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I wany Manny to win, and think he would have had a good chance ten years ago, but it seems a forlorn hope to me this time around.  Here's hoping he proves me wrong.

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By:
Pokermonster
When: 30 Apr 15 20:42
I want.  Sorry for the typo.
By:
Mr Eboue
When: 30 Apr 15 20:44
No one has got close to Mayweather. If anybody can then Manny can but I can't see it.

If this fight took place in 2009 it would have been monumental.

Sadly both of them have slowed down a lot.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 30 Apr 15 20:49
love to see Pac beat him but I also can't see it
By:
Danno
When: 30 Apr 15 20:50
More than ever before this one is purely about the money. Both fighters know they are at the end of their careers so no need to put titles & reputation on the line like they would have had to a few years ago. Still just about in time to be a credible match up though but both know it's all about maximising the payday.

As such, I expect an unconvincingly suspicious draw with a rematch planned for the end of the year. Probably in Qatar or Dubai. A lay of Mayweather might be the value bet.
By:
GoBallistic
When: 30 Apr 15 20:53
Only Father Time can beat Mayweather
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 30 Apr 15 20:55
I think it'll go the distance with Mayweather being ultra defensive
By:
acey deucy
When: 30 Apr 15 20:56
Mayweather all the way !!
By:
sixtwosix
When: 30 Apr 15 20:58
Nope , will lose on a dullsville points score , after being outboxed for 12 rounds.

Had a 50/50 chance 4 years back ......perhaps that is why the fight is happening know imo.
By:
Barry Conway
When: 30 Apr 15 21:00
Can you trust the result? Surely the draw is the best bet?
By:
s.kenbo
When: 30 Apr 15 21:00
I'm not much of a boxing fan, but I have watched a few of the fights that have been shown on Sky Sports this week. I suppose from what I've read that most people will want Manny to win? He definitely seems the better man of the two.

What time does the fight kick off?
By:
Pokermonster
When: 30 Apr 15 21:01
4am British time.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 30 Apr 15 21:02
I'm guessing at around 4am here
By:
s.kenbo
When: 30 Apr 15 21:08
That's very late/early which ever way you look at it.

I think I might set my alarm to watch it, I'd rather it be on at that time instead of 1am. I wouldn't fancy watching a repeat later on in the day.
By:
alun2005
When: 30 Apr 15 21:11
I take it this fight is actually just a moneymaking exercise for two men who are past their best?
By:
Mr Eboue
When: 30 Apr 15 21:17
Be closer to 5am
By:
Pokermonster
When: 30 Apr 15 21:18
That is certainly true to a large extent, Alun, but Mayweather's ego is so vast that a loss would be devastating to him despite the purse.
By:
a bitofinterest
When: 30 Apr 15 22:20
according to danny dyer on talksport its gonna be a PROPER TEAR UP

thats good enough for me
By:
brendanuk1
When: 30 Apr 15 22:27
agree needs something for a rematch, draw looks promising
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 30 Apr 15 22:33
according to danny dyer on talksport its gonna be a PROPER TEAR UP

thats good enough for me



Laugh he's sharp that fella
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 30 Apr 15 22:34
They are by some way still the best around their weight class Alun. It isn't a case of two bald men fighting over a comb. Their ages actually add another layer to the fight. Pacman is younger but has been in far more wars but on the other hand he relies on his skill and power offensively which isn't as likely to show rapid diminution. Mayweather is all about silkiness, speed, reflexes and great defence. He comes out with some shinola but for my money he's the best since a peak Roy Jones and in many ways he reminds me of Jones and that's informative. One minute Jones was going up to heavyweight because he wanted to cement his legacy and giving Ruiz a lesson but in the very next fight he came back down and it was no longer there against Tarver. The rest is history with him then being knocked out and gradually fading from view. My point is that those kinds of fighters can go very quickly. At 38 is it that time for Mayweather? Who knows but again it's an interesting sub plot especially given the quality of his opponent.

