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06 Sep 15
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WTF Is going through Merkel's head?
And what do you know, the migrants are by a large margin mostly young single men, but the BBC always finds and interviews and films the small minority who are women or kids.
I find I'm feeling a bit like one of the conspiracy nuts - it does feel like manipulative propaganda from the media.
And what do you know, the migrants are by a large margin mostly young single men, but the BBC always finds and interviews and films the small minority who are women or kids.
I find I'm feeling a bit like one of the conspiracy nuts - it does feel like manipulative propaganda from the media.
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Cheap labour to keep the German machine functioning
Wait until Ireland take 10,000 they will be on the first boat over to Liverpool,and then the trouble will start.
http://www.rt.com/news/270214-bavaria-muslim-school-clothes/
Slowly they chip away bit by bit
Slowly they chip away bit by bit
More down to being elite.
Dont worry, you wont be able to read about the bad stuff being under the control of the bbc.
Dont worry, you wont be able to read about the bad stuff being under the control of the bbc.
Sonko is playing for Harlow Town at the minute looking for a league club
brassneck 06 Sep 15 23:21 Joined: 13 Feb 03 | Topic/replies: 5,490 | Blogger: brassneck's blog
Wait until Ireland take 10,000 they will be on the first boat over to Liverpool,and then the trouble will start.
Why would they? Ireland has much more generous unemployment benefits?
Wait until Ireland take 10,000 they will be on the first boat over to Liverpool,and then the trouble will start.
Why would they? Ireland has much more generous unemployment benefits?
Yeah my mate was saying he's good as gold. Totally different to the majority of footballers
they want to go to London.they believe that the streets of London is paved with gold.BUT seriously its a big problem,no matter what country takes refugees other countries that border the first country are going to have problems and what nobody tells us is that there is 12 million on the way.if governments don't act now.
I only met him a couple of times as a fan and he was charming.
Hopefully Reading will invite him home in the near future.
Hopefully Reading will invite him home in the near future.
if they wanted to go to Ireland they would have to put there watches back 50 years,
germany population down 2 million in 15 years
10k a day for the next 6 years.......
theres a few at calais if merkel wants them too
10k a day for the next 6 years.......
theres a few at calais if merkel wants them too
and another point I would like to make,once the arrive in Ireland they only have to cross the border and claim british status,and then they would be free to travel from larne to stranrear in Scotland.
Cameron to announce today, how many Britain will take. It is shocking what has happened in Syria, and we need to support these people.
I think we can take about 1/2 a million, and most other western countries should do the same. Facts is correct these are refugees not migrates and are typically young working age without (elderly) dependents. Some would say we should lock the borders, but why?
Impact on your life - very, very low
Impact on their life - immeasurable
I think we can take about 1/2 a million, and most other western countries should do the same. Facts is correct these are refugees not migrates and are typically young working age without (elderly) dependents. Some would say we should lock the borders, but why?
Impact on your life - very, very low
Impact on their life - immeasurable
facts when they leave Syria they are refugees.
then when they have landed at the first safe country eg turkey and they want to move to other countries they are then economic migrants as they are in no danger. Looking to settle in countries which can give them the most, mainly benefits.
then when they have landed at the first safe country eg turkey and they want to move to other countries they are then economic migrants as they are in no danger. Looking to settle in countries which can give them the most, mainly benefits.
its not just about letting a group of nice people in.
amongst them will be potential terrorists/extremists, this cannot be ignored.
Also Islam doesn't tend to integrate well with other communities. They want to introduce their own laws/rules, and expects Britain to change for them.
amongst them will be potential terrorists/extremists, this cannot be ignored.
Also Islam doesn't tend to integrate well with other communities. They want to introduce their own laws/rules, and expects Britain to change for them.
What he said.
Isis already claiming to have 4,000 agents in Europe through posing as refugees so far and wanting a worldwide caliphate.
Its great helping people but we're also just freely opening our doors to the most lethal enemy there now is on earth
Isis already claiming to have 4,000 agents in Europe through posing as refugees so far and wanting a worldwide caliphate.
