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It got a lot of tests done on it.
And in the near future they will be able to prove its age.
its either really Jesus Christ's face or its a fake.
but most of the scientists who done tests on it are confused about the material in it.
what I would like to know is"if it is a fake,where did the guy who faked it get the material its made from."
Because it is a material that confuses a lot of scientists.
And the blood or paint on it has a lot of scientists disagreeing as to what it is.
no doubt the guy who made this shroud has some serious intentions to confuse the people of the world.or perhaps it really is the face of jesus Christ.the jury is still out.
And in the near future they will be able to prove its age.
its either really Jesus Christ's face or its a fake.
but most of the scientists who done tests on it are confused about the material in it.
what I would like to know is"if it is a fake,where did the guy who faked it get the material its made from."
Because it is a material that confuses a lot of scientists.
And the blood or paint on it has a lot of scientists disagreeing as to what it is.
no doubt the guy who made this shroud has some serious intentions to confuse the people of the world.or perhaps it really is the face of jesus Christ.the jury is still out.
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Sure I saw a programme on this about 10 years ago, it was tested & thought to be from around the 14th century or sometime around then.
Its a linen shroud. Who are these confused scientists?
have a look on wiki,its great reading,the shroud is now starting to change colour,and some guy says that it was radiation burns that left the face on it,a supernatural burn.it was carbon dated 14th century, but they found some rags from the first century that have the exact same chemicals as the shroud has so they believe that there was an earthquake in the year 33 that has something connecting chemicals to both materials .
Another gut says the maker of the shroud used sticky tape to hold the fold together.
but that's not my point, a jesus face on a pizza will not make you famous,but the guy who made the shroud could have being famous for the material he used,never mind faking a jesus face on it.
All he had to do was say" I found a cloth that will last 600 years,or 2000 years depending on the time he lived"
A cloth that nobody can tell how old it is.he did not have to involve jesus at all,unless he was jesus.
All he had to do was say" I found a cloth that will last 600 years,or 2000 years depending on the time he lived"
A cloth that nobody can tell how old it is.he did not have to involve jesus at all,unless he was jesus.
Its a pretend mystery like the Bermuda Triangle, The Yeti,that lump of "unknown " metal in India.There aint no scientists puzzling over this nonsense.
Dame Isabel Piczek
Event Horizon
Encoded holographic information
Get googlin'...
Event Horizon
Encoded holographic information
Get googlin'...
they all have different theories,but what sort of stuff is used that some can prove that it is paint on the image,while others prove its blood.did the faker mix blood and paint together.
And the blood scientists now has a blood type,while the paint scientists say there is oxide in it.
And the blood scientists now has a blood type,while the paint scientists say there is oxide in it.
Well it won't make me famous because I ate it but it was there all the same.
I think I read about her,does she talk about non swirling blackholes.
Einstein(talked about worm holes before everyone else) said to imagine a worm with two mouths,go to one mouth (blackhole)and you will come out in another (blackhole)but you will travel back in time to a younger universe.
I will check Isabel out later.
Einstein(talked about worm holes before everyone else) said to imagine a worm with two mouths,go to one mouth (blackhole)and you will come out in another (blackhole)but you will travel back in time to a younger universe.
I will check Isabel out later.
It's a quantum hologram.......created by a burst of energy.....
Battle of Anghiari, that's a proper mystery - seek and ye shall find!
" “The entire Resurrection process is akin to the Big Bang creation of the universe when something was created from nothing,” explains Piczek. “You can read the science of the Shroud, such as total lack of gravity, lack of entropy (without gravitational collapse), no time, no space—it conforms to no known law of physics.”
Dame Piczek created a one-fourth size sculpture of the man in the Shroud. When viewed from the side, it appears as if the man is suspended in mid air, indicating that the image defies previously accepted science. The phenomenon of the image brings us to a true event horizon, a moment when all of the laws of physics change drastically.
Dame Piczek contends that the image was created in an infinitesimally small fraction of a second and its formation was absent of the effects of gravity. "
Dame Piczek created a one-fourth size sculpture of the man in the Shroud. When viewed from the side, it appears as if the man is suspended in mid air, indicating that the image defies previously accepted science. The phenomenon of the image brings us to a true event horizon, a moment when all of the laws of physics change drastically.
Dame Piczek contends that the image was created in an infinitesimally small fraction of a second and its formation was absent of the effects of gravity. "
sounds good.hologams are like a films,they are not real,quantum says we could all be living in a sort of dream and we are all part of a game designed by our creator.
The ALLEGORY OF THE CAVE - PLATO - is on Youtube...nice animated film, saying much the same thing...
