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TheBetterBettor
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Documentary examining the winners and losers in Britain's gambling revolution.
Pause Switch to Standard View Britain at the Bookies BBC1 tonight 9pm
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Report spellingandgrammarchecker July 21, 2015 11:23 PM BST
bigH   
21 Jul 15 23:16 
High Street bookies won't exist in 10 years time


Wanna bet?
Report Facts July 22, 2015 1:09 AM BST
'...........Yet there remain concerns about the proliferation of the highly-addictive fixed odds betting terminals which allow stakes of up to £100 that can be lost at a stroke. Despite an increase in tax on the machines from 5 per cent to 25 per cent by George Osborne in his Budget last month, there are calls for greater restrictions on the high-stakes machines.

Last night the Department for Culture Media and Sport declined to say whether there would be fresh moves against fixed odds machines when a review of gambling measures is published on Wednesday. Opponents want to see maximum stakes slashed from £100 to £2, but it is expected the Government will stop short of this and instead propose cooling off periods for gamblers who use the machines.

Because the number of fixed-odds terminals per shop is limited to four, firms have opened more outlets. Current rules do not require firms to submit planning applications, allowing bookmakers to move into premises left empty by another business. They are classed in the same way as estate agents, banks and building societies.

Under the government’s plans, local authorities will be able to limit the number of shops through planning rules if they are concerned about clusters. Local communities will be given a “proper voice” on gambling on the high street, with their views taken into account during the planning application process. In February research from Deloitte found that 52 per cent of people wanted to see fewer betting shops on their high streets.

A Government source said: “We know that lots of people are worried about the numbers of betting shops that have sprung up on their high streets in recent years.

“It is only right to give local communities the power to object to a new betting shop if they feel they already have too many on their doorstep, the balance has to be right.”.........'





The above is a piece from April of 2014. Has the power for Councils to ban the opening  of new shops, because of the increase in the use of FOBTs, been implemented ?
Report akabula July 22, 2015 1:39 AM BST
Because the number of fixed-odds terminals per shop is limited to four, firms have opened more outlets. Current rules do not require firms to submit planning applications, allowing bookmakers to move into premises left empty by another business. They are classed in the same way as estate agents, banks and building societies.

That certainly was the case pre the increase to 25% but since then it's had the opposite effect with both Laddies and Hills closing circa 80 units each.
There are probably more from other firms but these are two examples that I know for a fact.
Report spellingandgrammarchecker July 22, 2015 2:36 PM BST
Somebody posted on here that the Laddies shop in Leicester isn't going to reopen.

The one where the manageress, who was on her own after 10-00 p.m. was knocked out, raped and robbed.

That should cheer up The Baron, he likes my rape reports.

Any mention of shops like that on the programme as I never saw all of it?

Any mention of single manning at night, robberies, drug dealing, fights, arson?
Report TheChaser July 22, 2015 2:58 PM BST
Capt__F 21 Jul 15 10:18 Joined: 10 Jun 08 | Topic/replies: 10,120 | Blogger: Capt__F's blog
Chaser

infamous con man John Bailey changed his bets by using a pencil.


Just read about it after you said it the pencil man
Report BARROWBOY July 22, 2015 2:59 PM BST
not really,the nearest we got was when tony,the coral manager,arranged for his daughter to go work in a shop that was notorious for troublemakers
Report bongo July 22, 2015 10:06 PM BST
Has there been any betting shop manager ever in human history who has explained how a FOBT works? Or how the winner of a cartoon race is decided.
Report pawras July 22, 2015 11:11 PM BST
Just watched it on iplayer, was that some sort of Coral Pr video or something??


Felt sorry for that Stuart kid as he didn’t seem all there to me, I was happy when it said he’d got a job, but dunno about chef considering his toast…..
Report The Leopard July 22, 2015 11:41 PM BST
Just starting again on BBC one now
Report akabula July 22, 2015 11:45 PM BST
Not just his toast pawras but his flat looked manky.
Report TheBetterBettor July 27, 2015 8:54 PM BST
we go again.
Report mafeking July 27, 2015 8:59 PM BST
steve palmer from the racing post starring tonight
Report RLKingPunter July 27, 2015 9:11 PM BST
5k at 2/1 yeh we.ll take it .....hahahaha
Report rob_dylan July 27, 2015 9:13 PM BST
Who is this tw@t tw@tting on about the tw@tting golf?   Daft coont.
Report The Leopard July 27, 2015 9:19 PM BST
Steve
Report stonecold- July 27, 2015 9:20 PM BST
pms;Laugh
Report The Leopard July 27, 2015 9:23 PM BST
Lost £75,000 previously
Report Hamsterdam July 27, 2015 9:23 PM BST
This guy needs to seek help
Report crags July 27, 2015 9:24 PM BST
Andy Capp at Doncaster has got the bookies quaking in their boots with his £3 bets on horses with big feet
Report RLKingPunter July 27, 2015 9:26 PM BST
the only good thing so far is norman wisdoms bird
Report i_agree_with_nick July 27, 2015 9:29 PM BST
This is much better than last week's programme
Report TheBetterBettor July 27, 2015 9:39 PM BST
traders allow to back on other bookies....ARBING must be rife
Report Ron-Russian July 27, 2015 9:46 PM BST
what a loser this palmer is,