Its great helping people but we're also just freely opening our doors to the most lethal enemy there now is on earth
I'm glad the good people of chit chat see through facts' mad ramblings. What a difference a few decades make. In living memory they hung the likes of Lord Haw Haw. ISIS tell us exactly what they intend to do and it is as easy as falling off a log. When it happens people should remember who were the agitators and facilitators. Treasonous dogs.
https://www.rebelmouse.com/arnews1936/greece-turning-into-a-war-zone-1334297944.html?xrs=RebelMouse_tw
Nice people coming in
Nice people coming in
A video shot just outside Budapest’s Keleti railway station shows Muslim migrants chanting “Allahu Akbar” and “f**k you” as they engage in running battles with police.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl16QDk2sig
Although mainstream media coverage of the migrant crisis has focused on happy families and children, footage not broadcast by TV networks shows a different side to some of those crossing into Europe.
Muslim “refugees” in Budapest chanted “Allahu Akbar” and “f**k you” while others in Italy attacked an old lady and threw feces at bystanders as Germany announced that it would be prepared to take 500,000 asylum seekers every year.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl16QDk2sig
Although mainstream media coverage of the migrant crisis has focused on happy families and children, footage not broadcast by TV networks shows a different side to some of those crossing into Europe.
Muslim “refugees” in Budapest chanted “Allahu Akbar” and “f**k you” while others in Italy attacked an old lady and threw feces at bystanders as Germany announced that it would be prepared to take 500,000 asylum seekers every year.
Impact on your life - very, very low
Try telling that to people who can't get a doctors appointment for 2 weeks because their area is awash with immigrants Swardean.
Or you could maybe tell those who were shunted down the housing ladder or those who can't get employment.
Try telling that to people who can't get a doctors appointment for 2 weeks because their area is awash with immigrants Swardean.
Or you could maybe tell those who were shunted down the housing ladder or those who can't get employment.
Why do you keep believing this crap. Stop beating up the lower sections of society. They are not the problem in the UK.
Stop looking down. Look up.
Stop looking down. Look up.
Why do people like Facts never understand anything?
If you've an influx of less skilled people or people prepared to work for less, it's the simple laws of supply and demand that the wages or employment propects of that existing sector of any society that are most affected and they will be displaced. It's precisely why Labour are leaking votes to UKIP. I've lost count of the number of times workign people have been on TV pointing this out. They get it.
And then, when given the above facts, the wages of the less skilled and unskilled are constantly suppressed which is so easily explained, you'll just go on about "bankers" or something...
If you've an influx of less skilled people or people prepared to work for less, it's the simple laws of supply and demand that the wages or employment propects of that existing sector of any society that are most affected and they will be displaced. It's precisely why Labour are leaking votes to UKIP. I've lost count of the number of times workign people have been on TV pointing this out. They get it.
And then, when given the above facts, the wages of the less skilled and unskilled are constantly suppressed which is so easily explained, you'll just go on about "bankers" or something...
At least five arrests were made in Frankfurt on Thursday night after a march by supporters of Turkish nationalism descended into bloody violence when they clashed with rival Kurd separatists.
Video of the riot has emerged on the same day Germany announced it will place 4,000 soldiers on standby over the weekend to help with a new wave of up to 40,000 refugees arriving in the country.
Police said The Thursday event was billed as a “solidarity march commemorating fallen Turkish soldiers”. According to FR Online to it was organised by the “Federation of Turkish young people” which campaigns on behalf of Turkey. The fracas involved a group of around 380 participant and started at the city’s main railway station at 18.30.
Soon after the Turkish supporters set off there were attacks by immigrant Kurd counter-demonstrators who used sticks, bottles and stones to attack marchers. One taxi driver reportedly had his car damaged in the brawl.
Police confirmed the counter-demonstrators were of Kurdish origin and quickly withdrew.
More than 40,000 people have died since the PKK (Kurdistan Workers’ Party) launched its armed campaign in 1984 calling for an independent Kurdish state within Turkey.
Now immigrants from both sides of that battle are carrying their fight onto the streets of Frankfurt.
Meanwhile, Germany will mobilise 4,000 soldiers in the next 48-hours to help with the entry of up to 40,000 refugees in the country, Defence Minister Ursula von der Leyen said on Friday.
