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The Leopard
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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/feb/12/rolf-harris-to-be-charged-seven-counts-indecent-assault

The disgraced entertainer Rolf Harris has been charged in relation to new allegations of indecent assault against seven victims.

Harris, who is serving five and a half years in prison for a string of sex attacks on girls as young as seven, will be brought before magistrates next month. He is charged with seven further offences of indecent assault against seven young girls and women aged between 12 and 27 between 1971 and 2004.

The charges come as a result of further information investigated by Operation Yewtree, the Met police inquiry into Jimmy Savile and other high-profile individuals suspected of child sex abuse.

A CPS spokesperson said: “We have carefully considered the evidence gathered by the Metropolitan police service as part of Operation Yewtree in relation to Rolf Harris.

“Having completed our review in accordance with the Code for Crown Prosecutors, we have concluded that there is sufficient evidence and it is in the public interest for Mr Harris to be charged with seven counts of indecent assault. The alleged offences date from 1971 to 2004 and relate to seven complainants aged between 12 and 27 at the time of the alleged offending.”

Harris will appear at Westminster magistrates court on 17 March.

Harris was convicted in 2014 of 12 counts of indecent assault against four girls, the youngest of whom was eight years old at the time of the assault.

He is charged in relation to the new alleged offences with seven counts of indecent assault on a woman contrary to section 14 of the Sexual Offences Act 1956 and an alternate charge of sexual assault contrary to section three of the Sexual Offences Act 2003.

The Metropolitan police said Harris had been charged on Friday with:

• Indecent assault on a girl under the age of 14 years between 10 and 11 July 1971.

• Indecent assault on a girl under the age of 14 years between 1 January 1977 and 31 December 1977.

• Indecent assault on a woman aged 16 years or over on 17 September 1977.

• Indecent assault on a woman aged 16 years or over between 1 June 1978 and 31 July 1978.

• Indecent assault on a girl under the age of 14 years on 31 December 1983.

• Indecent assault on a woman aged 16 years or over between 1 January 2002 and 31 December 2002.

• Indecent assault on a woman aged 16 years or over between 27 April 2004 and 30 April 2004.

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By:
Crisp77
When: 12 Feb 16 15:02
Could be a long drawn out case.
By:
The Leopard
When: 12 Feb 16 15:06
A bit flippant?
By:
The Leopard
When: 12 Feb 16 15:07
This is serious stuff, Crisp !
By:
Johnny_Mustang
When: 12 Feb 16 15:07
Can you tell what it is yet?
By:
The Leopard
When: 12 Feb 16 15:08
1.01....comes in !
By:
The Leopard
When: 12 Feb 16 15:09
(that's a gambling term I am led to believe, and not meant to be flippant)
By:
The Leopard
When: 12 Feb 16 15:19
I wonder is meant by indecent assault?
By:
akabula
When: 12 Feb 16 18:51
Could be a long drawn out case. LaughLaugh

On a serious note (so as not to displease Leo) Harris has shown absolutely no remorse so far and I doubt he ever will.
By:
Foinavon
When: 12 Feb 16 19:47
No whitewash for Harris, he should have been a politician.
By:
Hound-Dog-2
When: 12 Feb 16 20:00
People like Savile and Glitter, not so surprising about them, but Rolf Harris a kiddy fiddler, that was a shock !
By:
mrcombustible
When: 12 Feb 16 21:05
After all the other failed historic sex cases the CPS are using this to get a win. They say it is in the public interest to prosecute him. I think it is a waste of money. Harris is already a ruined man, this prosecution if successful will not harm his reputation any further as it is already zero.
Waste of taxpayers money
By:
akabula
When: 12 Feb 16 21:09
I don't think that's how his victims will see it.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 12 Feb 16 21:16
should of got life for stairway to heaven
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 12 Feb 16 21:37
Can just imagine the conversation with the alleged victims now "thanks to you all for having the courage to come forward and relive what must have been such a terrible time for you but I dont think we'll bother prosecuting him for indecently assaulting all of you as his reputation is already zero so it's just a waste of time."
By:
kenco
When: 12 Feb 16 22:58
Hasn't ot any tory friends to help him out?Love
By:
casemoney
When: 12 Feb 16 23:06
One Young Girl  On Jimll Fix it was delighted, When Jim arranged for her to Meet Rolf Harris,and then milk a cow, blindfolded ,Jim was good like that ..
By:
charwell.
When: 12 Feb 16 23:11
I think it is a waste of money. Harris is already a ruined man, this prosecution if successful will not harm his reputation any further as it is already zero.