who the **** would read his bit in the rp about his betting
Report Ron-Russian July 27, 2015 9:49 PM BST
surly the ending to this is norman wisdoms bird ****s goes
home with someone else
Report paddletoe July 27, 2015 9:49 PM BST
Get in there Lulu.

What are the chances of that!
Report The Leopard July 27, 2015 9:52 PM BST
They filmed 5 races and are only showing the ones where their punters had the winners
Report paddletoe July 27, 2015 9:52 PM BST
Just started watching it. Who is this Steve that backed MVG?
Report Ron-Russian July 27, 2015 9:52 PM BST
what a mug, looking to get rich in the 9 months, wac
Report Makybe_Diva July 27, 2015 9:53 PM BST
Aww, Norman Wisdom and his lady are really sweet Love

Watching this on record.
Report Ron-Russian July 27, 2015 9:55 PM BST
best thing she can do if have the kid & **** off &
lose this loser!
Report Ron-Russian July 27, 2015 9:57 PM BST
you can already read how this is going a end up.
palmers bird gonna ended running off with successful norman wisdom
Report Ovalman. July 27, 2015 9:59 PM BST
The tipster was a degen although Andy Caps wife brought some colour to the programme
Report TheBetterBettor July 27, 2015 9:59 PM BST
nothing about the exchanges or  spread betting...best to dump this cheese fest.
Report paddletoe July 27, 2015 10:00 PM BST
You just don't get the characters in the bookies that you used to. The best way to get off those roulette machines is to go in some day with a hammer and smash them all to pieces. No better way to self exclude yourself than that.
Report TheBetterBettor July 27, 2015 10:01 PM BST
their was a documentary on channel 4 years ago about spread betting...but I cant remember it....
Report TheBetterBettor July 27, 2015 10:02 PM BST
*there
Report Makybe_Diva July 27, 2015 10:03 PM BST
Yay! Late Night Request wins! Excited
Report Hamsterdam July 27, 2015 10:03 PM BST
That was good viewing makes you want to have a bet. Not sure this is the purpose.
Report akabula July 27, 2015 10:05 PM BST
I liked Andy Capp's approach. Seems lucky in love and gambling.
Report Makybe_Diva July 27, 2015 10:07 PM BST
Yes, Andy's lady is lovely. Very tastefully dressed too.
Report Makybe_Diva July 27, 2015 10:08 PM BST
Love the new avatar, Aka.
Report akabula July 27, 2015 10:10 PM BST
I'm sick of all the divisional stuff coming from the SNP so flying the flag for the Union.
Report I WAS GUNNA July 27, 2015 10:18 PM BST
S Palmer Dope
Report Makybe_Diva July 27, 2015 10:23 PM BST
Mr Makybe has just come home I will watch the rest if this tomorrow.

This is much better than last week's programme. I switched that off after 10 minutes.
Report a bitofinterest July 27, 2015 10:37 PM BST
i did the same with my grilled sausages
Report The Leopard July 27, 2015 10:51 PM BST
Marvellous Sizzles Sausagey !
Report GLASGOWCALLING July 27, 2015 11:21 PM BST
did that punter actually give the bookie back £40 " for a drink "............ AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Happy
Report The Leopard July 27, 2015 11:26 PM BST
He was an owner.
Report akabula July 27, 2015 11:32 PM BST
They gave him 18s a 16/1 shot for £20 so effectively he gave them the 2 points back.
Report akabula July 27, 2015 11:34 PM BST
That Steve guy just signed his resignation letter with that performance.
And I don't think the girl will hang around him for much longer either.
Report GLASGOWCALLING July 28, 2015 12:08 AM BST
... should have done the tommy cooper trick and stuck a teabag in his hod.. " get yourself a drink ".   HappyHappy
Report pawras July 28, 2015 7:34 AM BST
How the fk did that scroaty old bloke doing £1 bets pull that nice looking girl????????????????????????