She told Der Spiegel that she was placing the troops on alert with the expectation they could be asked to do more than just welcome the immigrant arrivals.
“The country can be sure that the Bundeswehr [German army] will be supporting” efforts to care for refugees, Von der Leyen said, adding that the army could do yet more if called upon.
“We are spreading these 4,000 soldiers across the country and they will intervene if the federal states [which are responsible for the initial uptake of refugees] request it,” a Defence Ministry spokesman told The Local.
“They will provide a helping hand, for example to set up a refugee camp, to help with organization, provide buses and drivers, other types of transport, medical services and equipment, anything of that kind.”
Record numbers of people from the Middle East and sub-Saharan Africa continue to pour into Europe, with around 7,600 entering Macedonia in the last 12 hours.
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http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09/11/watch-migrant-turks-and-kurds-battle-on-frankfurt-streets-german-army-called-in/
Video of the riot has emerged on the same day Germany announced it will place 4,000 soldiers on standby over the weekend to help with a new wave of up to 40,000 refugees arriving in the country.
Police said The Thursday event was billed as a “solidarity march commemorating fallen Turkish soldiers”. According to FR Online to it was organised by the “Federation of Turkish young people” which campaigns on behalf of Turkey. The fracas involved a group of around 380 participant and started at the city’s main railway station at 18.30.
Soon after the Turkish supporters set off there were attacks by immigrant Kurd counter-demonstrators who used sticks, bottles and stones to attack marchers. One taxi driver reportedly had his car damaged in the brawl.
Police confirmed the counter-demonstrators were of Kurdish origin and quickly withdrew.
More than 40,000 people have died since the PKK (Kurdistan Workers’ Party) launched its armed campaign in 1984 calling for an independent Kurdish state within Turkey.
Now immigrants from both sides of that battle are carrying their fight onto the streets of Frankfurt.
Meanwhile, Germany will mobilise 4,000 soldiers in the next 48-hours to help with the entry of up to 40,000 refugees in the country, Defence Minister Ursula von der Leyen said on Friday.
She told Der Spiegel that she was placing the troops on alert with the expectation they could be asked to do more than just welcome the immigrant arrivals.
“The country can be sure that the Bundeswehr [German army] will be supporting” efforts to care for refugees, Von der Leyen said, adding that the army could do yet more if called upon.
“We are spreading these 4,000 soldiers across the country and they will intervene if the federal states [which are responsible for the initial uptake of refugees] request it,” a Defence Ministry spokesman told The Local.
“They will provide a helping hand, for example to set up a refugee camp, to help with organization, provide buses and drivers, other types of transport, medical services and equipment, anything of that kind.”
Record numbers of people from the Middle East and sub-Saharan Africa continue to pour into Europe, with around 7,600 entering Macedonia in the last 12 hours.
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http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09/11/watch-migrant-turks-and-kurds-battle-on-frankfurt-streets-german-army-called-in/
Its an awful pity Cameron doesn't have the same respect for it.
Germany’s recent, surprise announcement of renewed border controls seems a direct consequence of its ill-fated decision to throw open its gates to all Syrians, a policy that has been fraught with problems from the outset.
Since Syrians enjoy a privileged status, suddenly everyone applying for asylum turns out to be Syrian.
In a press conference Tuesday afternoon, Minister of the Interior of the German state of Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania, Lorenz Caffier, confirmed suspicions about the origin of many supposed Syrian refugees. “At least a quarter of those refugees allegedly coming from Syria are not from Syria, but from other Arab or African countries,” said Caffier.
Caffier’s statement echoes the experience of Rainer Wendt, head of the German Police Union: “Almost without exception, every refugee pretends to be a Syrian when in fact, many come from other countries, even from sub-Saharan Africa,” he said.
“All present themselves as Syrians,” said a police officer stationed in Bavaria to Spiegel Online, “even if they are obviously black Africans.”
The discovery echoes comments made by the chief of the European border force FRONTEX, who said last week, “A lot of people get into Turkey [with] Syrian fake papers, because they know that they’ll get easier asylum in the EU… People who use these fake passports, speak mostly Arabic. They come from North Africa, the Middle East, but are economic refugees”.
Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee has criticised the European policy of open doors to “alleged-Syrian refugees” as signifying a sort of collective amnesia of the “lessons of 9/11.”
Huckabee made the comments on his podcast, “The Huckabee Exclusive,” where he offers commentary on current political events.
“Many Europeans have also forgotten the lessons of 9/11 as they allow waves of alleged Syrians refugees to stream across their borders and denounce anyone who questions it as being intolerant,” declared Huckabee. “Even as some of the newcomers were attacking and cursing police, throwing bottles, and shouting ‘Allahu akbar.’”
Earlier in the podcast, Huckabee said it was harder for Americans to get on planes through airport security than for terrorists to get into our country through our “very open borders.”
The explosion of faux “Syrian refugees” is just one element of the negative fallout from Germany’s decision to allow the unrestricted travel of Syrians into Germany. It has also irritated the countries neighboring Germany, especially those in Eastern Europe, by making Germany into a forceful magnet for refugees, who necessarily must cross through bordering states to reach it.
One commentator has suggested that Germany’s decision to reinstate border controls signifies an admission that “the practice of granting Syrian refugees asylum and allowing them unrestricted passage into Germany has failed.”
The abrupt arrival of some 60,000 people into Munich since the end of August has proved far too many for the city, showing that “while in theory the fundamental right to asylum knows no upper limit, in practice this limit is reached in a matter of days.”
Since Syrians enjoy a privileged status, suddenly everyone applying for asylum turns out to be Syrian.
In a press conference Tuesday afternoon, Minister of the Interior of the German state of Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania, Lorenz Caffier, confirmed suspicions about the origin of many supposed Syrian refugees. “At least a quarter of those refugees allegedly coming from Syria are not from Syria, but from other Arab or African countries,” said Caffier.
Caffier’s statement echoes the experience of Rainer Wendt, head of the German Police Union: “Almost without exception, every refugee pretends to be a Syrian when in fact, many come from other countries, even from sub-Saharan Africa,” he said.
“All present themselves as Syrians,” said a police officer stationed in Bavaria to Spiegel Online, “even if they are obviously black Africans.”
The discovery echoes comments made by the chief of the European border force FRONTEX, who said last week, “A lot of people get into Turkey [with] Syrian fake papers, because they know that they’ll get easier asylum in the EU… People who use these fake passports, speak mostly Arabic. They come from North Africa, the Middle East, but are economic refugees”.
Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee has criticised the European policy of open doors to “alleged-Syrian refugees” as signifying a sort of collective amnesia of the “lessons of 9/11.”
Huckabee made the comments on his podcast, “The Huckabee Exclusive,” where he offers commentary on current political events.
“Many Europeans have also forgotten the lessons of 9/11 as they allow waves of alleged Syrians refugees to stream across their borders and denounce anyone who questions it as being intolerant,” declared Huckabee. “Even as some of the newcomers were attacking and cursing police, throwing bottles, and shouting ‘Allahu akbar.’”
Earlier in the podcast, Huckabee said it was harder for Americans to get on planes through airport security than for terrorists to get into our country through our “very open borders.”
The explosion of faux “Syrian refugees” is just one element of the negative fallout from Germany’s decision to allow the unrestricted travel of Syrians into Germany. It has also irritated the countries neighboring Germany, especially those in Eastern Europe, by making Germany into a forceful magnet for refugees, who necessarily must cross through bordering states to reach it.
One commentator has suggested that Germany’s decision to reinstate border controls signifies an admission that “the practice of granting Syrian refugees asylum and allowing them unrestricted passage into Germany has failed.”
The abrupt arrival of some 60,000 people into Munich since the end of August has proved far too many for the city, showing that “while in theory the fundamental right to asylum knows no upper limit, in practice this limit is reached in a matter of days.”
Channel 4 news is still in full on leftie mode, giving Hungary a hard time for merely protecting its borders and acting as a frontier to Europe and following the rules.
They had footage full of (often angry) young men, the migrants making up the bulk of the numbers, but when they go to interview they managed to find some sad old woman to try and tug the heart strings. Interviewing 100 20 something angry migrants with fake documents wouldn't have the same effect.