He is ruined for what he did. His assets should be used to pay for the time and cost of prosecutions. Clearly you have no children to hold sucha simplistic and ill informed view.

Cannot understand cretins who defend paedos from prosecution because they have already been prosecuted!!The man will rot in jail for his crimes and die there.

Very pleased he will.
By:
crystalhunt
When: 12 Feb 16 23:24
Not in a nice way but I wonder how he's doing in the nick.
By:
akabula
When: 12 Feb 16 23:30
Definitely not suffering and protesting that he shouldn't be there.
This latest turn of events should put a damper on his arrogance.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 13 Feb 16 00:05
He should have been strung up by his knackers.
By:
casemoney
When: 13 Feb 16 00:39
Digeridoo Has been well Blown imo
By:
casemoney
When: 13 Feb 16 00:40
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By:
The_KAMIKAZEE_DRINKING_MACHINE
When: 13 Feb 16 10:58
Innocent or guilty I'm never really sure how they prove guilt on things that happened 30 or more years ago. Just based on what people say. If I said someone took 50k cash out of my desk in 1979 then I'd be no chance of proving it in 2016.

God I wish I had 50k cash in a desk in 1979!!!
By:
squares
When: 13 Feb 16 11:29
I wonder is meant by indecent assault?



Not condoning Harris or any of these cases by any means, but indecent assault covers a vast array of offences. Sexual assault even more so with offences ranging from what many would deem relatively minor to the heinous.

There should be some sort of "grading" really, but I suppose that is dealt with in court and at sentencing time.

When doing jury service some years back, I was on a sexual assault case.

Chap early 30s, quite a juvenile type, dressed young, etc.
Two girls 15/16ish.
They knew each other, hung round together from time to time.
He was in court for trying to kiss one of them.

Compared to some of the offences which come under sexual assault, this did feel fairly low level and I can imagine many locals would have wondered what he had done to these girls to end up in court for sexual assault.
By:
dunlaying
When: 13 Feb 16 16:15
What is the point if he is already in the jug?
The legal eagles will clean up again.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 13 Feb 16 16:44
The point is if you diddle 12 year olds then you should be prosecuted for it.
By:
artie
When: 13 Feb 16 16:44
Complete waste of time and money.The Police etc.messed things up with Saville, and now they are trying to prove their worth by going after any celebrity available.Regarding the victims.If they haven't got over being "touched up" by Harris after 40 years,then they never will.
By:
kenny mann
When: 13 Feb 16 17:11
Not been following the case although I do know that one woman admitted lying in court, and another sold her "story" for tens of thousands.

Is there any evidence Rolf is guilty?
By:
Injera
When: 13 Feb 16 17:25
An offence is indecent if a 'reasonable person' would believe it indecent, whatever the belief of the accused.
    An offence is not indecent if a 'reasonable person' would believe it not indecent, whatever the belief of the accused.

If the offence cannot be assigned to either preceding category, then it will be indecent if it can be shown that the accused thought it indecent.

- From Wiki..

Talk about vague..
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 13 Feb 16 17:31
Not been following the case although I do know that one woman admitted lying in court, and another sold her "story" for tens of thousands.

Is there any evidence Rolf is guilty?


Following the case? The guy has only been charged? Where are you getting your info. from?
By:
kenny mann
When: 13 Feb 16 17:52
I'm referring to the "crimes" for which he was imprisoned 2 years ago.
By:
kenny mann
When: 13 Feb 16 17:53
Should have clarified that.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 13 Feb 16 17:56
So you're asking if there is any evidence of guilt about someone who was convicted after trial?
By:
charwell.
When: 13 Feb 16 18:36
Kenny Mann is all for protecting animals.

Yet he thinks children shouldn't be afforded protection from animals such as Harris and has the temerity to ask if there is any evidence for his current incarceration?!!

Well Kenny; there is a hell of a lot of it! Hence why he is spending his retirement at HM pleasure.
By:
kenny mann
When: 13 Feb 16 18:44
Can you describe this evidence please and have the women received any financial payment for their ordeals?
By:
kenny mann
When: 13 Feb 16 18:45
Acouple were in deep debt so it wouuld come in handy.
By:
kenny mann
When: 13 Feb 16 18:47
In fact I think she was declared bankrupt.
By:
kenny mann
When: 13 Feb 16 18:47
one of them that is.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 13 Feb 16 18:55
Kenny there's this thing called google where you can read newspaper reports about trials of convicted criminals. Clearly this will not put you in the same position as the 12 members of the jury who sat through several days of evidence in order to consider the credibility and reliability of that evidence but it certainly will make you seem less clueless than asking whether their was any evidence in a case where someone was convicted after trial.
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