A man chained, a prisoner, watching the shadows on the wall...outside the cave is the true world which he cannot possibly imagine or perceive...
Velasquez,that sounds really interesting,you probably know this,but the laws of physics have broken down as it is,and nobody knows what to do,at the moment the maths don't add up.so I will look forward to reading up and see if I can understand piczek.i still enjoy even if I don't understand,but you have to remember in you post piczek is the creator.
the catholic church do not believe the shroud has jesus's face on it.but most other religions do believe it is the face of jesus.usually its the other way round.
I think we all live our own reality,we attract everything that happens to us,and then we blame someone else when things go wrong.all it is all done by our thinking.
in other words what a man thinks about life,will occur for him because the universal law will provide for what he thinks.
so if we think good thoughts good things will happen.
and visa versa.
that's my theory on everything.
in other words what a man thinks about life,will occur for him because the universal law will provide for what he thinks.
so if we think good thoughts good things will happen.
and visa versa.
that's my theory on everything.
The arms don't look right, but the face can't be a forgery, artists in the 13-14 century couldnZt paint in that way.
You should really start thinking about leaving a space after a comma, brassneck. Get important things in life like that correct and everything else will fall into place 
Didn't the owners of the shroud say no more tests?
That was some while ago, but either way the odds don't look good for it being what it is suggesting it is.
It's used as a talisman item for believers and the church allow it without confirming or denying, I guess that's a lesson learned over time since if it gets proven to be fake they look really silly again if they back it totally.
But then why is it treated as a relic, placed in a bullet proof box and implied it's a relic?
Because it's symbolism that the church are using as a cash cow to the collect desire of their belief.
It's the same as the list of proven fake relics made to support the Jewish claim on Jerusalem, that sarcophagus that they said housed jesus's bones but was lashed up to support a theory within last century, other words a con or manipulation.
List it with the holy lance (wrong) and the bones of martyrs or jesus's alleged foreskin.....or Brian's sandal ffs.
That was some while ago, but either way the odds don't look good for it being what it is suggesting it is.
It's used as a talisman item for believers and the church allow it without confirming or denying, I guess that's a lesson learned over time since if it gets proven to be fake they look really silly again if they back it totally.
But then why is it treated as a relic, placed in a bullet proof box and implied it's a relic?
Because it's symbolism that the church are using as a cash cow to the collect desire of their belief.
It's the same as the list of proven fake relics made to support the Jewish claim on Jerusalem, that sarcophagus that they said housed jesus's bones but was lashed up to support a theory within last century, other words a con or manipulation.
List it with the holy lance (wrong) and the bones of martyrs or jesus's alleged foreskin.....or Brian's sandal ffs.
Are they her under crackers?
She wants to put em through a hot wash
She wants to put em through a hot wash
I looked up your Dame on Wikipedia Velasquez and I found this
Isabel Piczek (born 1941) is a Hungarian born ecclesiastical artist and physicist, perhaps best known for her study of the Shroud of Turin, and who currently lives in Los Angeles. Her sister, Edith Piczec, was also a noted religious artist.
I'm quite willing to accept that she is an ecclesiastical artist without further proof but I can't find anything about her qualifications in Physics. Can you enlighten me please?
Isabel Piczek (born 1941) is a Hungarian born ecclesiastical artist and physicist, perhaps best known for her study of the Shroud of Turin, and who currently lives in Los Angeles. Her sister, Edith Piczec, was also a noted religious artist.
I'm quite willing to accept that she is an ecclesiastical artist without further proof but I can't find anything about her qualifications in Physics. Can you enlighten me please?
it's definitely not jesus. everyone knows jesus is a white guy.
razz
sorry to disappoint you but I have it on good authority that he was Jewish and born in what is now Northern Israel.
I'm not sure that would make him white, more a light brown - with long hair and a beard though, obviously.
sorry to disappoint you but I have it on good authority that he was Jewish and born in what is now Northern Israel.
I'm not sure that would make him white, more a light brown - with long hair and a beard though, obviously.
unnecessary - bible enough! don't need the dishes at the last supper (holy grail). Or spear of destiny? the book is the proof. Copies date from 80 AD. More copies of the new testement exist from that period than any other book of antiquity.
Have you read it Zorro? I mean, all of it, not just the bits they want you to read?
Beggars belief why anyone would want to live their lives from works of fiction thousands of years old ?
Just be a decent person,the majority of us know right from wrong and everything will be fine,no hell or fire and brimstone ffs.
Just be a decent person,the majority of us know right from wrong and everything will be fine,no hell or fire and brimstone ffs.
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