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House of Commons - Live - Bombing Debate - 11.30am
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The bombing campaign is akin to trying to repair a watch with a crane, knowledge, precision, and use of appropriate tools (ground troops) is the only way this gets done, and then it's on to libya, and so on etc, etc, all this to try and clear up the dreadful mess that has been created in the protectionism 'Petrodollar' wars.
Home grown Jihadists are as big a threat, (if not more so) as any foreign army. |
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BTW, agree or not, Benns speech was masterful, while Corbyn looked like an also ran in the proceedings. Is this really going to be the quality of opposition for the next few years!.
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In that case (if we can believe that) then it won't change much at all. Anyway they have moved HQ to lybia.
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we should have no problem sorting the yanks when the time comes,theyve been bombing that oilfield along with the russians and saudi,s for 15 months ,yet according to sky and co we did more damage and were tucked up in bed 3 hrs later,when this is all over the yanks and ruskies will no better than to mess with us, LOL
have the yanks and coalition decided yet if that shooting in the us was the work of highly trained,highly skilled terrorists trained in syria,planned in raqqa blah blah,or 2 oddballs picking up 2 automatic guns out of the garage, the deciding factor in in boxing these matters off to one side or the other [ all though the tactics and results are the same ]are if the gunmen shout ali akaber or something,isil have praised them anyway |
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speeches are like budgets ,in 6 months time corbyn could like churchill and benn could look exactly the same as he did after iraq,afghanistan and lybia, ie an incompetent fool
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but they appear to know nothing about military strategy??
we have also been lead by the nose over the whole thing since the invasion of iraq mainly lies |
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I would say Hilary Benn has a much better grasp of the facts than you 1st TP.
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What is the political strategy??? Once they have wiped out daesh (which isnt going to happen) then who are they going to turn on
Assad??? ffs?? imagine!!?? |
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mobo, good question, I fear this will run and run. This is such a multi faceted problem, reported by self (or government) serving media organizations, which news channel do you trust!!. Who on this forum can claim to know the half of what the USA, Russia, Saudi Arabia (our friend) Iran, Israel, Qatar, etc, et bl00dy cetra. are doing behind the scenes.
I am no more qualified than most on here, so I will leave it to others to debate, (Oxford Union style??? or reverse?) squabble, or simply vent their own disappointments by projecting them onto others. The most immediate problem is among us in our towns and cities. I'm done  |
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usa have armed daesh and other groups you couldnt make it up and now look at them - talk about the worm has turned
and sky were bleating on about the moderate groups against assad MODERATES !!?? they are all terrorist - you can see how skewed this all gets when a national news programme calls them moderate - they are all evil killers. on a bad day I think let them all kill one another - the west should pull out but that is just giving up isn't it |
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the leopard
they said the same about fergie when i said bebe was shoite biggest mistake in life thinking someone no,s more about something than you just because there class,upbringing etc has given them a platform,did you say the same about benn when he voted for the iraq war when over a million people were voting against it on the strets outside, 660 mp,s were saying exactly the same thing[i think they no more than us ]as the bankers took this country to the edge of ruin etc ,etc, robin cook probably thought he knew more than most of us when he said before afghanistan no british blood will be lost in this conflict, use your eyes,ears and brain and think for yourself leopard if you think anyone of them 660 mp,s has your interests at heart i suggest you think again,question anything and everything your told,  |