There are AFAIK some unsavoury aspects in Hungarian politics but it's refreshing to have people stand up for themselves for once and say what they actually think. If Corbyn can, they can
They had footage full of (often angry) young men, the migrants making up the bulk of the numbers, but when they go to interview they managed to find some sad old woman to try and tug the heart strings. Interviewing 100 20 something angry migrants with fake documents wouldn't have the same effect.
There are AFAIK some unsavoury aspects in Hungarian politics but it's refreshing to have people stand up for themselves for once and say what they actually think. If Corbyn can, they can
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https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/644546021775814656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
will the bbc report this ?
https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/644546021775814656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
will the bbc report this ?
Anyone else notice a few powerful looking young men hiding their faces from the BBC cameras as they streamed through the borders into Europe.
Hardly desperate refugees.
Hardly desperate refugees.
Gun em down, even the babies turn into the @rse holes throwing bricks
I saw that as well mecca.
It's so obvious that isis are using this situation to infiltrate Europe yet no one in authority seems worried.
It's so obvious that isis are using this situation to infiltrate Europe yet no one in authority seems worried.
I think the UK gov are sensible worried, they just won't say it out loud as they'll get abuse for it.
Thank ---k we've Cameron and not Corby or Red Ed.
Thank ---k we've Cameron and not Corby or Red Ed.
I felt sorry for the poor petrified little refugees who were throwing bricks at police, starting fires and generally trashing the place and trying to fight on the Hungarian border. They definitely did appear to be meek pacifists just seeking a safe haven - I'll take two in my spare room and urge you all to do the same.
It's not like they are saying "please help us", that's not the impression given from lots of them.
There is a sense of entitlement, of a right to go where they please, and a sense of don't get in our way.
There is a sense of entitlement, of a right to go where they please, and a sense of don't get in our way.
Just the 2? You aint no humanist like Facts is, that's for sure.
The uk seem to be the only nation acting sensibly (apart from Denmark & Hungary), directing aid at the point of the problem and only accepting people who are refugees very near to the problem.
All countries now seem to be overwhelmed by the sheer scale of this problem. I know they are in a desperate situation, but this does need to be controlled who know who's coming in.
Germany now changing the rules on asylum -
1. Benefits to be halved
2. No one entering from another EU country can claim asylum
1. Benefits to be halved
2. No one entering from another EU country can claim asylum
You only need to shop in birmingham or get off at marble arch and shop in oxford st.
That will show you what is coming.
That will show you what is coming.
Merkel's policy:
1. Encourage migrants to come to Germany.
2. Criticise your neighbours' border controls.
3. Er, impose border controls.
1. Encourage migrants to come to Germany.
2. Criticise your neighbours' border controls.
3. Er, impose border controls.
It is so dangerous back home that they are forced to leave their wives and children on their own to travel to Europe. Do me a favour.
Yesterday morning German police shot dead a knife-wielding terrorist on the streets of Berlin after he stabbed a female police officer in the neck. The Iraqi citizen was a convicted terrorist and an asylum seeker who Germany had been powerless to deport because of his ‘human rights.’
Rafik Mohamad Yousef, 41, was a member of a terrorist group with links to al-Qaeda, and came to Germany as an asylum seeker. He was jailed for eight years in 2008 after being found guilty of planning to attack the Iraqi Prime Minister.
However, he was released in early 2013, after just five years behind bars, and was allowed to remain in Germany. He reportedly threatened police officers upon his release.
He claimed that his life was endangered back in his native Iraq, and therefore European Court of Human Rights rules did not permit his deportation. His safety was deemed to be more important than that of the German citizens he clearly posed a threat to.
Bild Newspaper claimed Yousef’s electronic tag was removed just hours before the attack on Thursday morning.
Yousef went for the female police officer as she stepped out of her patrol car, stabbing her in the neck, just above her protective clothing, The Telegraph reports.
The officer’s partner immediately drew his gun, shooting Yousef four times. Four more police vehicles arrived on the scene and one other officer is thought to have opened fire.
As well as the stab wounds, a stray bullet is thought to have struck the female officer in the kidney area. She was rushed to hospital where she received emergency surgery and is now thought to be in a stable condition.
Paramedics also attempted to save Yousef, but were unable to revive him.
