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We where lead to believe Schumacher was an animal driver fact is he had better car , like vettel in red bull and now the mercedes
team mates all fall out also why have teams and just admit your out to win and care for no one |
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F1 is doomed simply because it is so dull to watch. It can be considered interesting as long as you dont have to watch what they jokingly call a race. Professional sport has to be entertaining otherwise the public won't part with their money and F1 ceased to be entertaining many moons ago.
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people have been saying it's doomed for the last 20 years but the attendance figures say otherwise.
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I miss the noise
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its boring by design
the whole starting grid bias, and massive inequality in cars/engines. and don't get me started on Mr Dull ![]() |
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Maybe some of you should Google MotoGPfuel allowance for some relevant info...because it IS restricted.
Also, it is NOT all about speed because, if that was true, the fastest 'bike would win the race. Very often it doesn't. It is, as is the case in all types of racing, a combination of strategies to enable your rider/driver/runner/swimmer/cyclist to cross the finishing line first. Occasionally, there may be some kudos in 'fastest lap' times, but it is irrelevant really, because if the track was long enough there wouldn't be any f**king laps! It would be starting point and finishing point. Regarding 'massive inequality'...the engines are provided by three or four manufacturers with very little difference between first team and satellite teams...its just that the first team gets the updates first. With regard to an 'unequal car'...why not design it equal? In fact, why not design it better than the others? You all seem to speak from the exhaust pipe...but at least you're still watching. |
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I don't watch it. Never have, never will.
Give me a wall, a wet coat of paint, and a comfy chair, any day ![]() |
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Me too. Creosote is a personal favourite. Especially with a couple of beers on a nice summer day.
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I've tried a few times but it's not for me. Maybe they could have a female naked version?
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Ad get rid of the cars.
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They could just run around frolicking.
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Formula yawn? Fans suggest how to spice up F1
BBC news today http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/32834519 |
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Very dull stuff. People in the pits with computers saying he can shave 1/1000 of a second off in turn 15, and the commentator saying the driver is allowed to use MDF or PDF here or something.
I would prefer to see a race where they were not allowed extra fuel or change tyres or come into the pit. Just a race on the track. I would also prefer to see football (soccer) use only one sub. It is all getting a bit like the "sport" of American Football where teams have 45 players (I kid you not), and the game is mostly two guys in a studio saying wasn't that amazing. |
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the commentator saying the driver is allowed to use MDF or PDF here or something.
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Quite a few suggestions there...mostly silly ones.
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Instead of one long race perhaps 2/3 shorter ones. The selection is made very early on and after that it's a procession.
Get rid of practice and qualifying days. No tyre changes or pit stops. Draw for grid places. Giving the fastest car/driver a start makes for very boring races. Less rules and regulations about car/engine design. The object is simply to get the car first over the line at the end of the race. Swap the drivers and cars around so we really know which is the best car and the best driver. The best driver driving the fastest car every event again becomes very boring. No computer or radio contact between car/ driver and pits. Decide whether it's meant to be a race/sporting event or a spectacle showcasing machines at the cutting edge of science and technology. The market for both is totally different. Lots of reasons I'm sure why some of the above wouldn't be taken on board but there are lots of reasons why something drastic needs to be done. Sport in the main needs to have excitement; a quality sadlly lacking in the current computerised and sanitised version of F1. |
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*Miglia Mille* ffs!
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Give everyone exactly the same car. Job done.
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^^^
F1 would die overnight if it was a spec series. Look at A1 etc Used to watch every race, qual and most practices. Haven't watched any of Monaco and didn't watch any Spain. The survey shows F1 knows why it is boring. Questions like 'are the drivers really boring because they are too restrained by their PR manager?' 'is F1 less of a spectacle now the cars are slow and quiet?', 'does it matter if all the on track overtaking is derived from DRS and silly tyres?' I'm confident any top level driver (wtcc,indycar, nascar,wrc) could finish in the top 2 if they drove the Mercedes and we're given six months on the simulator |
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Mister Badger. I'm going outside now to hide my shame. I may be some time.
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Get the Speedway Grand Prix on
Can't remember the last time it wasn't a thrill-a-minute |
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there you go!!
What a win for Woffinden brilliant stuff - more excitement in one evening than a whole F1 season |
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that was some racing
best racing so far shame some of the tracks have the same problem 'it is difficult to overtake' speedway SOMETIMES has the same problem. but go and watch it live and you will see how brave those guys are As an ex F1 fan - I feel Monaco should be stripped of F1 status but I feel like that about many circuits A PIRATES FAN!!! |
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F1 racing is always much more exciting when it's raining, or about to rain so first up they should get rid of staging it in places like Bahrain and start doing it in places like Manchester.
