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Tony Broke just makes numbers up to try and win arguments, that much is clear, typical leftie.
He's on another thread stating that 87% of the uk are against the syrian thing, a number I presume he just made up scratching his ars*. Reading the above, what a deperssing thread of salivating conspiracy nuts and lefties believing any old sh*t that anyone posts on the net, as long as validates some conspiracy that want to believe so they can feel superior to everyone who isn't as clued up as them. We need more funding for mental hospitals and better education in our schools, that's for sure. |
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Isis wants an insane, medieval race war – and we’ve decided to give them one
Frankie Boyle The most effective way to defeat Isis is to lock them up in a cell and deny them martrydom and glory. No paradise, no virgins – just a guard wishing them a bland good morning, and a regular change of towels Friday 4 December 2015 16.35 GMT So we decided to stop children drowning on the beaches by killing them in their beds. It’s hard to think of a more poetic metaphor for our utter lack of ideas than spending several years dropping high explosives on to a desert. Dropping something from a great height can never be precise – this is why Santa still parks up the sleigh. I have to admit that I was sort of disturbed by the palpable excitement in parliament, and couldn’t escape the feeling that our politicians like wars because they make them feel important. The motion they voted on was a vague list of “necessary measures” and “requests for assistance”, with “specifically airstrikes” at the very bottom – as if someone had shouted it out of the front door as they were starting the car: “Oooh! Don’t forget eggs, milk – and airstrikes!!” One MP argued that IS need a lot of space to move and that airstrikes would limit their territory. The Paris shooters lived in one room with a mattress; we could bomb Syria to the average size of a London flat and they’d still find room to manoeuvre. Bombing Syria will achieve nothing. Let’s at least take a swing at China and have these dull winter skies replaced with a curtain of incendiary light. What is Cameron’s problem with IS? Ordinary people who in their spare time have formed a huge multinational oil trade and a workforce of thousands willing to be paid in rice and fear – that’s the Big Society right there. Cameron called them “Women-raping, Muslim-murdering, medieval monsters” – he carefully avoided saying “child molesters” in case one of the backbench shouted: “Present!” This is before we get to the fact that he used the word “medieval” to justify a military expedition into the Middle East. Of course bombing will cause delight in Islamic State, where it will form the only entertainment. There’s no music, no dancing, and we’re spending a couple of million quid a night providing the mise en scène for these sadists’ fantasy life. Hilary Benn, the product of his father’s tempestuous affair with Lembit Opik, showed a fighting spirit that was direct proof of Johnny Cash’s A Boy Named Sue. I think it’s worth remembering that if you say something and Tories start cheering, then you have said something awful. Yes, Hilary, we bombed Hitler, but we were being attacked here by German planes that were leaving from Germany – not by a teenager in west London who had been assembling a Doodlebug in the garage. Benn’s whole speech was played in celebratory fashion the next night on Radio 4, feeding into my theory that George Orwell was so prescient about our society that he moved to Jura to deliberately encourage his TB. We learned little from the debate, except for the fact that the word caliphate sounds hilarious in a Northern Irish accent, and so do a bunch of other words. Perhaps we’ll soon be so used to the Middle East being in permanent conflict that retaking a Syrian Village from IS will become one of the tasks on The Apprentice. Perhaps destruction is simply easier than kindness. We find it easier to tell a stranger on WhatsApp we want to have sex with their face than hold hands with someone we might be falling in love with. It’s ridiculous really. Charles Manson or Anders Breivik murder people to try to start a race war and it’s laughably insane, but when IS do it we decide to give them one. Islamic State practise a brand of Islamic law so strict that apparently Raqqa only has two Irish Pubs. For some reason the BBC website keeps reporting opposing moderate rebel groups, but never names them. I know the names of all the cat-hybrid-vegetable-marine-biologist Octonauts, but the differences between the groups fighting Assad are deemed too complex for me. Moderate seems to be a very fluid term when it comes to offshoots of al-Qaida and whatnot, and moderate groups vary from outfits such as Nuclear Allahcaust, who despise the west, and more reasonable elements such as the Al-Jihadi Infidel Soul Harvest, who despise the east, because if you travel east for long enough, you reach the west. I wonder if the Commons really understands or cares that they are making Britain a target. How affected will MPs be by terrorism? In their high-security lives, the only fear they have of an attack on a bus is that the waiters will be late for a drinks reception. I think we live in a country that sometimes forgets how effective the rule of law is, perhaps because our governments have often found it inconvenient. We invest a vast amount of money in intelligence and terrorists have to, by their nature, take risks: cross borders, move weapons. I think the most effective place for those guys to end up is not in a martyr video, but in a small but comfortable jail cell. Somewhere in Kent, perhaps. No paradise, no virgins, no meaning leant by us to their stupidity, no glory, no attention. Just a guard wishing them a bland good morning, and a regular change of towels. And if you think that’s insufficient punishment, give them a television that only gets terrestrial, and all our newspapers everyday. |
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People ever ready to blame the west for the deaths in the middle east always,all too conveniently, ignore the perpetrators are usually their own brethren of a mildly different religious viewpoint.When they stop believing in fairy tales the world may become a little safer.
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"The west" aren't putting a gun to anyone's heads and forcing them to act this way.
It's just it makes people on the left far more comfortable to always blame the west/the US/capitalism/oil conspiracies for anything, rather than accept the truth that people who who have free will are doing these things. Syria has something like 1/60th of the worlds oil I think was the figure, about the same as Mongolia, and the world is now swimming in cheap oil due to fracking. The conspiracy nuts who say "it's all about oil" then feel smug really need to grow up, it's just sad now. |
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So u didnt read the link then...it isnt just about oil, its about a gas pipeline and other countries such as saudis and Quatar trying to force their hand, failing, and then obtaining the 'west's' support ie. against Russian plans who have always supported both Iran and Syria.. To say Ive made up the numbers regarding Iraqi deaths is little short of laughable if it werent so tragic....no such thing either as a 'typical leftie,' the fact is you know full well there always has been, and continue to be, thousands of innocent people killed and all in the name of greed and self serving meglomaniacal elite ****s who want the entire resources of the earth to them fecking selves.
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..not to mention the fact heat they were agaisnt Assad, who appeared to have Isis agaisnt him, so who's side are we actually now on?
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You also know full well, unless youre completely dumb, that this act of aggression on the uk's part will undoubtedly lead to far more of a terrorist threat to our so called security.
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Maybe next time they ought to focus their attention on the houses of parliament.
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BOMB ASSAD no BOMB DAESH no BOMB THE KURDS think about it. How much of a threat are any of these to this country??
Will Dewsbury be next?? |
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good time to buy armament shares
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The honky govts. of the west and the mad muzzers are as bad as one another. There will never be peace in the middle east and continued sporadic terrorist attacks all over the world. Best get used to it.
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The honky govts. of the west and the mad muzzers are as bad as one another.
turns out it's disproportionately black in key positions: obama, holder, rice, johnson, lynch, etc, but yes that govt seems very aligned with and supportive of the mad muzzers: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-05/putin-accuses-us-isis-oil-coverup the propaganda myth we were sold was that bush wanted to "steal all the oil" but they didn't touch a drop and left a fairly stable democracy, which then obama promptly wrecked, handed the countries over to muslim extremists and is helping his erdogan buddies steal the oil ![]() |
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but he IS is one of the is is n't he??
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but he IS is one of them is is n't he?
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