Chit Chat
Orlando shooting..
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Like most of idiot friends in the tea party and other right wing cults
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What sort of young people are this once great country now producing Ibrahima.
Certainly not Army material - where does this leave us in ex amount of years when the British Army lacks that amount of numbers to be at full strength ? because it's not rocket science to work out this will happen. is this when sharia law steps in? |
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Trump is a fool but have you seen the opposition, the clintons are filth.
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Just watched Owen Jones storming off in the huff.
What a pompous wee coont he is. |
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The left have been very clever, they have taken over schools & Universities which now leads to yellow bellied youth that dont know their arse from their elbow.
The future is grim. |
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How come you had that chat name if you don't mind me asking Ibrahima?
You a supporter of the club? prob answers going to be obviously  |
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Des Pond • June 12, 2016 10:58 PM BST
It's been a horrible weekend for senseless violence. Don't worry about a bit of football hooliganism des, that is natural stuff young men do Also something our supporters have been well known for in the past, in fact I think we invented it? Have you seen 'The Football Factory'..great film, Danny Dyer. |
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It is the extreme sadistic violence we see now, disturbs me.
There are several reasons for this, but I will have to think on this a bit further Ron. |
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When I was younger we had the mods and rockers, all good clean fun.
Young men need this sort of violence. Otherwise it all gets built up like a pressure cooker. There needs to be a safety valve. |
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Guy was looking to become a police officer - Us police only take a few weeks to train. They must of seen he was looking for power. A lot of nuts gravitate to some way of exercising power. Met a few mini dicktators behind a counter in my time.
See me, i'm powerful, displease me and you are dead. Ultimate nut. |
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"Let's all join hands & say together - IT IS TO DO WITH ISLAM ffs"
Well said Ron ....more cowardly reporting on the British Media ...Islam/moslems hardly mentioned. When are people going to wake up and smell the coffee...their (Moslems) fundamental beliefs are so different to ours - they don't belong in Christian Countries. There are plenty of Islamic Countries to live in (mostly sh ite holes) ...where they can practice their religion so why live in a Christian Country ? |
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Turns out the father of the shooter has a youtube channel in which he praised the taliban...“Our brothers in Waziristan, our warrior brothers in [the] Taliban movement and national Afghan Taliban are rising up,” he said. “Inshallah the Durand Line issue will be solved soon.”
This is the same guy who yesterday said the attack had "nothing to do with Islam" https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/12/orlando-shooting-suspects-father-hosted-a-political-tv-show-and-even-tried-to-run-for-the-afghan-presidency/?postshare=4721465759963845&tid=ss_tw |
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I don't particularly like Oen Jones but he has it right on Sky , this is pure hate crime instigated by radical Islam inciting that hatred.The two go together.
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Agreed
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What do the NRA have to say?
It's laughable a gunlobby has the post powerful country in the world bent over a barrel. Mass shootings happen there every single year and every single year nothing is done, they are weak. |
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They are only weak because of the liberal attitude of the US president and the rabble who voted him in.
The first thing that should be done is every member of this murderers family should be deported out of the US. That is all of them sent back to whatever muslim sh1tehole they come from. Including any that may have been born in the US. this should be understood to be the goverments policy and will happen in every future case. |
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I know that the Russian "fans" and the Marseille thugs were probably the main instigators, but if things carry on at this level, there is a real risk they could have to call the tourney off!
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Regarding the NRA - money and profits are far more important to these people than human lives. There attitude is very much 'so what if a few hundred people a year are murdered'. The important thing as far as the gun lobby is concerned is that the gun manufactures are kept in business and that they keep the right to possess guns. Life is getting cheaper by the day.
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And the important thing to Islamic nutters is that dogma is more important than peopel's lives and beliefs,shouldn't that mean we should have contempt for that belief ? Whilst not dfending the NRA it is true that guns do not kill people, other people do.
