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While all our instincts fool us to believing we are definitely remaining, the polls indicate it's near Evens each of two.
So, we are able to bet leave at 3.95. Why aren't YOU following the evidence in front of you and smashing into it?
How often are we able to bet an even money chance at 3.95?
I think there is still time for an odds swing to ca 4/7 7/4, so a decent trading opportunity should be there at least.
So, we are able to bet leave at 3.95. Why aren't YOU following the evidence in front of you and smashing into it?
How often are we able to bet an even money chance at 3.95?
I think there is still time for an odds swing to ca 4/7 7/4, so a decent trading opportunity should be there at least.
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No
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It's been a value bet for ages.
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It does look good value for the in play market.
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Plenty of good arguments on here for getting out with nothing of any consequence offered for staying.
Same on the tv debates with the stayers resorting to personal abuse as their only weapon. Looks like the remainers are faltering so yep could be as you say the best bet for some time. |
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The North east have a history of getting the count in first.....and they will be more leave than remain.
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Had a small bet at 3.2, then another one at 3.9. No appetite on my part for continuing to follow the prices out. Just one way this market is going, with only news which causes the price to drift having any effect.
I mean, now they've got the evidence to prove that shooting an MP boosts share prices, this is not a market I feel like second-guessing. |
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4.2 now, I think a good bet would be back at 4.2 with putting a lay in at 3.2, thus leaving a free even money bet if the leave market wins.
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Buy the rumour sell the fact.
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Exactly.
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If you back at 4.2 and put in a lay at 3.2, you're much more likely either simply to lose your stake or to give away 2/3 of your profit.
I'd rather have a bet on Leave with a stake you're comfortable to lose and just let it run. |
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TheBetterBettor 22 Jun 16 09:35 Joined: 10 Jan 12 | Topic/replies: 7,699 | Blogger: TheBetterBettor's blog
The North east have a history of getting the count in first.....and they will be more leave than remain. When will I find out how my area voted? 4am, Wales (22 counting areas) 4am, Northern Ireland (18 counting areas) 5am, North East (12 counting areas) 5am, Scotland (17 counting areas) 5am, London (33 counting areas) 5am, Yorkshire & Humber (21 counting areas) 6am, West Midlands (30 counting areas 6.30am, East Midlands (40 counting areas) 6.30am, South West (38 counting areas) 7am, Eastern (46 counting areas) 7am, North West (39 counting areas) 7am, South Eastern (68 counting areas) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/20/when-are-the-eu-referendum-results-what-time-will-we-know-the-wi/ |
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Sadly, no.
The playing field is not level. I'm surprised the odds are still relatively close. |
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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/eu-referendum-results-be-announced-regional-declaration-times-in-time-order_uk_5767d0b6e4b01fb65863c73a
Declaration Times For Each Local Counting Area In Chronological Order (See Alphabetical List Here) Counting Officer Region Count completion time Foyle Northern Ireland 12.30am Sunderland North East 12.30am Wandsworth London 12.30am City of London London 12.45am Hartlepool North East 1.00 -1.30am Newcastle upon Tyne North East 1.00am Oldham North West 1.00am Swindon South West 1.00am West Tyrone Northern Ireland 1.00am Belfast East Northern Ireland 1.15am Belfast South Northern Ireland 1.15am Belfast West Northern Ireland 1.15am Islington London 1.30-3.00am Belfast North Northern Ireland 1.30am Eilean Siar Scotland 1.30am Isles of Scilly South West 1.30am Lagan Valley Northern Ireland 1.30am Merthyr Tydfil Wales 1.30am North Down Northern Ireland 1.30am North Hertfordshire Eastern 1.30am Salford North West 1.30am Stirling