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22 May 16
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Didn't used to mind the Cockney-sparrer patter of twenty-five years ago but it seems that a whole generation of Londoners have come out of school talking with a West-Indian inflection.
It sounds terrible. Hearing it, I knock 15 points off the speaker's IQ. Also, it is a jarring.
It sounds terrible. Hearing it, I knock 15 points off the speaker's IQ. Also, it is a jarring.
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not sure what you is saying bruv.
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It's about da educashun innit.
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Decades of cultural enrichment has certainly made its impact on the English.... not just London
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"Knaife-crime."
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Agree. Any asrehole who says "Aks" instead of "Ask" should be sent to a workcamp for the first offence, second offence just ****ing hang the ****ers.
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'it seems that a whole generation of Londoners have come out of school talking with a West-Indian inflection.' Yes UB, when it first started it was white guys trying to talk like Jamaicans, we used to call it Jafakin. but it found it's way into schools and the old accent seems lost. I'm sure this happens in all living languages when there is an influx of other accents with different Stresses and pitch.
I know the Dublin accent that I grew up with is all but buried, save a few old guys.I think I noticed it more because I had not heard it for so many years whereas gradual change is less noticable. |
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Kcuffing dratsabs. eh.
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Some say that Shakespeare spoke with the drawl of a Mississippi-river-boat card sharp.
I find the ethnic tinge to the London accent curdling but I'm sure my view is partial. |
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Which Dublin accent, the pleasant lilting South Side, or the "I'm going to stab you" North side ?
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Both but more so on the South. North Dublin never sleeps, they like awake working out more ways to steal things the following day. |
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I am often found rocking in my hammock to the Curtly Ambrose frictionless tones of Curtly Ambrose.
So the sooner this vernacular transformation is complete, the merrier we will all be. |
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Also, it is a jarring
Are you Italian? |
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Right you are, boxo
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Are you Italian?
London/German, Bazza. To complete my sentence: And it is a jarring collision of consonants making the listener think he's been stuck on the motorway for an hour. |
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I blame Abs from Five
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Of course the London accent has changed,there's few Londoners left.
London is not a British city anymore,it was given away with ne'er a shot being fired. Look who its Lord Mayor is. |
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I feel bad saying it, but I automatically deduct 15 points IQ when I hear the "new" (west-indian inflected) London accent.
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Interesting thread - yes dare say the accent will be gone/dead.
replaced with a slur on the English language  |
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No accent on earth is worse than the old style cockney accent of the 50s/60s/70s you now hear in parts of Essex and Kent . It's now crept into Suffolk gor blimey guv .
It's f ****g horrific .  It doesn't take much effort to speak properly ffs. |
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Yes because of all of these northern and west country dialects sounds very eloquent and intelligent don't they...
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Cockney just sounds lazy and uneducated. At least West country has certain good points .
I was brought up in South Essex , but i made sure i didn't acquire THAT stereotypical accent - it's the worst i've ever heard |
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and why cant they sound their th's ?
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**** ER KNEES SOUND LIKE PRATS BUT YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT LONDON ACCENTS TILL YOU'VE SPENT A GOD FEW MONTHS TALKING AND LAUGHING AT THE RIDICULOUSNESS OF THE BRISTOLIAN ACCENT
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Coach I have a c0ckney accent but I do speak 'properly' in my job, however; the accent does have its advantages too.
I went to Vegas with 3 mates all from the East End and when with them we really do play on the slang; it's how we were raised. In Vegas it is a rule at the poker tables that you must speak English at all times. Anyway, one guy spoke Spanish for a few lines before the dealer pulled him up and reminded him of the English rule. The guy then referred to us four because he couldn't understand a word we were saying. The dealer overruled him and said "they are all English" - you had to be there to appreciate the humour in the situation. I was raised in the East End and you can't help but pick up the slang and accent, just as the kids of today are doing. I once heard it was termed 'urban' but like most on here I deal with it but I don't like it. |
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Speaking properly is simply a question of discipline. Elocution lessons may be necessary to correct the worst accents - and possibly a decent thrashing
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Fully fledged Londoner here. It's the best accent in the world you utter slags.
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Extremely lazy talkers are these Londoners, even the old Londoners. They should be reminded of the letters that are in these words they say.
Example number 1. The world 'bottle' why would an English person pronounce this as 'bo'UooW' I would believe a West Indian person would pronounce the word 'bottle' in a more correct manner than any old Londoner. |
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*The word 'bottle' why would an English person pronounce this as 'bo'UooW'
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the only bloke who should be allowed to use Cockney is Dave from the Winchester .
Otherwise it gets right up my 'ooter |
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try "the rain in spain"
benidorm |
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The rain in Spain fall mainly in England.
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more rain in northern spain than England
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OK you k/cuffing t/ncuc/a
Hi coach hope you are  well and winning? |
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The above was Smithfield market backslang, in the 70s, had a mate who worked there a variation on victorian backslang and Polari
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Well it definitely isn't c0ckney, it has a 'T' in the middle. No 'H' threw me for a while
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Tnuc is simply the word spoken backwards, they had a habit of putting an a on the last word in a sentance. I believe in Victorian B/slang the t+th was dropped, I may of course be wrong about that
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k/cuffing t/ncuc/a kcuf (k-cuff) again the word is backwards backwards with the ing added. it's difficult to show the pronunciation in the written word, well..... rof em/a
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erm you have 2 C's in Tnuc; it certainly looked like that but again I was thrown by the additional C. Should that be there?
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As said this varied from other b/slang I heard in other parts of London. they did seen to accentuate the cuffing bitby drawing out the f but writing this stuff requires someone better than me,
that wont be difficult I hear you say |