RIP Viola Beach

Could have been xmoneyx, drink, maybe they did not realise why the other cars had stopped?

Terrible loss of 5 young lives, motoring is not risk free

Condolences to families R.I.P.

that was in answer to the fell asleep post

so sad

Trilby have some respect ffs

I've never heard of em, but 2 bits from the news stand out for me.
1. It was reported to be their first gig abroad.
2. It appears they drove off a bridge that was 'up'.

Will toxicology reports be able to determine whether the driver was drinking, because for me it sounds like they were 'in good spirits' and in buoyant mood driving at night in an unfamiliar setting (not often you have to experience opening and shutting bridges).

By the look of the car they pulled out of the river the impact was significant.

What a waste of life. It wouldn't be the first time that drink, drugs, or both were the cause of such a tragedy.

1.If skidmarks on bridge/driver realised to late/bridge raised/unusual bridge
Q-why did he overtake vehicles stopped/red warning lights?

2.No skidmarks/didn't realise the danger/tired high speed/drink or drugs

Hard to speculate what caused it. But 50 metres before the opening, the barrier had flashing lights and warning signs, and for some reason the car didn't stop and crashed down into the canal. It does seem strange that the car kept going when other cars were stopped, possible the driver was unaware and unfamiliar with the roads and that bridge. Or rushing to get somewhere or something wrong with the car (?) Wait for the findings I suppose, hope it wasn't drugs or booze that played a part. All so young, terrible sad story.

maybe bridge security cameras


no one has mentioned this

A truck driver, Jonny Alexandersson, who saw the crash, told Swedish news organisation Aftonbladet[1] that a number of vehicles were stopped at the barrier when a vehicle drove past them at “at least 70-80km/h”.

“Many were obviously very shocked by this,” he said. Inspector Martin Bergholm said that, according to witnesses, the car drove through the barriers before crashing into the canal.

“There were no brake marks on the road and it’s very difficult to say how fast the car was going at the time,” he said. He told Aftonbladet: “The witnesses just saw a car beside them and kind of disappear. The only people who knew what went on inside the car are dead.”

2.No skidmarks/didn't realise the danger/tired high speed/drink or drugs

Suicide?

Seems a strange case this, one for the CCDA to investigate.

Feb 15, 2016 -- 8:23AM, Facts wrote:

Trilby have some respect ffs

Fair go, Facts ... but THE SMITHS as an iconic band?  What are you schmokin, bro?

Meanwhile, CCDA (Scotland Branch) is looking into a case of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfO8TcBa6I0 for those poor lads ...

The Smiths were a big band imo, whatever an iconic band is they were certainly cult.

they were pish mate.

morrisey prancing about with a bunch of flowers up his arris?  Get a grip, ffs!

Morrisey = ****, imo.

https://www.quora.com/Whats-with-Morrissey-and-the-flowers

q ueer

"The Smiths became known as the "Flower wimps" and were criticized quite harshly" - quite rightly too, IMHO!

you might as well lambaste all poets with the same 'b ent' brush then and be done

I just don't like the smiths, dusty.  I used to share a flat with a guy who played their music LOUD, all the time

... don't even get me started on Coldplay

cant say as I was a fan though I knew a few who were, each to their own though innit.
I couldnt stand oasis but plenty liked em

Oasis had a few decent tunes but they got a bit "nasally" after a while.

elvis costello couldn't kiss elvis @rse (/)

Feb 15, 2016 -- 2:34PM, xmoneyx wrote:

elvis costello couldn't kiss elvis @rse (/)

yer dang right there, xmoneyx!

Anyway, back to the case in point, is this them?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btSa91diKio

personally I never got any sentiment in songs, I felt it all cliche and all done to death.
Each songwriter thinks they were the first to feel what ever inspired them but they are too late its all been done.

I think therefore rhythm and the tune is the most important part of any composition, and when you think about it its intrinsic.
We were dancing around fires way before they invented frilly shirt cuffs.

trilby

Are you being deliberately obtuse.?

The YouTube clip states it's Viola Beach - so why do you ask ' is this them '

I repeat. Have some respect.

do one mate.

hth

Mind your knuckles

the smiths were one of the best bands ever

Manchesters Finest

they shpuld have reported this differently . Maybe 5 musicians ,or 5 young Brits in  accident.

First report said 'killed in Sweden rather than killed in accident ,which suggested to me that theyu may have been gunned down etc .

I'm pretty rubbish at English language ,but  folk writing headlines should know better (idiots) so   disrepectful  .  They would have known everyone would have though ' who the hell are Viola beach ?   they weren't a very well known band at all .

Sad loss of young lives all the same .  more of a  head scratching  story than anything - how the hell could such a thing happen ?   

unless it was another  Andreas Lubitz moment following  a row ?