Scotland 1.30am Stockport North West 1.30am Strangford Northern Ireland 1.30am Wigan North West 1.30am Denbighshire Wales 1.45am Basildon Eastern 2.00am Blaenau Gwent Wales 2.00am Clackmannanshire Scotland 2.00am Dover South Eastern 2.00am Ealing London 2.00am Hart South Eastern 2.00am Ipswich Eastern 2.00am Malvern Hills West Midlands 2.00am Neath Port Talbot Wales 2.00am North Antrim Northern Ireland 2.00am North Tyneside North East 2.00am North Warwickshire West Midlands 2.00am Nuneaton and Bedworth West Midlands 2.00am Oxford South Eastern 2.00am Richmondshire Yorkshire & Humber 2.00am Sandwell West Midlands 2.00am Shetland Islands Scotland 2.00am South Lanarkshire Scotland 2.00am South Norfolk Eastern 2.00am South Tyneside North East 2.00am Tamworth West Midlands 2.00am Upper Bann Northern Ireland 2.00am Westminster London 2.00am Wrexham Wales 2.00am Gibraltar South West 2.00am (Gibraltar time) East Ayrshire Scotland 2.15am Falkirk Scotland 2.30 - 3.00am Castle Point Eastern 2.30 am Merton London 2.30 am Wellingborough East Midlands 2.30- 3.00am Oadby & Wigston East Midlands 2.30-3.00am Angus Scotland 2.30am Barking & Dagenham London 2.30am Barrow-in-Furness North West 2.30am Broxbourne Eastern 2.30am Caerphilly Wales 2.30am Conwy Wales 2.30am Crawley South Eastern 2.30am Darlington North East 2.30am Dundee City Scotland 2.30am East Antrim Northern Ireland 2.30am Harlow Eastern 2.30am Havant South Eastern 2.30am Hertsmere Eastern 2.30am High Peak East Midlands 2.30am Hyndburn North West 2.30am Isle of Anglesey Wales 2.30am Lambeth London 2.30am Lincoln East Midlands 2.30am North Dorset South West 2.30am North Lanarkshire Scotland 2.30am Ribble Valley North West 2.30am Rugby West Midlands 2.30am Rushmoor South Eastern 2.30am South Antrim Northern Ireland 2.30am South Lakeland North West 2.30am St. Helens North West 2.30am Staffordshire Moorlands West Midlands 2.30am Swansea Wales 2.30am Woking South Eastern 2.30am Watford Eastern 3-.00-4.00am Corby East Midlands 3:30- 4.00am Hammersmith & Fulham London 3.00-3.30am Sutton London 3.00-3.30am Tandridge South Eastern 3.00-3.30am Telford & Wrekin West Midlands 3.00-3.30am Basingstoke & Deane South Eastern 3.00-4.00am Gateshead North East 3.00-4.00am Harrow London 3.00-4.00am Thurrock Eastern 3.00-4.00am Tower Hamlets London 3.00-4.00am Tunbridge Wells South Eastern 3.00-4.00am Worcester West Midlands 3.00-4.00am Babergh Eastern 3.00am Barnsley Yorkshire & Humber 3.00am Bolton North West 3.00am Boston East Midlands 3.00am Bracknell Forest South Eastern 3.00am Bridgend Wales 3.00am Bury North West 3.00am Cambridge Eastern 3.00am Camden London 3.00am Cannock Chase West Midlands 3.00am Charnwood East Midlands 3.00am Chelmsford Eastern 3.00am Chesterfield East Midlands 3.00am Chorley North West 3.00am Colchester Eastern 3.00am Copeland North West 3.00am Dacorum Eastern 3.00am Durham North East 3.00am East Londonderry Northern Ireland 3.00am East Lothian Scotland 3.00am East Renfrewshire Scotland 3.00am Eastleigh South Eastern 3.00am Enfield London 3.00am Epsom and Ewell South Eastern 3.00am Exeter South West 3.00am Fylde North West 3.00am Gosport South Eastern 3.00am Gwynedd Wales 3.00am Haringey London 3.00am Hastings South Eastern 3.00am Inverclyde Scotland 3.00am Knowsley North West 3.00am Maidstone South Eastern 3.00am Mid Suffolk Eastern 3.00am Midlothian Scotland 3.00am Milton-Keynes South Eastern 3.00am Monmouthshire Wales 3.00am Moray Scotland 3.00am New Forest South Eastern 3.00am Newham London 3.00am North Ayrshire Scotland 3.00am North Devon South West 3.00am North East Lincolnshire Yorkshire & Humber 3.00am North West Leicestershire East Midlands 3.00am Orkney Islands Scotland 3.00am Pendle North West 3.00am Perth and Kinross Scotland 3.00am Peterborough Eastern 3.00am Reading South Eastern 3.00am Renfrewshire Scotland 3.00am Rochdale North West 3.00am Runnymede South Eastern 3.00am Sedgemoor South West 3.00am Shepway South Eastern 3.00am South Bucks South Eastern 3.00am Southend-on-Sea Eastern 3.00am Southwark London 3.00am St Albans Eastern 3.00am Stevenage Eastern 3.00am Stratford-on-Avon West Midlands 3.00am Thanet South Eastern 3.00am Torbay South West 3.00am Torfaen Wales 3.00am Trafford North West 3.00am Uttlesford Eastern 3.00am Warwick West Midlands 3.00am West Berkshire South Eastern 3.00am West Dunbartonshire Scotland 3.00am West Oxfordshire South Eastern 3.00am West Somerset South West 3.00am Weymouth South West 3.00am Wokingham South Eastern 3.00am Wycombe South Eastern 3.00am Wyre North West 3.00am Fife Scotland 3.30-4.00am East