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20 Jun 16 09:23
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do you think her death will have an impact on the vote??...............the betting suggests yes

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By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 20 Jun 16 09:33
yes without a doubt the momentum was firmly with leave, the remains had played all their big cards
By:
ebulGery
When: 20 Jun 16 09:37
Very sad, since I wonder how sane that man was, he may just as well have shouted Up the HammersCrazy

I do not think he was with the rest of us....my opinion
By:
Facts
When: 20 Jun 16 09:55
Today's society, where social media appears to reign supreme, immediate  outpourings of grief overwhelm everything.
An overreaction was inevitable. But so fickle are people, that come Thursday emotions may not be as raw.
As always where a vote is required, there will those that already had a view ,won't change and will vote accordingly.
There will be those that are not sure, remain to be convinced one way or another , and come Thursday it will be whatever tipped the balance for them.
Then you have a significant % who could have voted but can't because they didn't register, and those that can vote, but won't..
I personally hope the vote goes the Remain way, but it wouldn't be the biggest shock if it was Leave. I think the whole Referendum issue has been badly run, communication has been poor, and scaremongering has been rife on both sides.

Whatever the outcome, I believe the Tory government has been holed beneath the waterline. And certainly Cameron and Osborne won't be around for long imo.
By:
Gin
When: 20 Jun 16 09:57
The price was actually about 1.70 on Thursday.
By:
cardifffc
When: 20 Jun 16 10:01
1.7 was a gift
By:
Ramruma
When: 20 Jun 16 10:03
The other factor is Nigel Farage's shiny new poster which will have put off the soft leave voters. Both the poster and the murderer point to links that repel many voters.
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 20 Jun 16 10:10
Farage is incorrigible, he just can't help himself. Preaching to the converted with 10% undecideds up for grabs shows political naivety. You can see precisely why he has failed to be elected as an MP on seven (!) different occasions.
By:
Facts
When: 20 Jun 16 10:14
Agreed. Then on the Remain side they know the polls are showing its the elderly who are most likely to vote Leave, so they issue a statement that says Pensions will reduce if we leave the EU.
When that didn't appear to have an effect ( or was seen to be too polarised), Osborne wheels out his Emergency Budget (that would make everyone financially worse off), which would have to be implemented immediacy if the Leave vote won.
This was the biggest lie so far. It's been shown ( in the EU constitution), that it will take about 2 years to fully depart from The EU, such are the rules and regulations in place. So any need for an 'emergency budget' is pure bullshlt.
Such has been the scattering of wild sweeping statements, it's hardly surprising that those undecided are now so cynical and disbelieving.
By:
Foinavon
When: 20 Jun 16 10:33
Was feeling somewhat undecided but having listened the Stephen Kinnock and baroness Warsi this morning my mind is made up, I'm voting to leave.
By:
terry mccann
When: 20 Jun 16 10:36
im afraid so,last week for the first time I started to believe it could actually happen but now I feel its totally on the side of remain, someone mentioned the new world order ,and you know what? anything is possible in its dirty world we live in,who"s to say she wasn't bumped off?whos to say the guy who killed her(with no history of political leaning)isn't the patsy?i don't know but its defo all over now
By:
jumper
When: 20 Jun 16 10:36
Warsi - blatant opportunism now she sees Remain gaining the momentum. Blown up in her face a bit as she doesn't appear to be ever seen as a Leaver anyway.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 20 Jun 16 10:46
Daniel Hannan asked Warsi 2 months ago if she'd join the Leave campaign and she refused, you can expect more of her type in the next 3 days.
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 20 Jun 16 10:54
All credit to Remain, OUT had been targeting minorities and were gaining some support in their message. But this has neutralised it, although most of the work was some by the one-trick-pony's poster.
By:
leazes67
When: 20 Jun 16 11:27
1.3 now
By:
dunlaying
When: 20 Jun 16 11:34
Terry Mccann , I had the same idea , a dirty trick that backfired.
By:
Injera
When: 20 Jun 16 11:35
Great opportunity for us to vote against the Establishment.

When the Kinnocks join with Cameron, Blair, Brown, Major, Corbyn and even the Archbishop of Canterbury then in my view it's pretty clear which way we she should vote.

As for Jo Cox, on a Remain campaigning stand in Eastbourne on Sunday, there was a book of condolescenes. I think that was outrageous.
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 20 Jun 16 11:36
when the tin-foil hat brigade appears, its time to leave.
By:
anxious
When: 20 Jun 16 11:40
like I said the other day the LEAVE campaign should reflect on what happens when most of the tory supporting press, big business, the establishment turns on you and uses character assassination on its opponents, this is what the Labour party has to face every election.
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 20 Jun 16 11:47
Hugh Gaitskill
Tony Benn.
Peter Shore.
Kete Hoey
Frank Field
Gisela Stuart.

These are real Labour people,they understood exactly what the EU was about.
They fought on behalf of the working class.

The current Labour Party are dont give a damn about the working class,indeed they now despise them.
By:
anxious
When: 20 Jun 16 11:54
It would not matter if they had Kier Hardie ,Aneruin Bevan,Harold Wilson,Micheal foot etc  when the press and establishment and the square mile turn against your up against it big time whoever you are
By:
Gin
When: 20 Jun 16 12:09
It amazes me that so many people on the left are campaigning so vigorously for remain.

In the last few days, I have seen people like Billy Bragg and Geldof who for years have been supposedly railing against the elite establishment now telling us to listen to the likes of Cameron/Osbourne/Obama/ Goldman Sachs/ the IMF etc and vote to remain in a block of countries run by an overly beureucratic bunch of elites (half of whom are un-elected) whose stated aim is “ever closer union” (ie to basically become a United States of Europe).
By:
Injera
When: 20 Jun 16 12:17
Yes Gin and that's the great sadness about our so called democracy. We have no opposition party of note.

Many who voted for UKIP last time long for a Labour Party that gives a damn about the British. Dare I say white British or is that not allowed??

I just wish the Left could see this truth. Ukippers etc are not the enemy of Labour. Many are the product of New Labour.
By:
ebulGery
When: 20 Jun 16 12:49
I agree Injera

and with this earlier
As for Jo Cox, on a Remain campaigning stand in Eastbourne on Sunday, there was a book of condolescenes. I think that was outrageous.

I suggest the leave campaign do the same, it was a terrible tragedy.

I believe the man who did it was not sane and alienated from society, he could have done it for any cause. He just chose 'leave',
could have been any number of causes.
By:
Injera
When: 20 Jun 16 12:55
Any evidence of that though ebul?

Cameron has used the tragedy to further his campaign.

His tweet the other day:

'Jo Cox's strong voice in the campaign to remain in the EU will be sorely missed. Her final article published today: facebook/strongerincamp'

I think that is absolutely disgusting.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 20 Jun 16 12:59
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulkh10sSmVE&feature=youtu.be&list=PLK4V_7HYOCCu99Y4BSivnGtJEs5NxpV5G
By:
cardifffc
When: 20 Jun 16 13:05
funny how one madman can the fortunes of one camp..................it was heading to a toss of a coin but now I think theres only one outcome
By:
casemoney
When: 20 Jun 16 13:14
All seems very Strange to me Plain to say the least ..
By:
cardifffc
When: 20 Jun 16 14:07
I voted remain myself ...better the devil you know
By:
Coachbuster
When: 20 Jun 16 14:12
people finally coming to their senses  ?
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