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By:
artie
When: 15 Jul 15 19:05
"The 25 year old Norwegian man later emailed the victim and admitted to sexually assaulting her regularly, telling her that he had used her body for his own  short term gratification " What an idiot.
By:
Facts
When: 15 Jul 15 19:09
^ that's one for the Judge !
By:
History Maker
When: 15 Jul 15 19:26
I've been 'tossed off' by at least two ex-girlfriends when I was effectively unconscious.

Also, with one crazy girl I went out with, we frequently slept together with no memory of it whatsoever the next day. Only conversation about it was whether she needed to get the morning after pill.
By:
bigmo
When: 15 Jul 15 21:07
It's rape in my opinion and he's a sad b'stard not living in the real world.
By:
History Maker
When: 15 Jul 15 21:20
Yeah, I never have a fiddle, unless I'm 100% sure. Just the way it is.
By:
Roger The Butler
When: 16 Jul 15 00:37
PatraTheCat   
15 Jul 15 01:29 
'.........Magnus Meyer Hustveit had been having sex with the victim as she slept for almost a year


She slept for almost a year? Makes Rip Van Winkle look like an insomniac. I'm surprised she could even remember him when she woke up.
By:
ebulGery
When: 16 Jul 15 23:06
I will come back for one last reply...yes I expected the reaction I got

My point was I think if he had penetrative sex with him she would have noticed...she would woken up, the same with oral sex.
She may pretended to be asleep because she enjoyed it more that way

If he just rubbed himself up against her for sexual gratification that is not rape.
Also if a women is a man's girlfriend and in bed with him, then that must be for sex.
If a woman does not want sex she sleeps in her own bed, which is inviolate. That is her responsibility.

I am against rape, but only real rape, the sort when men jump out of the bushes and violently rapes a women, etc.
But not the pretend rape we have now, if a women is in bed with a man or agrees to sex ..she is up for it.

If a man punished and effectively has his life destroyed by this, I will condemn the offending female as worthless,
as I think she is.


I notice in this case the women has waived her right to anonymity, I bet she has. She is thinking of all the money she will make
from selling her story, particularly to women's magazines, where she probably got this from.

As for the man admitting it, I am sure what he admitted to, he admitted to sex ok, but I do not think this was rape

That is my opinion and I am happy to stand by it.

Yet again I try to defend us men...but will no doubt be damned for it by men??........oh well
By:
doantwin2easy
When: 16 Jul 15 23:21
She is thinking of all the money she will make
from selling her story, particularly to women's magazines


"Hello" will probably buy it but I'm not sure about "ok"
By:
Capt__F
When: 16 Jul 15 23:26
Grazi ?
By:
irishone
When: 17 Jul 15 01:27
Every man knows when to stop
If he doesn't he is a criminal
By:
ebulGery
When: 17 Jul 15 01:48
Well that may be Irish

But I still feel women must take some responsibility here.
If women claim equality, then they must take some responsibility for their own actions, not just say I am just a helpless female,
and blame it all on men.

At the moment they appear to both want their cake and eat it. I feel men are rather stupid in allowing women this.
Men need to wise up a little, or there are going to be a great many miscarriages of justice
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 17 Jul 15 10:24
B/G I presume you don't have kids? Thank god for that is all I will say.

This man raped her while she was asleep on medication (hence why she did not wake up), he admitted he raped her and our facked up justice system that'll lock you up for getting into a scrap in town on a Saturday night or not paying your tv license decides because he admitted it and confirmed the poor women's thoughts that he does not deserve to serve prison time, the facking judge should be locked up for making that decision.

Anybody who is defending him is a sicko who needs serious help.
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Jul 15 11:21
On medication, curious to know what and would it affect sleep, was she eg unable to hear her alarm clock in the morning?
By:
Pleasegivemeanailedontip
When: 17 Jul 15 11:32
Dont know the ins and outs of the case but can see the argument for a middle ground in the law where something is neither moral or criminal. Some people are creeps and should be slapped, dumped, maybe have someones dad threaten them. That doesnt necessarily mean an expensive trial is required to deliver justice. I dont completely understand the necessity for this particular law to divide between everything on one side being wholesome acceptable behaviour and then everything on the other side being sick violent criminal behaviour that needs someone locking up.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 17 Jul 15 12:55
My point was I think if he had penetrative sex with him she would have noticed...she would woken up, the same with oral sex.
She may pretended to be asleep because she enjoyed it more that way


The guy who was there at the time, says she was sleeping and that he had pentrative sex with her whilst she slept, but sitting at his computer the forum beast as usual presumes he knows more than the person who was actually there having sex with her.

if a women is in bed with a man or agrees to sex

You're a sick ****. So when a woman tells a man they don't want to have sex with them that's not enough she has to actively go and lock herself in another room otherwise she's agreed that he can violate her when she is sleeping?
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 17 Jul 15 13:06
calling someone a forum beast........think you need to seek help
By:
trader pj
When: 17 Jul 15 13:07
all of this analysis has to be re analysed with the fact in mind that this woman was Irish ahahhahahaahahaa
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 17 Jul 15 13:22
Perfectly appropriate G1 given his views on rape and his previous views expressed on kiddy porn.
By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 17 Jul 15 13:36
Pleasegivemeanailedontip   
17 Jul 15 11:32 
Dont know the ins and outs


Laugh
By:
jamesdean
When: 17 Jul 15 14:10
Shrewd dude, the cretin is obviously an attention seeker looking for a reaction to feed his lack of attention in normal life outside of the forum. Internet Troll I think is the term. Best thing to do is starve him of the attention he craves and just simply ignore him.
By:
PatraTheCat
When: 17 Jul 15 14:53
Ebul certainly isn't a troll, but I think he would do well to admit that in this instance he was wrong. The thing is that in many ways he has a point regarding women seeming to want their cake and eat it nowadays, but by stooping so low as to say that he thinks this woman was lying even though the man confessed to it, all he'll do is reduce the validity of any points he makes in the future.