But at least he seems to have to some self control unlike that Steve guy. I can't see that girl staying with him.
Report i_agree_with_nick July 28, 2015 11:33 AM BST
How the fk did that scroaty old bloke doing £1 bets pull that nice looking girl????????????????????????

Some people will do anything to get on TV.


Steve should stick to golf.
Report kenny mann July 28, 2015 11:42 AM BST
I think Steve is not all that dumb, and was playing up to his I love a bet image which he portrays in his column.
Report Makybe_Diva July 28, 2015 11:59 AM BST
You could be right, Kenny.
Report Facts July 28, 2015 12:23 PM BST
...or not.
Report treble July 28, 2015 1:21 PM BST
That bloke with cap was funny.

When I first saw him go and get his paper at 6am, put on his horse racing garb, touch his lucky horseshoe and go on about how being at the track gives you an edge, I thought he was gonna have some decent bets. At least a fifty or a ton a time. Pi55ed myself when he put his £1 on.

Then I thought, he's got a better gambling life than me. He has nice days out at the track with his girlfriend, can win a few quid to pay for his day out and maybe nab a little profit. Plus, he's never gonna get in trouble with his staking, and during the week, he goes back to caring for disabled people.

Got the right idea imo. You just think though, even if he'd a stuck just a couple of quid extra on those 18 and 20/1 shots, he'd have had a blinding day.
Report kenny mann July 28, 2015 1:33 PM BST
Agreed, treble. I liked his idea of watching who's talking to who.For instance the trainer who had 2 horses in the race, and all the frantic chat involved the outsider of the two. Or maybe he just got lucky.
Report Make my hay July 28, 2015 3:09 PM BST
Anybody know which horse has the biggest feet in the next race at Beverley? Tongue Out
Report kenny mann July 28, 2015 3:28 PM BST
why, is it soft?
Report Foinavon July 28, 2015 4:09 PM BST
When it's raining, pick the one with the longest eyelashes, especially over the sticks.Cool
Report Make my hay July 28, 2015 4:22 PM BST
Yes Kenny, I'm just trying out my new system .

- Big  hooves on soft ground = Winners

I have no idea which horse has the biggest feet so I've made no bets today.
Report kenny mann July 28, 2015 4:36 PM BST
I see, Mmh, the chap ,last night said smaller feet go less deeply into the surface so the horse will go faster.
Report Make my hay July 28, 2015 5:03 PM BST
No sorry Kenny the chap with the flat cap said "We're looking for horses with bigger feet not small feet cause  smaller feet go deeper into the ground"

But it's OK Kenny I understand you were looking to much at his girlfriend and not paying attention to what he was talking about. Laugh

Have a look again on bbc Iplayer - at 12.30 minutes.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0648znz/britain-at-the-bookies-2-punter-vs-bookie
Report kenny mann July 28, 2015 6:35 PM BST
I did and you're correct. Do you get a good enough view on TV to employ this strategy?
Report Make my hay July 28, 2015 7:21 PM BST
Sadly not, and the form books don't give any information on this subject either. So there's definitely a gap in the market.
I'm thinking of going round the country with a ruler, take hooves measurements, make a website. WWW.Racehorsesfeetsize.co.uk/. then go Dragons' Den and make millions.
Report kenny mann July 28, 2015 8:28 PM BST
lol, I prefer his other method. Watch who's speaking with who.
Report Capt__F July 28, 2015 10:18 PM BST
very attractive Goshia ? loved her boots
Report Foinavon July 28, 2015 11:50 PM BST
There must be some very rich farriers, Make my Hay. They are in possession of this all important statistic, but they're not telling and who can blame them.
Report GT July 29, 2015 12:14 AM BST
There is a horse with big feet running at Redcar tomorrow 5-15 race :-)....roystons aboard
Report blackestnight July 29, 2015 1:35 AM BST
It seems the next one is about the 24/7 culture. Im watching Chelsea and Barca, I bet there are 50 + markets available on this match right now.
Report i_agree_with_nick August 3, 2015 9:21 PM BST
Must have been some forumites at Romford.
Report The Leopard August 3, 2015 9:25 PM BST
He forgets all his loses Laugh
Report TheBetterBettor August 3, 2015 9:27 PM BST
now getting boring .....no mention of exchanges or spread betting.
Report Hamsterdam August 3, 2015 9:40 PM BST
That chav had £350 to put in one of those machines wtf
Report The Leopard August 3, 2015 9:59 PM BST
Drug dealing profits
Report Ron-Russian August 3, 2015 10:00 PM BST
why aint they focusing more on how they restrict your bets
if they think you can beat them more than focusing on how
their keeping an eye out for the problem gambler as if
there the good guy Laugh
Report Facts August 3, 2015 11:24 PM BST
Professional gambler has a hundred on, and doesn't know the colours of his horse ' which one ? which is it ? '