Police initially attempted to present the case as a “random act of violence,” until his emerging terrorist credentials made this impossible towards the evening.
Dirk Feuerberg, Berlin’s chief prosecutor, said in a statement: “The person killed is an Iraqi citizen known to us who was convicted in 2008 of membership in a foreign terrorist organisation and sentenced to eight years imprisonment.”
Yousef was convicted along with three others for attempting to assassinate the former Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi during a visit to Berlin in 2004. The group was also convicted of membership of Ansar al-Islam, a jihadist group from Iraqi Kurdistan with links to Al-Qaeda.
Doubtful this will make the bbc website
Rafik Mohamad Yousef, 41, was a member of a terrorist group with links to al-Qaeda, and came to Germany as an asylum seeker. He was jailed for eight years in 2008 after being found guilty of planning to attack the Iraqi Prime Minister.
However, he was released in early 2013, after just five years behind bars, and was allowed to remain in Germany. He reportedly threatened police officers upon his release.
He claimed that his life was endangered back in his native Iraq, and therefore European Court of Human Rights rules did not permit his deportation. His safety was deemed to be more important than that of the German citizens he clearly posed a threat to.
Bild Newspaper claimed Yousef’s electronic tag was removed just hours before the attack on Thursday morning.
Yousef went for the female police officer as she stepped out of her patrol car, stabbing her in the neck, just above her protective clothing, The Telegraph reports.
The officer’s partner immediately drew his gun, shooting Yousef four times. Four more police vehicles arrived on the scene and one other officer is thought to have opened fire.
As well as the stab wounds, a stray bullet is thought to have struck the female officer in the kidney area. She was rushed to hospital where she received emergency surgery and is now thought to be in a stable condition.
Paramedics also attempted to save Yousef, but were unable to revive him.
Police initially attempted to present the case as a “random act of violence,” until his emerging terrorist credentials made this impossible towards the evening.
Dirk Feuerberg, Berlin’s chief prosecutor, said in a statement: “The person killed is an Iraqi citizen known to us who was convicted in 2008 of membership in a foreign terrorist organisation and sentenced to eight years imprisonment.”
Yousef was convicted along with three others for attempting to assassinate the former Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi during a visit to Berlin in 2004. The group was also convicted of membership of Ansar al-Islam, a jihadist group from Iraqi Kurdistan with links to Al-Qaeda.
Doubtful this will make the bbc website
Those nice young muslim gentlemen at the back always seem to adopt a women and children first policy at the border check point.
What is so depressing is the depiction, by the media, of this invasion. It does show how powerful a picture is to dupe europe into thinking 'ah poor immigrants - let's let them in'
Saw another polish killer and accomplice did a woman in recently. Let them all in as well as the muslims.
Saw another polish killer and accomplice did a woman in recently. Let them all in as well as the muslims.
yep and their mantra is - "We are coming to your country because we don't like our country... oh and we don't like your country so you'll have to change it"
The media is showing a palpable pro-immigration bias; it's true, and it's wrong. However, in fairness, it's nowhere near the level of the anti-immigration bias on these forums.
I think Europe just has to take a harder line on this issue because we don't have enough space to take everyone and I don't see why we should suddenly be fine with the idea of illegal immigration just because Syria's a total mess, but from reading the Betfair forums you'd be forgiven for thinking they were a mixture of terrorists, rapists and zombies.
I think Europe just has to take a harder line on this issue because we don't have enough space to take everyone and I don't see why we should suddenly be fine with the idea of illegal immigration just because Syria's a total mess, but from reading the Betfair forums you'd be forgiven for thinking they were a mixture of terrorists, rapists and zombies.
A truly awful story. Worse still, entirely predictable.
The Swedes have it even worse.
The Swedes have it even worse.
Germany handing out 400 euros per adult & 200 euro per child under 16 on arrival/ registration
The eu spend some 350 million on pro eu propaganda. They even financed pro eu studies to the tune of 65million euros (in one case in the UK) - so you wonder why the bbc is pro eu - YES they get money from the eu too!!!
what a crock of sh!t.
what a crock of sh!t.
How long before Premiership footballers, for example, will be obliged to wear those ridiculous T-shirts before a game?
I prefer this t-shirt, currently popular among German builders
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