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20 Jan 16 14:05
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she is 63, just had a stroke, can barely walk or speak, takes her 20 minutes to walk up the road. She went to the DWP to find out about ESA , disablity etc and was sent for assessment. She has been declared FIT for work. Meaning she will have to fulfill her JSA obligain, 30 hours job search, workfare, sanctioned for anything even 2 miytes late for interview. This is a fckig disgrace how this can happen to someone like her. By hw way, she has worked all her life before the stroke.

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By:
blackestnight
When: 20 Jan 16 14:30
My friend David was about 50% blind, arthiritic, had a serious stroke and was diabetic. This guy did 35 years in the steel works and the very same DWP bastards hounded him right up to retirement age, which was only a year or two ago. He died recenty, RIP Dave.
By:
mememe
When: 20 Jan 16 14:50
Can't their GP or hospital consultant do anything about it?

I can understand with shirkers, but these 2 examples must be heartbreaking for selves and families.

Presumably contactor company (ATOS or whoever) is incentivised to reject everything ... disgrace.
By:
jollyswagman
When: 20 Jan 16 14:53
pandora that is awful.

hopefully with physio she can get better in time.
By:
Early Morning Riser
When: 20 Jan 16 15:05
She should appeal the DWP decision. IDS should be ashamed of what he is doing to the disabled. But you will have some Tory come along from the politics forum to say that IDS is doing the right thing and they agree with him.
By:
Crisp77
When: 20 Jan 16 15:11
At least she has her state pension to help pay some bills.
By:
guinness2dear
When: 20 Jan 16 15:11
IDS should be ashamed of what he is doing to the disabled

The twunt enjoys it.. Can't ye just see him as a land baron in the days of Billy the Conq whipping serfs for his own amusement?
By:
mememe
When: 20 Jan 16 15:17
Clearly something had to be done about the abuse of the system ... I'm sure we all know or know of individuals and families who just play the system and are not really ill and have no intention of working.

That's just not fair to those who do work and pay their fair dues.

But what is wrong is the layers between the policy makers and the public who suffer ... these are the odious civil servants and their agents.

Having said that IDS does deserve a slap on his head for being a politician.
By:
lfc1971
When: 20 Jan 16 15:32
I assume they are British...easy targets.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 20 Jan 16 15:34
Yeah I thought if you were 63 you were pension age anyway.
By:
lfc1971
When: 20 Jan 16 15:38
Quite possible if you are British and have paid taxes and worked and never claimed anything for 30, 40 years to find yourself being called a racist.
By:
Desmond Orchard
When: 20 Jan 16 15:53
Remember when threads with these type of titles used to have a 'spaffed on her chebs' conclusion?
Chit chat becoming over-politicised and dreary, imo.
By:
Johnny_Mustang
When: 20 Jan 16 15:57
I was expecting a similar outcome to be fair Desmond. The place ain't what it used to be.
By:
Clouseau
When: 20 Jan 16 16:02
At 63 she should be looking at Pension Credit rather than ESA.

ESA isn't for people who are old enough for state pension.
By:
Early Morning Riser
When: 20 Jan 16 16:06
Pandora, Also those people who are found UNFIT FOR WORK and are claiming ESA will HAVE to write a CV out and job search when ESA is transferred to universal credit. CrazyCrazy
By:
Clouseau
When: 20 Jan 16 16:09
.
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/older-people/benefits-for-older-people/#h-state-pension-age
By:
rob_dylan
When: 20 Jan 16 16:40
Pandora's probably just made the whole story up and didn't even do the basic research regards pension age.
By:
The Dragon
When: 20 Jan 16 16:48
cant get pension now till 65 (Women) and 66 (men ) I think. Plans to increase the age going forwarde
By:
rob_dylan
When: 20 Jan 16 16:49
I did a little check and if you were a woman born in 1952 then you should already be receiving a pension.  Pandora talking out his ringpiece as usual.
By:
mememe
When: 20 Jan 16 16:50
Dragon ...

apparently it's because we're all living longer ... well the ones that don't die are.

And because we've got so many immigrants claiming (77%, I read somewhere).

Just can't afford it.
By:
Crisp77
When: 20 Jan 16 16:51

Jan 20, 2016 -- 4:40PM, rob_dylan wrote:


Pandora's probably just made the whole story up and didn't even do the basic research regards pension age.


The being out of the house and talking to a woman also rang alarm bells

By:
HH Sultan Vinegar
When: 20 Jan 16 16:52
Laugh
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 20 Jan 16 16:54
Yes rob I take these stories with a pinch of salt as well.

I know shirkers who have been on the disability bandwagon for years.

There are still plenty getting away with it.
By:
lfc1971
When: 20 Jan 16 16:57
^ Dr. you are not a real doctor.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 20 Jan 16 16:58
ENGLAND voted TORY

seed what you sow

tough
By:
bix
When: 20 Jan 16 17:01
I think we all know of people like that, often with a "bad back".
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 20 Jan 16 17:01
lfc1971,
Neither are you.

How they behave when they're being assessed and how they behave out of sight of the assessors are two different things.
It's not hard to pull the wool over a doctor's eyes.
By:
lfc1971
When: 20 Jan 16 17:02
I suppose that might happen.
By:
mecca
When: 20 Jan 16 17:02
Opened this fred thinking that it was gonna be about a rumpy pumpy session
By:
lfc1971
When: 20 Jan 16 17:05
Then there is money involved on both sides, and the doctors are making more, they may not be totally impartial.
By:
lfc1971
When: 20 Jan 16 17:07
If a doctor is getting paid to find people fit for work we may have a problem.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 20 Jan 16 17:07
ok I take it back heres his mum






https://twitter.com/search?q=%20Vaughn%20&src=typd
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 20 Jan 16 17:07
By the way, don't expect Pandora1963 to come back on this thread.

He starts threads like this and then disappears.

He's almost certainly made the whole story up.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 20 Jan 16 17:08
tony should be along soon with another bleeding heart story.
By:
mad mad moon
When: 20 Jan 16 20:56
As Rob says, even if she was 63 yesterday she could have claimed pension from Nov 2015.

Seems a huge jump in retirement age for a difference of being born a few months later.

For women Born 1st Jan 1952 Ret Age 61
             to   1st Dec 1954 Ret Age 66

Pandora should do more research before he makes up these stories.
By:
akabula
When: 20 Jan 16 23:26
The being out of the house and talking to a woman also rang alarm bells

LaughLaughLaugh
You're in fine form tonight Crisp.
By:
Platini
When: 21 Jan 16 14:31
Tory scum, par for the course, sadly.
By:
alun2005
When: 21 Jan 16 14:39
This is a fckig disgrace how this can happen

I can remember another disgrace from 2015. A forumite on Chit Chat started a thread offering odds on the number of seats that UKIP would win at the 2015 General Election. Many forumites accepted those odds and placed the bets accordingly, in full public and transparent view for all on Chit Chat to see.

We still await settlement and payment.

I'm sure the forumite concerned will want to inform us how he intends to honour the bets and right the wrong, given his outrage at the 'disgrace' concerning the 63 year old lady.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 21 Jan 16 16:36
Pandora smashed into outer space. Good job he put that silver foil under his clothes.
By:
HH Sultan Vinegar
When: 21 Jan 16 16:57
maybe pandora is the 63 year old woman?
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