Does Pacman have a chance on Saturday?

I want.  Sorry for the typo.

No one has got close to Mayweather. If anybody can then Manny can but I can't see it.

If this fight took place in 2009 it would have been monumental.

Sadly both of them have slowed down a lot.

love to see Pac beat him but I also can't see it

More than ever before this one is purely about the money. Both fighters know they are at the end of their careers so no need to put titles & reputation on the line like they would have had to a few years ago. Still just about in time to be a credible match up though but both know it's all about maximising the payday.

As such, I expect an unconvincingly suspicious draw with a rematch planned for the end of the year. Probably in Qatar or Dubai. A lay of Mayweather might be the value bet.

Only Father Time can beat Mayweather

I think it'll go the distance with Mayweather being ultra defensive

Mayweather all the way !!

Nope , will lose on a dullsville points score , after being outboxed for 12 rounds.

Had a 50/50 chance 4 years back ......perhaps that is why the fight is happening know imo.

Can you trust the result? Surely the draw is the best bet?

I'm not much of a boxing fan, but I have watched a few of the fights that have been shown on Sky Sports this week. I suppose from what I've read that most people will want Manny to win? He definitely seems the better man of the two.

What time does the fight kick off?

4am British time.

I'm guessing at around 4am here

That's very late/early which ever way you look at it.

I think I might set my alarm to watch it, I'd rather it be on at that time instead of 1am. I wouldn't fancy watching a repeat later on in the day.

I take it this fight is actually just a moneymaking exercise for two men who are past their best?

Be closer to 5am

That is certainly true to a large extent, Alun, but Mayweather's ego is so vast that a loss would be devastating to him despite the purse.

according to danny dyer on talksport its gonna be a PROPER TEAR UP

thats good enough for me

agree needs something for a rematch, draw looks promising

according to danny dyer on talksport its gonna be a PROPER TEAR UP

thats good enough for me


he's sharp that fella

They are by some way still the best around their weight class Alun. It isn't a case of two bald men fighting over a comb. Their ages actually add another layer to the fight. Pacman is younger but has been in far more wars but on the other hand he relies on his skill and power offensively which isn't as likely to show rapid diminution. Mayweather is all about silkiness, speed, reflexes and great defence. He comes out with some shinola but for my money he's the best since a peak Roy Jones and in many ways he reminds me of Jones and that's informative. One minute Jones was going up to heavyweight because he wanted to cement his legacy and giving Ruiz a lesson but in the very next fight he came back down and it was no longer there against Tarver. The rest is history with him then being knocked out and gradually fading from view. My point is that those kinds of fighters can go very quickly. At 38 is it that time for Mayweather? Who knows but again it's an interesting sub plot especially given the quality of his opponent.

I've made the point on the boxing forum but I do think it's very relevant. Will the referee dictate how the fight goes? Manny has a much shorter reach and therefore needs to do his best work on the way in or on the inside. We saw with the Hatton fight that whenever Hatton got inside the ref jumped in and split them up. If the referee refuses to let Manny fight where does he go? He can't beat Mayweather from the outside but who knows how the fight will go if he can do his thing on the inside and make Mayweather fight hard for 12 rounds?

Whatever happens for boxings sake I hope it turns out to be a barnburner.

Prediction? Mayweather points.

I don't usually clarify but boxing is too important. With reference to Hatton I was talking about the Mayweather fight and with reference to Jones the KO I was referring to came in their second fight.

Cheers PM/EO

I lost touch with boxing a while back, after there seemed to be roughly 6 different World Champions for each division. I liked Lennox Lewis but haven't paid much attention to the sport since he retired.

Incidentally, if you'd all like to read a sportsman's memoirs that aren't a pile of dull dross, I suggest you try Mike Tyson's "Undisputed Truth". Jaw-dropping (and mostly appalling) revelations on every page. A horrendous tale.

mr eds autobiography was full,of trouser dropping

I was going to get it at the airport last time I was going out but it was just in hardback at that time. I'll definitely get around to reading it.

LOL Bito, you clearly managed to get one of the few copies that wasn't pulped for the staggering and filthy revelations that were routinely revealed in every paragraph. Right?


EO - I borrowed mine from a mere Public Library but it's definitely worth a read.

Mayweather inside distance 7/1

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alun2005   
30 Apr 15 21:11 
I take it this fight is actually just a moneymaking exercise for two men who are past their best?

I heard on telly that Manny gives most of his his money away to the poor and charities.

He does, S&G.
If it was a fight of 'good v bad' Manny would win hands down, but, alas, life doesn't always work like that.