Dunbartonshire Scotland 3.30-4.30am Aberdeen City Scotland 3.30am Barnet London 3.30am Bournemouth South West 3.30am Brent London 3.30am Burnley North West 3.30am Carlisle North West 3.30am Carmarthenshire Wales 3.30am Cheltenham South West 3.30am Dartford South Eastern 3.30am Dudley West Midlands 3.30am Dumfries & Galloway Scotland 3.30am Edinburgh, City of Scotland 3.30am Epping Forest Eastern 3.30am Erewash East Midlands 3.30am Fermanagh and South Tyron eNorthern Ireland 3.30am Flintshire Wales 3.30am Forest of Dean South West 3.30am Gedling East Midlands 3.30am Greenwich London 3.30am Halton North West 3.30am King’s Lynn & West Norfolk Eastern 3.30am Kingston upon Hull Yorkshire & Humber 3.30am Lancaster North West 3.30am Melton East Midlands 3.30am Newark and Sherwood East Midlands 3.30am Newport Wales 3.30am Newry and Armagh Northern Ireland 3.30am Portsmouth South Eastern 3.30am Powys Wales 3.30am Preston North West 3.30am Purbeck South West 3.30am Redbridge London 3.30am Redcar & Cleveland North East 3.30am Rhondda Cynon Taf Wales 3.30am Rochford Eastern 3.30am Rossendale North West 3.30am Scarborough Yorkshire & Humber 3.30am South Derbyshire East Midlands 3.30am South Down Northern Ireland 3.30am South Hams South West 3.30am South Somerset South West 3.30am Suffolk Coastal Eastern 3.30am Surrey Heath South Eastern 3.30am Taunton Deane South West 3.30am Three Rivers Eastern 3.30am Walsall West Midlands 3.30am West Lothian Scotland 3.30am Ashfield East Midlands 4.00-5.00am Bassetlaw East Midlands 4.00-5.00am Eden North West 4.00-5.00am Middlesbrough North East 4.00-5.00am Northumberland North East 4.00-5.00am Torridge South West 4.00-6.00am Derbyshire Dales East Midlands 4.00-7.00am Allerdale North West 4.00am Argyll & Bute Scotland 4.00am Ashford South Eastern 4.00am Bedford Eastern 4.00am Birmingham West Midlands 4.00am Blackburn North West 4.00am Blackpool North West 4.00am Bolsover East Midlands 4.00am Breckland Eastern 4.00am Brentwood Eastern 4.00am Brighton & Hove South Eastern 4.00am Broadland Eastern 4.00am Bromley London 4.00am Bromsgrove West Midlands 4.00am Canterbury South Eastern 4.00am Cardiff Wales 4.00am Ceredigion Wales 4.00am Chiltern South Eastern 4.00am Craven Yorkshire & Humber 4.00am Croydon London 4.00am Daventry East Midlands 4.00am Doncaster Yorkshire & Humber 4.00am East Hampshire South Eastern 4.00am East Hertfordshire Eastern 4.00am East Riding of Yorkshire Yorkshire & Humber 4.00am East Staffordshire West Midlands 4.00am Eastbourne South Eastern 4.00am Elmbridge South Eastern 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Southampton South Eastern 4.00am St. Edmundsbury Eastern 4.00am Stafford West Midlands 4.00am Stoke-on-Trent West Midlands 4.00am Stroud South West 4.00am Swale South Eastern 4.00am Tendring Eastern 4.00am Test Valley South Eastern 4.00am The Vale of Glamorgan Wales 4.00am Tonbridge & Malling South Eastern 4.00am Wakefield Yorkshire & Humber 4.00am Waltham Forest London 4.00am Waverley South Eastern 4.00am West Dorset South West 4.00am West Lancashire North West 4.00am Wirral North West 4.00am Wolverhampton West Midlands 4.00am Wyre Forest West Midlands 4.00am York Yorkshire & Humber 4.00am Kirklees Yorkshire & Humber 4.30-5.00am Aylesbury Vale South Eastern 4.30am Bexley London 4.30am Braintree Eastern 4.30am Broxtowe East Midlands 4.30am Chichester South Eastern 4.30am Christchurch South West 4.30am East Dorset South West 4.30am Great Yarmouth Eastern 4.30am Hackney London 4.30am Isle of Wight South Eastern 4.30am Kingston upon Thames London 4.30am North East Derbyshire East Midlands 4.30am North Lincolnshire Yorkshire & Humber 4.30am Poole South West 4.30am Sheffield Yorkshire & Humber 4.30am South Oxfordshire South Eastern 4.30am Spelthorne South Eastern 4.30am Stockton-on-Tees North East 4.30am Teignbridge South West 4.30am Tewkesbury South West 4.30am Vale of White Horse South Eastern 4.30am Warrington North West 4.30am Welwyn Hatfield South Eastern 4.30am Wiltshire South West 4.30am North Norfolk Eastern 5.00-6.00am Reigate & Banstead South Eastern 5.00-6.00am South Gloucestershire South West 5.00-6.00am Aberdeenshire Scotland 5.00am Amber Valley East Midlands 5.00am Blaby East Midlands 5.00am Bradford Yorkshire & Humber 5.00am Calderdale Yorkshire & Humber 5.00am Central Bedfordshire Eastern 5.00am Cheshire West North West 5.00am Coventry West Midlands 5.00am Derby East Midlands 5.00am East Cambridgeshire Eastern 5.00am East Devon South West 5.00am Glasgow City Scotland 5.00am Gravesham South Eastern 5.00am Highland Scotland 5.00am Hillingdon London 5.00am 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Northern Ireland will vote to get the sovereignty back.