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Des Pond • June 13, 2016 11:18 AM BST
I have seen Football Factory", Ebul, it was quite good fun, but NOT meant to be taken seriously. Trouble is some people on here sound like they have walked off the set of "Football Factory", and don't seem to realise the Director was poking fun at them! If they want to vent their aggresion, they should go lace up the gloves, imo and fight properly and fairly and learn some discipline! I liked it. The point I am trying to make is young men need somewhere to let out their aggression. Indeed they should lace up gloves and be encouraged into all sport, which enables them to do this But this is not what is happening is it? We want women doing sport, the most pointless thing ever. In fact the whole of Western society has become obsessed with women and their so called problems. One would think men no longer existed, in fact men are not even needed because we have arbitrarily decided women can do anything men can, so no more need for men except for their sperm. In this society men are having to adapt to being the slaves of women or become homosexual. Men who cannot do this are being forced back into the very violent male role because that is all that is left to men. Why do people keep complaining Muslims ill treat women, we never used to when I was young, but we do now. Not because Muslims have changed but because we have become a much more female orientated society in the West. I do not want us all to become Muslims but I wish we would return to the more traditional society with men and women having their separate roles. 1950 values or earlier. I feel these were more natural societies just my own opinion |
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Has any news outlet mentioned multiculturalism yet?
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The Americans seem to be responding in the mistaken style of those in Europe.
Holding hands, singing songs, lighting candles. We've tried that in Europe, and it DOESN'T work. The American President can't even bring himself to mention Radical Islam, although at least he hasn't (yet) said the immortal words "Nothing to do with Islam". |
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The NRA'a response is along the lines of "guns are illegal in France, didn't stop the attacks there".
Maybe someone should point out that this is a hybrid of their lone wolf school shootings that happen every bloody week?! And Owen Jones is a complete and utter goon as well. Came across as a wimpy little gimp trying to hijack these attacks for his gay cause in-turn totally discrediting previous terror attacks. Someone should slap the little **** |
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seems the shooter's Dad is well known - running for president of Afghanistan
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3637968/Father-America-s- deadly-mass-shooter-wanted-Afghan-president-job-TV-showed-support-Taliban.html |
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http://injo.com//2016/06/627509-the-father-of-the-orlando-shooter-recently-visited-state-
department-writes-open-letters-to-president-obama/ |
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http://injo.com//2016/06/627509-the-father-of-the-orlando-shooter-recently-visited-state-department-writes-open-letters-to-president-obama/
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http://injo.com//2016/06/627509-the-father-of-the
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Last 3 links not working, only the top one from Daily Mail
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women could survive without men ,but i would like to see how .
leaky roofs/guttering leaking pipes electricity down heatiungh systems collapsed cars abandoned planes abandoned everything in disrepair ,but nice looking nails and hair imagine Armenia |
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The reluctance to mention Islam is most troubling.
One thing that all these attacks appear to have in common is the willingness of the gunman/bomber to die. They rarely have an escape plan. They seek martydom. Why? Islam teaches that you'll get your virgins etc in Heaven. The more kafirs you kill, presumably the greater reward. This teaching is not atheistic/christian, Hindu, Sikh or Jewish. It's Islamic. Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." Hadith and Sira Bukhari (52:54) - The words of Muhammad: "I would love to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred." This is why modern-day Jihadists often say that they love death. Muslim (20:4655) - A man asks Muhammad "which of men is the best?" Muhammad replies that it is the man who is always ready for battle and flies into it "seeking death at places where it can be expected." |
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Good tweet from Douglas Murray, who himself is gay "I'm sorry for Owen Jones. I would also feel guilty if I'd spent my life covering for the ideology that just killed 50 LGBT people."
Click to 4:31 to hear his views on this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQuyMx2BWtk |
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An Islamic preacher who has called for gay people to be executed gave sermons in Orlando just weeks before the Pulse nightclub massacre.
Farrokh Sekaleshfar - a British-born doctor and Muslim scholar - has gained a following by urging Muslims to 'get rid of' homosexuals. And in April, he took his speech titled 'How to deal with the phenomenon of homosexuality' to the Husseini Islamic Center in Sanford, just outside Orlando, Florida. Two months later, 29-year-old Omar Mateen carried out the worst massacre in US history by opening fire on a gay club in the same city. - Dail Mail. |
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I just checked, the Guardian did 12 seperate articles on the Christian family who refused to bake a cake for a gay marriage.How many have they done on the rampent homophobia in Islam?
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i put the you tube link up somewhere on here Injera.
can't find it though |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBlwxqqAprQ
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