RIP viola beach tragic for the youngsters

accident is wrong

try dangerous driving

It's an accident, I.e not deliberate ( one hopes).

xmoneyx  we don't know yet  - sounds like dange' driving .

But also could be mechanical,medical or even suicidal

unless they were all as high as a kite

Feb 15, 2016 -- 4:04PM, anxious wrote:

the smiths were one of the best bands ever

Nae wonder your anxious listening to that pish!

Feb 15, 2016 -- 4:13PM, Facts wrote:

It's an accident, I.e not deliberate ( one hopes).

Erm, is that a fact - or conjecture?

tribly your just jealous because there are no good jock bands

If it's not done deliberately ( I've with intent), then it's an accident.
Isn't it ?

stick to yer flutes and drums

* I.e

anxious
Tbf.

Travis
Biffo Clyro
Snow Patrol
Simple Minds

Very sad, they were due to play at my local venue on Saturday night.   The radio sent a tweet saying "Indie band no-show at Boiler Room after they are killed in an accident in Sweden".

"No-show" is hardly how I would describe it.

Travis
Biffo Clyro
Snow Patrol
Simple Minds ... not too keen on any of those bands, though I once did have the pleasure of meeting Travis one summer in Glasgow Botanical Gardens before they hit the big time.

Nazareth?
Ginger Baker?
Bon Scott?

Feb 15, 2016 -- 4:45PM, Facts wrote:

* I.e

indeed

Big County?
The Skids?
Average White Band?
The Almighty?
Jethero Tull? (ish)
ACDC!!!
Jimmy Bain? - Rainbow
Jimmy Barnes?
Susan Boyle?
Ceilidh Minogue?
Edwyn Collins?
Lonnie Donegan?
Donovan?
Marillion?
Franz Ferdinand?
The Fratellis?
Gun?
The Sensational Alex Harvey Band?
Horse?
The Humblebums?
Iron Claw?
Mark Knopfler?
Lulu?
Amy MacDonald?
Runrig?
Garbage?
Marmalade?
John Martyn?
Frankie Miller?
Neil Murray? (Whitesnake)
Primal Scream?
The Proclaimers?
Gerry Rafferty?
Red Hot Chilli Pipers?
Maggie Reilly?
The Rezillos?

fck, closed wiki by mistake

Travis the only decent one there not in the same class as the
Smiths
Stone Roses
Joy Division / New Order

I had a bit of time for Joy Division back in the day.

^ but only cos my girlfriend at the time was into them - and it was a was to get into her

a was?

A WAY!!!

mediocre is the word that sums up the list
but everyone has to eat ffs

and that being kind ofc
based on the fact I sometimes listen to radio type music.

Gerry Rafferty?
What was wrong with him>
Baker street

Id save big country too, you can drop the rest
primal scream I guess

Out of that list (I can't be arsed searching Wiki again) the Skids would be my top Scottish band - cos ACDC got hijacked by the Aussies.

Not a single one dropped a tune that made you sponk yer kex on exstacy tho did they so all pretenders really

Into The Valley ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9udxbvHiqGw

^ better version ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyd51ehu5T8

tune ok, if it wasnt for the guy
whats that manufactured anarchy?
couldnt tell you a word he said.

other than la ala la la

That wasn't the originals.

Richard Jobson/ was the original vocalist before the Skids split to form Big Country.  Who was the other guy again?

no words are required just sounds
cut the frontman

better still make a snortriddler of a tune on a computer synthy thing and fire the lot

Stuart Adamson ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Into_the_Valley

Feb 15, 2016 -- 5:45PM, dustybin wrote:

no words are required just soundscut the frontmanbetter still make a snortriddler of a tune on a computer synthy thing and fire the lot

or, a RIPSNORTER as an old mate of mine used to call good tracks!

.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGNL7KNOsPM

I cut my teeth here, I know several types in this shot and was quite probably there on the day

It was about drugs fullstop.

Nobody cared about sentiment.

The initial guitar & drums make Into The Valley a true and inspired ripsnorting snortriddler of epic Scottish proportions!

Anyway ... back to

foydc

That's TheChaser's kind of muzak, innit?

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pack em in like battery chickens give em drugs and watch em explode
f eckin ace
check the guy at 7mins40 legendary

we became a generation or serial killers when life after didnt live up to the artificial high

this is just what we all did
took **** loads of drugs and got spannered
we never cared about analysing lyrics or talk of sentiment ffs.
We all just got off our heads, you can not beat that.
Unfortunately now china sells ratshit in chemical form to this generation trying the same.

I often look at 'groupies' who did 'some drink' and supposedly 'lived it up' and think
Really?

tribly I forgot to mention
The Fall
The Buzzcocks
Oasis
The Hollies
The Bee gees
Happy Mondays
Mamchester on its own defeats Bonny Esocsia

There was a place down Pollokshields way (Glasgow southside) - cannae mind the name of the place - it got burnt down one time.  The Ballroom, maybe? we used to go in after the pub of a Fri / Sat night & it played that mad music.

