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DartsnBooze
02 Nov 15 21:26
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I placed a bet on an Outright market that was only formed at the semi final stage.
The bookmaker claimed it to be an ante post bet. How can this be so when the four remaining players had already each won 5 matches?

My Outright selection was then disqualified following a complaint from another country.
The market remained open on the day of the semi finals with all 4 players prices remaining the same, even though one had been disqualified.

It's a Darts bet with all the info on the link below...Scroll past halfway for the bookies reply.

Regards DnB.

http://community.betfair.com/darts/go/thread/view/94054/30607287/wdf-darts-world-cup-turkey-27-31-oct-2015?sdb=1&pg=last#546714359
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Report boxingthefox • November 2, 2015 9:41 PM GMT
Have you tried IBAS...Independent Betting Adjudication Service
      PO Box 62639, London, EC3P 3AS
      Tel : 020 7347 5883
Report boxingthefox • November 2, 2015 9:46 PM GMT
BTW, I'm deffo NOT a wise head. Laugh
Report a bitofinterest • November 2, 2015 10:39 PM GMT
better off putting it on the horse racing forum dnb.this places a wasteland
Report STUDYFORM • November 2, 2015 10:41 PM GMT
It's not terribly clear from your link.

If you placed your bet after he had qualified on a price offered based on just 4 players left, you should get a refund.
He took no part from the time the bet was struck. As he wasn't one of the 4 semi finalists and you backed him to win the event from a point where he was declared a semi finalist you didn't have an active participant.
THAT IS as long as he was replaced by someone else. If he just got kicked out and the other semi-finalist went straight to the final then your bet would be a loser.

If the bet was placed at any time before the semi-finalists were known, the bet is a loser (a bit like having a horse falling or taking the wrong course during the race).

I'm not sure how clear that all looks.
Report STUDYFORM • November 2, 2015 10:43 PM GMT
I'd have thought the bookies would have just refunded you as a gesture of goodwill anyway.
Phone them and ask for a supervisor imo.
Report a bitofinterest • November 2, 2015 10:43 PM GMT
good work study,i never doubted you Cool
Report STUDYFORM • November 2, 2015 10:48 PM GMT
Happy
Report Capt__F • November 2, 2015 11:12 PM GMT
take a £10 for cash
Report akabula • November 3, 2015 1:03 AM GMT
boxingthefox  • November 2, 2015 9:46 PM GMT 
BTW, I'm deffo NOT a wise head.


Yet again I find myself in complete agreement with Foxy. Laugh
Report themover • November 3, 2015 2:47 AM GMT
stick to the Booze imho
Report ebulGery • November 3, 2015 4:05 AM GMT
THAT IS as long as he was replaced by someone else. If he just got kicked out and the other semi-finalist went straight to the final then your bet would be a loser.

probably agree with that
Report ebulGery • November 3, 2015 4:08 AM GMT
If the other semi finalist went straight to the final, but rule 4 was applied to the remaining 3 players
you should also get a refund
Report ebulGery • November 3, 2015 4:18 AM GMT
If no other player came into the betting and he paid full odds on the winner
then he must consider your bet a loser...or he would over broke the other 3 players
Report boxingthefox • November 3, 2015 2:11 PM GMT
akabula Laugh It's uncanny!! it's like we're telepathic twins Shocked, orrrrrr it could just be "Great minds"...Crazy O cr@p it's the other one isn't it. Cry
Report DartsnBooze • November 4, 2015 11:47 AM GMT
Thank you all for your input.

Following a lengthy phone discussion (22 mins) John Michael came under starters orders, and I did my dough.
All outright bets stand and according to the trader the semi final match was voided.

When I asked why John Michael was still in the Outright and semi final markets on the day of the semi finals when he'd already been disqualified a day or two prior he couldn't answer (so I did for him).

I did my best to squeeze out as much info as possible and was not surprised to be told very little money was taken on any of the available markets.

Thanks again folks. Back to the ghost town that is the darts forum...
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