I mean, if you can't sell a mysogynistic argument on Chit Chat, there's probably something wrong with your argument!
By:
ebulGery
When: 17 Jul 15 15:29
B/G I presume you don't have kids? Thank god for that is all I will say.

The woman is 28 years old...she is not a kid!

Her alleged rapist is 25 years old..3 years younger.

We were invited to give our opinions on this thread, I gave mine

Mine is I think she is lying, why do you have a problem with that?

I may be right I may be wrong, make up your own mind
By:
akabula
When: 17 Jul 15 15:38
Surely nobody could sleep through sex.
I would have thought she must become aware of it at some time unless she was full of dope or drink.
By:
Facts
When: 17 Jul 15 15:39
To say she lying is one thing. To state that all women are up for it just because they happen to be in bed with a man , is utter stupidity.
By:
jamesdean
When: 17 Jul 15 15:46
To get the best reaction or attention, one has to be most controversial.
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 17 Jul 15 15:56
You think she is not telling the truth B/G??

It was the rapist who said he raped her, is that hard to comprehend? He admitted raping her as in his own words he wanted to ****.
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 17 Jul 15 15:58
c u m
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Jul 15 16:05
He admitted to doing something wrong, his use of porn had something to do with this case...however I am not sure he admitted to rape and I am not sure the woman was clear in her own mind that it was rape, otherwise why did she stay with him after the first time....he did something wrong and his use of porn possibly in bed as she was beside him was pertly to blame.
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 17 Jul 15 16:07
He admitted he put his penis inside her vagina without her consent. That my ignorant friends is rape, is that simple enough for ya?
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Jul 15 16:09
people can be led into admitting something by manipulation that they do not really believe....it was something in a e-mail while he was in Norway that he said..its not straightforward innocent people confess to things.
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Jul 15 16:10
I would like to se what was actually said in the e-mail.
By:
tips
When: 17 Jul 15 16:15
a very important part ye are all missing is she was on a lot of medicine at the time which made her very tired and sleepy
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Jul 15 16:16
what was the medication, it would be important to know.
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Jul 15 16:21
The fact that it was necessary to mention that she was on medication raises questions in itself.
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Jul 15 16:24
Where there doubts in the minds of her own lawyers that meant this had to be said?
By:
ebulGery
When: 17 Jul 15 22:58
I will have one last try

What has happened? a boyfriend has had sex with his girlfriend, she is his girlfriend,

because she wants that

Ok he has been a bit naughty and poked his dingle in perhaps not at the right time, but what harm has been done?????

I do not think he could have doing this for a year and her not notice as she claimed, she would have noticed it next morning

surely, if not during. So why did she not bring it up at the time. Sleep in another bed, another room.

If we went back to the 1950's I am sure a woman would have accepted this  as normal, she would have slapped her husband's wrist

he would have stopped.

The fuss this woman is kicking up is ridiculous.

He has been punished, what do people want, hanging, drawing and quartering

He is 3 years younger than her, he looks quite a nice bloke, I admit he has been naughty but that is all

ps

apologies for my opening couple of posts, well I had just backed a couple of losers, I was a bit niggly.

But I still think I am basically right.

The vindictiveness  of our modern society really sickens me and gets me down at times, so I admit I sometimes reply in kind.
By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 17 Jul 15 23:07
ebul

are you short, ugly, and don't get a shag too often?
By:
Facts
When: 17 Jul 15 23:25
ebulGery


The excuses / reasoning you are using in your argument are worthless. You appear to be condoning rape.

You come across as a mysogonist who believe women are there to be treated  as second class citizens,  And be the 'plaything ' of  men as and when they see fit - and be grateful for the attention.

If they have a problem, then a pat on the shoulder and a ' don't you worry your pretty little head about it ' is all that is required. After all if the man is her boyfriend or husband, then he has ' rights' and after all she belongs to him. He owns her.

You belong in the dark ages.
By:
ebulGery
When: 18 Jul 15 00:41
spellingandgrammarchecker  • July 17, 2015 11:07 PM BST 


ebul


are you short, ugly, and don't get a shag too often?


How did you know that grammerShockedSad

After all if the man is her boyfriend or husband, then he has ' rights' and after all she belongs to him. He owns her.

I totally agree with that FactsHappy

Anyway I will stop digging, I should never have started on this thread

Although I have legitimate concerns about how rape is now being defined now,
and I rarely women who say they have raped or abused now...there just too many lies being told
By:
ebulGery
When: 18 Jul 15 00:41
beleive
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