The most annoying thing though is all the non-racing that goes on. Save your tyres! or conserve your fuel! All these messages that come through from the pits basically telling the drivers not to race. If I want to go and watch cars being told not to go too fast i can go and stand on a motorway bridge. It's a race so why are they being told not to race all the time. Give the drivers more control, more decisions. There should be only 1 way radio communication and that is from the driver to his team. Only communication from the team should be by holding up a board when the driver passes them. Leave it to the driver to make all the decisions out on the racetrack, the team do all their stuff when the car is stationary. Put more skill and decision making back in the hands of the driver. I'd love to see the cars have a gearbox and the drivers have to use the clutch again during the race (rather than just from moving from a standstill), although i'd imagine most would see this as too much of a backward step. |
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Zazu Spot on
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U.A. The reason for conserving fuel is that you will not reach the end of the race. Similarly, if you don't respect your tyres, you will lose grip on acceleration, braking and cornering...and you will lose the race. If you call into 'the pits' for a tyre-change, it will cost you twenty seconds in time...and you will lose the race.
Why7 can't any of you understand that the race finishes at the winning line. Would you expect a 5,000 metre runner to run flat out at 100 metre speed? NO...because he would lose. He would run out of fuel and he would lose! Would you expect a Gold Cup horse to set off at a sprinter's pace? No...because he would lose. You can't win a race in the first furlong, but you can certainly lose it! Today's Grand Prix is, of course, run at Monaco which is extremely difficult regarding overtaking. But, if you want to set off at the front, you simply have to go fastest over a very short distance of a complete lap and Voila, you will have 'pole' position. It is a level playing field. |
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Apparently David coulthard wrote a rather interesting article about all this saying, 'drivers are hardly ever driving on the limit anymore'!!!
hmmm!! Racing?? It doesn't seem like they are racing anymore - work that one out?? Ban radios for starters. Hamilton has just been told rear tyres are ok so change balance to help the fronts - unbelievable!!! I have just been talking to a friend about the Mansell style of racing also ronnie peterson etc but F1 needs a d^rn good sort out. |
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the tyre situation is ridiculous and they should also get rid of wings.
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I'm surprised that they still have radios...there's not much on these days on a Sunday afternoon.
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ridiculous race today
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Vettel was doing his very best not to p1ss himself laughing
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sport itself is laughing stock, i still tune in but my god its desperate at times
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what about ... depending on your position in the world championships determines the amount of fuel you get. it will still be an incentive to be in the lead and win but the smaller teams will get more fuel and be able to drive more aggressively .. requires no cost changes to the car at all.
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Naydam, if you weren't so concerned about being patronizing you might be able to work out the point I am making. Yes I do know it's a race, yes i do know it's first across the finish line, yes I do know that if you don't conserve your fuel when it runs out the engine thingy wont work properly. My mum explained all of this after i finished my long division homework.
My point is that these types of decision should be placed in the hands of the driver. You don't see athletes with various sensors on their body which gives feedback to their coach on a laptop who then starts to tell the athlete slow down or react accordingly. The athlete, jockey, whoever has to figure all of this out by himself during the race. Any tactics discussed are done before the race. When the car is moving, it should be the driver in charge and making the important decisions. It needs to be more subjective in my opinion. This is the main reason I find it boring. Whether you think I am right or wrong I still find it boring and so now i don't watch it. Ignore the masses at your peril. |
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Once again all the 'excitement' was in the pits. Why, if the sport is all about speed and danger do they have a safety car? Can't they be trusted to swerve round a bit of debris?
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there was a 'virtual safety car', for a bit
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Vestappen was hilarious, "best exciting new driver" nipping in to steal places after cars in front were told to move over
Exciting like cars exiting lidl car park |
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Yes they love that word "exciting" when promoting F1. Interesting perhaps in a nerdy sort of way but there's never a glimmer of excitement watching the same cars following each other round and round and round and round and..................................................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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After the pits fook up / technical miscalculation with Hamilton he came out behind Vettel, commenter goes "this is what we have been waiting for Hamilton and Vettel wheel to wheel" Like the technical miscalculation by the pit wall geek was somehow a blessing to the race and the sad viewers watching.
![]() 1 lap later Hamilton on radio "impossible to overtake" Monaco the jewel in the crown of F1 |
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Only F1 could have a "race" on a circuit where you cant overtake, but they do have a taz round the day before to decide what the result will be and then get the gullible to pay megabucks to watch a "race" where they already know who will win.
A bit like having the 100m Olympic final run in one lane and the runners lining up in the order in which they finished in the heats. |