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DartsnBooze
02 Nov 15 21:26
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I placed a bet on an Outright market that was only formed at the semi final stage.
The bookmaker claimed it to be an ante post bet. How can this be so when the four remaining players had already each won 5 matches?

My Outright selection was then disqualified following a complaint from another country.
The market remained open on the day of the semi finals with all 4 players prices remaining the same, even though one had been disqualified.

It's a Darts bet with all the info on the link below...Scroll past halfway for the bookies reply.

Regards DnB.

http://community.betfair.com/darts/go/thread/view/94054/30607287/wdf-darts-world-cup-turkey-27-31-oct-2015?sdb=1&pg=last#546714359

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By:
boxingthefox
When: 02 Nov 15 21:41
Have you tried IBAS...Independent Betting Adjudication Service
      PO Box 62639, London, EC3P 3AS
      Tel : 020 7347 5883
By:
boxingthefox
When: 02 Nov 15 21:46
BTW, I'm deffo NOT a wise head. Laugh
By:
a bitofinterest
When: 02 Nov 15 22:39
better off putting it on the horse racing forum dnb.this places a wasteland
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 02 Nov 15 22:41
It's not terribly clear from your link.

If you placed your bet after he had qualified on a price offered based on just 4 players left, you should get a refund.
He took no part from the time the bet was struck. As he wasn't one of the 4 semi finalists and you backed him to win the event from a point where he was declared a semi finalist you didn't have an active participant.
THAT IS as long as he was replaced by someone else. If he just got kicked out and the other semi-finalist went straight to the final then your bet would be a loser.

If the bet was placed at any time before the semi-finalists were known, the bet is a loser (a bit like having a horse falling or taking the wrong course during the race).

I'm not sure how clear that all looks.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 02 Nov 15 22:43
I'd have thought the bookies would have just refunded you as a gesture of goodwill anyway.
Phone them and ask for a supervisor imo.
By:
a bitofinterest
When: 02 Nov 15 22:43
good work study,i never doubted you Cool
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 02 Nov 15 22:48
Happy
By:
Capt__F
When: 02 Nov 15 23:12
take a £10 for cash
By:
akabula
When: 03 Nov 15 01:03
boxingthefox  • November 2, 2015 9:46 PM GMT 
BTW, I'm deffo NOT a wise head.


Yet again I find myself in complete agreement with Foxy. Laugh
By:
themover
When: 03 Nov 15 02:47
stick to the Booze imho
By:
ebulGery
When: 03 Nov 15 04:05
THAT IS as long as he was replaced by someone else. If he just got kicked out and the other semi-finalist went straight to the final then your bet would be a loser.

probably agree with that
By:
ebulGery
When: 03 Nov 15 04:08
If the other semi finalist went straight to the final, but rule 4 was applied to the remaining 3 players
you should also get a refund
By:
ebulGery
When: 03 Nov 15 04:18
If no other player came into the betting and he paid full odds on the winner
then he must consider your bet a loser...or he would over broke the other 3 players
By:
boxingthefox
When: 03 Nov 15 14:11
akabula Laugh It's uncanny!! it's like we're telepathic twins Shocked, orrrrrr it could just be "Great minds"...Crazy O cr@p it's the other one isn't it. Cry
By:
DartsnBooze
When: 04 Nov 15 11:47
Thank you all for your input.

Following a lengthy phone discussion (22 mins) John Michael came under starters orders, and I did my dough.
All outright bets stand and according to the trader the semi final match was voided.

When I asked why John Michael was still in the Outright and semi final markets on the day of the semi finals when he'd already been disqualified a day or two prior he couldn't answer (so I did for him).

I did my best to squeeze out as much info as possible and was not surprised to be told very little money was taken on any of the available markets.

Thanks again folks. Back to the ghost town that is the darts forum...
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