Spannered ain't the word mate!

Buzzcocks were a good outfit, anxious.

I forgot about the Gibb Brothers - legendary to this day!

Oasis = Scottish?

Hold on, I see what you did there

There were quite a few scots that came down to the northern raves in the 90s
no fuc ker cared, when you were high nothing else mattered.

That said Id love to have kept in touch with half of em cos Id have loved to have asked em why every single team sport they partake in they fail.
Hashtag 'outforthemselves'

I was never into the rave scene, dusty, unless spannered.

Rock 'n' roll's my scene.

Knopfler, NE England,
Snow Patrol, Norn Ireland but met and formed band in Dundee (?) Uni iirc,
John Martyn, from somewhere in the Home Counties although think he had Jocko antecedents... spoke like a savenar.
Mankchester owned the quality new wave scene imho.

DC - with Bon ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDCs7ijNUVM

Mark Knopfler was born in Glasgow, Inspector.

Get Kato out on the case.

Granted, John Martyn was born in New Malden my mistake

[i]I was never into the rave scene, dusty, unless spannered.

Rock 'n' roll's my scene.[/i]

I look upon all else with dim view Im afraid.
Sure theres natty little tunes here and there but very humdrum really.
Plus the highs are totally incomparable
drinking a bottle of JD aint the same as doing 4 MDMA, not even close.

I've done more than me fair share of mad4it tabs, powders, 'erbs 'n' "spirits" but I'm not going to brag about it.

Keep yersel alive dusty

all done and dusted now mate christ you cant keep doin it unfortunately but the good uns never get bettered anywhere in life

Good on you, Dusty.  It was fun while it lasted but now we're older there are more important things going on.

IMO

Hadn't heard of the lads

Their single is pretty decent - two door cinema club/vampire weekend style

it's 79 pence on itunes..buy it and lets see the boys at no.1

not asking a lot is it...just terribly sad

I thought two door cinema club too.

There are no 'accidents' any more.  The police put signs up saying 'Collision' with time and date and a request to contact
them if you have any information.

Police Signs still say ' accident ' in my neck of the woods

The bridge from which tragic indie band Viola Beach plunged to their deaths in a horror car crash had TWO sets of faulty warning lights, it was claimed last night.

If newspapers reports are to be be believed, there appears to be significant  discrepancy between police and emergency services. Police also dispute the lights were defective. But they evidently failed to ask for CCTV footage. And as a result absolute vital proof/evidence of what actually occurred, was wiped !!

smells

I thought they went past a queue of standing cars/trucks

IKEA keep CCTV footage for two months

The driver of a car which crashed killing all four members of the British indie band Viola Beach and their manager had no trace of alcohol or drugs in his blood, according to preliminary results.

Officers have been trying to establish whether the driver was at fault for the crash on 13 February, which happened when the band’s hire car plunged from a bridge into a canal near Stockholm. Police have not said who was driving the vehicle. Previously they said they did not know who was behind the wheel at the time.

A Stockholm police spokeswoman, Carena Skagerlind, said: “We can confirm that the very preliminary post mortem results show that the driver of the car had no trace of alcohol or drugs in the blood.”

She said more tests would be carried out in the coming weeks but police would not be releasing further information on who was driving.

Kris Leonard, River Reeves, Tomas Lowe, Jack Dakin and manager Craig Tarrand, aged between 19 and 35, were on their way back to the airport after the band had played their first foreign gig.

Officers were called to the incident at about 2.30am involving the Nissan Qashqai, which had gone through a barrier of a bridge that had opened to let a boat pass underneath.


The barrier, 50 metres before the opening, had flashing lights and warning signs, the officer handling the case said. Witnesses said the brake lights on the car were not operated, suggesting the driver did not realise the bridge had opened.

After their deaths, a fan-led campaign was launched to get the Warrington-based quartet who had featured on BBC Introducing – a showcase for new artists – to number one in the charts as a tribute. However, their song Swings and Waterslides, failed to break into the top 10 of the official singles chart.

tiredness and not familiar with bridge

Plus,  witnesses stating the warning  lights weren't working properly ?

And warning lights not working ?

looking even more tragic

"Intentionally drove off bridge"  (source : Swedish Police)

. 
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/viola-beach-crash-police-report_uk_56e176aae4b096ed3adbada8?1r307ldi&icid=maing-grid7%7Cuk%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D438397

The word and motivations of Sweden's police have admittedly lost much credibility since the country became stricken by mass immigration.

....and causing Julian Assange to be held under house arrest in Ecuadorian Embassy (missing his children) for 4(?) years.

(They could have interviewed him in UK)