Utter crap
Report TheBetterBettor August 3, 2015 11:31 PM BST
Start of the show was quite interesting. Showing you the demise of the Dog Tracks.
Report a bitofinterest August 3, 2015 11:34 PM BST
the pro gambler kept backing the favourite Crazy
Report Dobbo August 3, 2015 11:43 PM BST
To be fair he bets on darts, football etc. Clearly said he knew fa about horses.
Report Ron-Russian August 4, 2015 12:00 AM BST
darts and football? you know his talking b0llocks then Laugh
Report Facts August 4, 2015 12:00 AM BST
Or anything else if the truth be known !
Report Facts August 4, 2015 12:01 AM BST
Laugh
Report Dobbo August 4, 2015 12:18 AM BST
I note some doubt then that Corals reward winning punters with an all expenses paid day at the races.
Report a bitofinterest August 4, 2015 12:38 AM BST
dont all bookmakers Crazy
Report dukeofpuke August 4, 2015 2:24 PM BST
there was a woman a few years ago who got the vip treatment from hills.i think she was a branch manager at the halifax on about £40k a year.she was one of their biggest clients in the £100ks, guess where the money came from, and then guess what happened to her in court, guess what happened to hills
Report Capt__F August 4, 2015 2:52 PM BST
never heard that one duke any more details ?
Report Gallivanter August 5, 2015 3:50 PM BST
Might be this one:
Bank worker jailed for stealing £127,000 to fund gambling addiction

She got two years and had to pay back £1 as token compensation.

.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/bank-worker-jailed-stealing-127000-5619090
Report dukeofpuke August 5, 2015 3:57 PM BST
not that one
Report Gallivanter August 5, 2015 4:00 PM BST
Maybe there's a gang of them. Judging by her picture, she would be Miss Big.
Report DIE LINKE August 5, 2015 4:49 PM BST
Notice that the Corals manageress waited until she was sure the scrote who did his £2500+ was skint before banning him!
Report crags August 5, 2015 11:47 PM BST
On again now on BBC1
Report Zazu August 5, 2015 11:51 PM BST
Dobbo    04 Aug 15 00:18 
I note some doubt then that Corals reward winning punters with an all expenses paid day at the races.


Not as much as I doubt a  pro punter can get his punts on via the coral mobile phone app Laugh
Report alfee August 6, 2015 12:09 AM BST
Anyone spot Rodger barton at the greyhound track, from the series World’s Greatest Food Markets                                                                      never new he was a bookie (The bastard of billingsgate) greedy old fecker Laugh
Report crags August 6, 2015 12:17 AM BST
That bookie at Romford was a sound guy, and he knows the end is coming.
Report westfour4 August 6, 2015 12:47 AM BST
Crl PR man is as deluded as the punter. Excited about Gamble awareness week, because you think being one of Five can self regulate but your time on the High street is rapidly closing in.

On the whole all 3 series can be pulled apart very easy.
Report Jack Hacksaw August 6, 2015 4:54 PM BST
Why is it that the phrase 'professional punter courted by Coral's' doesn't ring true?

Last week the Coral PR man was explaining dog, I think, betting to some women.  What was that all about?
Report MC Roller August 6, 2015 5:29 PM BST
I'm going to phone Clare up, and say I believe in ghosts, Santa  Claus and the gambling gods, but I don't believe in your mob laying me £50 the fav on the 2.15 at Southwell. Who would have thought that Simon, Santa Claus is running about somewhere yet a bookie can't lay a small bet. At least Santa Claus delivers his presents, and doesn't refuse to deliver little johnnie his Rubik's cube because he's smarter than all the other kids.
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bigH   
21 Jul 15 23:16 
High Street bookies won't exist in 10 years time

spellingandgrammarchecker
Wanna bet?


I overestimated

https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/8251068/william-hill-close-almost-half-shops-putting-4500-jobs-risk/
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