher harboured the paedophile!

Let us hope so



reminding everyone every couple of minutes that "she's a mother".

I don't think she did, tells me more about you PP than her.

She was trying to emphasise with everybody people that is all.

People can interpret anything that is said anyway they want. I do not believe it was anti LGBT, but if people want to take it that way

that is their choice. I do not.

Haven't read the Times but have listened to the interview.

Fact is she wasn't misquoted at all and then hilariously tried to claim she'd actually said the opposite which, like much of her cv, was a load of horsesh!t.

She's the one who's been mentioning that she was a mother all through the referendum so it's not ridiculous to 're-visit that theme. If she thought it wasn't relevant why bring it up so often in the last couple of months? It's legitimate to then ask what she thinks the difference is with someone without children.

And, at the end of the day, if she's so daft she got led up the garden path here then it doesn't bode well for her skills in negotiating the best deal for the country. At best she was naive in the extreme. I actually think she knew exactly what she said and actually thought in some way, some people might think it would make the remotsst difference. But then, given the whole quit campaign was a tissue of fast unravelling lies she maybe thinks it's an acceptable tactic.

erm...my Let us hope so...was for 'baby on board'

I do hope the disgusting smear machine in Downing Street that appears to have turned its guns on AL get a nasty surprise from the shires membership who are by no means certain to endorse TM.

Correct treetop . They're by no means as easily fooled as some of the posters on here who are basing opions on a short  snippet  fed to them by the media.

Amusing that all the cries of democracy, democracy gave now died down. We're now looming at a few hundred torts wondering who'll serve their interests best. Shamocracy.

Jesus phone.

Have
Looking
Toffs.

Pineapple. Your fall from the tree appears to have been a long and arduous one. I wish you well in your recovery.

Goonthen, your willingness to blithely accept the spoonfed crap and your wish to blame a journalist for asking probing questions and accurately reporting the responses marks you out as a true quitter. Oh for your world where your politicians are given nice under arm deliveries that can never be challenged.

Probing questions ? it was from the gutter.

Me thinks the pineapple is crushed.

Boo hoo me for the capacity of critical thought.

Let's just pretend she didn't say it. And then pretend she didn't come out and pretend she'd been misquoted on her "honest, straightforward answer"*. Pretend she didn't say she'd said the opposite which wasn't true at all. Let's pretend the article "was written before the interview"*.


*quotes from some poor mouth breathing whopper above.

You have no thought. Critical or otherwise. You are spouting what you've been fed. Like most remainers you like lack vision and initiative. You dislike change and are comfortable with the status quo. The more you speak the thicker you appear. Stop while you're losing old fruit.

I'm all for change and the new. New places, friends, cultures. I'd actually be amused by Loathsome getting the gig. She doesn't seem the sharpest so more chance she'll balls it up and we may get a chance to ctrl-alt-del it. Like most quitters you seem to like her purely on the basis she flipped and decided to join the take our country back brigade when she could see how good it could be for her. If she'd been a remainer it'd be 1.01 you'd be denigrating her rather than trying to sweep her latest embarrassment under the carpet. A bit pathetic really.

I agree. You are.

Meaningless squabble between two old biffers, fuelled by the press for public entertainment.
Likely to be higher profile incidents down at the bingo.

Two old biffers? How dare you refer to Pineapple and I in such terms!

According to Theresa May, what 'we' need in the Tory (and therefore, National) leadership race is 'proven leadership experience'.

I agree

Which sort of begs the question, where was she during the recent Referendum dust-up?

Organising 'Remain Coffee Mornings' is my guess.

somebody had to run the government whilst the toffs were
sqabbling over europe

Good news that this lightweight & loony tune has finally realised she's completely out of her depth.

She's spared us all 2 more months of her brainless nonsense.

Unlikely headlines in tomorrows newspapers....

'Mother Theresa'

She has behaved impecably,realising it wasn't going to happen,she has stood aside for the benefit of UK plc instead of dragging it out for another two months. How odd,an MP with quality for a change ?

Yep, great quality.


Tries to stab her rival in the back, refuses to sign a pledge for a clean campaign, release only one tax return and no more and then mysteriously decides to throw the towel in before any more of her past is raked over.



Welling up here at the dignity of it all.

She has shown a rare quality to leave the field at her own timing instead of having to be dragged screaming and hysterical like so many other MP's when they have been found wanting,an awesome girl,she deserves a good post in cabinet now.

Minister for Mothers surely.



(has anyone actually checked she has any kids by the way. Can't be too sure with this one.)

Unlike your cuckolded bitter self she will have proof.

well thank god she can prove one thing eh.





Now just the rest of the cv to tidy up.

amazing they think they can continue to get away with the lies

The journalist who prevented a hard brexit

Loathsome is still loathsome, always has been, she got her nickname for very good reason. Leader of the House & committed brexiteer said she was "Staying in Government because there’s more work to be done to get Brexit deal the Prime Minister wants" So she stays with a committed remainer to make sure the remainer deal gets done. Get the drift? Brexiteer my arris. Filthy coniving blow ass mistress of deceit! The two women i would lest want packing my lunch in the whole world of lunch packing; sat next to each other in the House while Corbyn fiddles his fiddle. Hey presto! Bedlam