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Tower Hamlets London 3.00-4.00am
could be late due to extra 50 million postal ballot papers |
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That's probably why the odds are bigger than would be expected, people thinking that it will be ****, me included.
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*r1gged
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I had a punt yesterday.
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A r1gged vote? This isn't the United States of America!
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No, Die Linke but it will be the United States of Europe if we remain.
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this is going to be close- very close
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Shorting up a wee bit now at 3.6
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just gone to 3.4, maybe there's a new news headline somewhere
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Never noticed news stories shortening the Leave odds before, only lengthening them. Whatever, I'll be glad to be proved wrong and see you get 3.2 for your trade, MMH.
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Brexit odds shortened today - 5/2 & 11/4 now from 3's along the board this morning.
 Get in.......Now the days come a lot of these remainer's won't showat the booth, they'll just crawl back under their rocks.....No fight in them types  |
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British havn`t got the nerve to vote leave.
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Sadly I agree lfc1971
We are too greedy. We are too risk adverse. |
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anjem choudary says muslims arn't allowed to take part in this,
so worth pointing this out if you see any muslims @ the polling booths tomorrow. |
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 When I googled it, says he wants to remain.. He wants more Muslims in this country so they can take over Or was that post a cunning ploy by you Ron?, so none of them will vote |
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In todays Sun he say's he will not be taking part as muslims
are not allowed to vote. wish he'd told them that before they voted sadiq khan in |
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?????????????????????
I did not know that was a Muslim rule, or is it because it is Ramadan? |
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If they don't vote, it would be better for leave
But as we are gamblers, I don't expect odds of 1.3 to be turned over |
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don't know the reason, it clearly states that in the paper though.
not sure how you'd find out either - always worth remembering he is a total nut case! |
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In the end
Most people will stick to what they know It's a Remain vote, no doubt. |
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I have found it Ron!
He is backing Remain because he says the EU stops unfair deportations Methinks he is thinking of himself there, a somewhat hypocritical stance. |
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4.8
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Just laid some 1.26 Remain. That's a silly, panicky price. Got an overall position of about 3/1 Leave now.
Illustrates the point I was making above though. This is not a market for going in too heavily on Leave and assuming you'll be able to trade out for a free bet. If you think the market has got it wrong, then don't assume it will somehow do a U-turn. Just have a punt at a big price to a stake you can afford and let it run. |
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I won't be laying off until it gets sub 1.15 or so. I think that there are a lot of people who may feel intimidated into saying that they are voting Out. Have you noticed how many of the "outers" are 2nd, 3rd or 4th generation immigrants. I wonder if they are advocating Out in a kind of misguided (albeit understandable) attempt to be seen to "fit in" more. I wonder how many of these people have been subjected to casual or implied racism or xenophobic attitudes in their lives, and see supporting Out, as a kind of defence mechanism. I wonder just how many of these people will really vote Out?
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