I too (like the OP) hope Manny wins, but EO has spelt it out @22:34 (like he usually does with his excellent boxing posts) just as it probably will pan out.

However, I already said to myself a few days ago 'a little dabble on the draw' may not be too shoddy a bet - boxing being boxing and the money-men being the money-men and all that.

I think Floyd has been hiding from Manny all these years.I think one of his trainers attested to this.
I don't think he will be able to cope with Manny's relentless blitzkrieg and will fall inside the distance.
I think Floyd relented on the fight when they offered him 2/3 of the purse and he had nowhere to hide.
He could still get Manny with a Sledgehammer punch but I doubt it.

Manny chinned Hatton in 2. Hatton gave Floyd a few problems so it's Manny for me. If only things were that simple.

I hope Manny wins, seems a really decent chap.

love to see it Maywether on point simo but love to the crass knob shut up

Apr 30, 2015 -- 2:44PM, Mr Eboue wrote:

No one has got close to Mayweather. If anybody can then Manny can but I can't see it.If this fight took place in 2009 it would have been monumental.Sadly both of them have slowed down a lot.

Mayweather has not recorded 120-108 on the judges cards much recently

Does Manny P currently hold ANY World Titles?

WBO Welterweight I think young alun.

Thx

I used to do a bit of boxing and like to take an interest.

Anyone know the realistic chances of getting a nicked feed of this bout off the internet?

will be free feeds everywhere

Mayweather is beatable. Pacquiao just needs to do what de la hoya did but with higher quality and more volume.

Grow six inches and get a foot longer reach?

Well, whether there will he hooky streams to watch or not, the BBC have announced they're broadcasting the fight live on Radio 5 from 3.30am.

That'll do for me, instead of chasing my tail trying to watch it on buffer!

Long time since I listened to a fight on the radio TT. I think the last one was when Herbie Hide was knocking Riddick Bowe all around the ring on his way to a down-six-times-until-KO'd-in-the-sixth effort!

1971 - the last fight I heard on the radio
Jerry Quarry v Jack Bodell 
Went to the kitchen for an ashtray at the opening bell.
When I got back it was all over.

does Eamon Andrews still do them

Richest fight in boxing history (about 04:00 BST)

WBA, WBC and WBO welterweight titles on line
Commentary on BBC Radio 5 live from 03:30 BST

The MGM Grand was pretty much sold out before tickets even went on sale. And the 500 that were available to the public went in 30 seconds.

But tickets on the second-sale market have been re-sold for thousands of pounds.

Earlier in the week, a front-row, ringside seat was being offered for an eye watering $350,005.25 (£231,500) on StubHub,  although they had dropped to $117,005.25 (£77,277) by Saturday.

Out of your price range? How about one of MGM's other Vegas venues?

Around 150,000 tickets, at $150 a go, were available to watch the fight on closed-circuit screens elsewhere in Sin City. One of those on the re-sale market will set you back about at least $250, with some getting up to $1,600.

Form am orderly queue gents. No pushing. 

no doubt Paris Hilton had a splendid time

Nope , will lose on a dullsville points score , after being outboxed for 12 rounds.

even more dull than I expected.

really shocking stuff, put the sport back years, no wonder all the young ones follow UFC

Fair point Brendan. We live in metrosexual times and so grown men rubbing their crotches in each others faces as B-Hop so memorably put it whilst having no great interest for some of us old timers may well appeal to youngsters. I put some of boxings problems down to the marketing, hype and degeneracy of the Tyson era. There's only so much WWF style nonsense you can foist on people before it descends into farce. It's a sweet science epitomised by the ongoing struggle between brain and brawn and a younger generation brought up on hyperbole and theatrics may well lean towards the, "I want to eat your babies" lunacy of Tyson rather than the, "you can eat my left jab, right cross and uppercuts" of Lewis. Tyson was taught a painful lesson and found humility that night. The UFC/MMA generation clearly didn't learn.

Was a Exhibition and then a masterclass, timing and super hype for the moneymen of PPV and mayweather/paxo. I fear we will see another hype fight after mayweather contractual fight in september. Rumours already started on a PPV tv auction for mayweather in new year...bigger in dollars than last night.

paco requiring painkiller injections for right shoulder injury 5 days before the fight.... then  interviewed after the fight....  A bit comedy from manny..." I thought I won"

With an eye on another mega fight I don't think, "he whipped me and there was nothing I could do" would be the biggest seller. People may be gullible but surely not that gullible?