I've made the point on the boxing forum but I do think it's very relevant. Will the referee dictate how the fight goes? Manny has a much shorter reach and therefore needs to do his best work on the way in or on the inside. We saw with the Hatton fight that whenever Hatton got inside the ref jumped in and split them up. If the referee refuses to let Manny fight where does he go? He can't beat Mayweather from the outside but who knows how the fight will go if he can do his thing on the inside and make Mayweather fight hard for 12 rounds?

Whatever happens for boxings sake I hope it turns out to be a barnburner.

Prediction? Mayweather points.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 30 Apr 15 22:36
I don't usually clarify but boxing is too important. Laugh With reference to Hatton I was talking about the Mayweather fight and with reference to Jones the KO I was referring to came in their second fight.
By:
alun2005
When: 30 Apr 15 23:03
Cheers PM/EO

I lost touch with boxing a while back, after there seemed to be roughly 6 different World Champions for each division. I liked Lennox Lewis but haven't paid much attention to the sport since he retired.

Incidentally, if you'd all like to read a sportsman's memoirs that aren't a pile of dull dross, I suggest you try Mike Tyson's "Undisputed Truth". Jaw-dropping (and mostly appalling) revelations on every page. A horrendous tale.
By:
a bitofinterest
When: 30 Apr 15 23:07
mr eds autobiography was full,of trouser dropping Blush
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 30 Apr 15 23:07
I was going to get it at the airport last time I was going out but it was just in hardback at that time. I'll definitely get around to reading it.
By:
alun2005
When: 30 Apr 15 23:10
LOL Bito, you clearly managed to get one of the few copies that wasn't pulped for the staggering and filthy revelations that were routinely revealed in every paragraph. Right?


EO - I borrowed mine from a mere Public Library but it's definitely worth a read.
By:
giggitygiggity
When: 30 Apr 15 23:17
Mayweather inside distance 7/1Happy
By:
giggitygiggity
When: 01 May 15 23:15
Weigh in live right now..16,000 people!
By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 01 May 15 23:26
alun2005   
30 Apr 15 21:11 
I take it this fight is actually just a moneymaking exercise for two men who are past their best?


I heard on telly that Manny gives most of his his money away to the poor and charities.
By:
Tommy Toes
When: 01 May 15 23:35
He does, S&G.
If it was a fight of 'good v bad' Manny would win hands down, but, alas, life doesn't always work like that.

I too (like the OP) hope Manny wins, but EO has spelt it out @22:34 (like he usually does with his excellent boxing posts) just as it probably will pan out.

However, I already said to myself a few days ago 'a little dabble on the draw' may not be too shoddy a bet - boxing being boxing and the money-men being the money-men and all that.
By:
TambourineMan.
When: 01 May 15 23:54
I think Floyd has been hiding from Manny all these years.I think one of his trainers attested to this.
I don't think he will be able to cope with Manny's relentless blitzkrieg and will fall inside the distance.
I think Floyd relented on the fight when they offered him 2/3 of the purse and he had nowhere to hide.
He could still get Manny with a Sledgehammer punch but I doubt it.
By:
kenny mann
When: 01 May 15 23:56
Manny chinned Hatton in 2. Hatton gave Floyd a few problems so it's Manny for me. If only things were that simple.

I hope Manny wins, seems a really decent chap.
By:
Howdi
When: 02 May 15 00:00
love to see it Maywether on point simo but love to the crass knob shut up
By:
Crisp77
When: 02 May 15 07:35

Apr 30, 2015 -- 8:44PM, Mr Eboue wrote:


No one has got close to Mayweather. If anybody can then Manny can but I can't see it.If this fight took place in 2009 it would have been monumental.Sadly both of them have slowed down a lot.


Mayweather has not recorded 120-108 on the judges cards much recently

By:
alun2005
When: 02 May 15 16:33
Does Manny P currently hold ANY World Titles?
By:
kenny mann
When: 02 May 15 16:37
WBO Welterweight I think young alun.
By:
alun2005
When: 02 May 15 16:37
Thx
By:
kenny mann
When: 02 May 15 16:40
I used to do a bit of boxing and like to take an interest.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 02 May 15 17:57
Anyone know the realistic chances of getting a nicked feed of this bout off the internet?
By:
Zazu
When: 02 May 15 18:07
will be free feeds everywhere

Mayweather is beatable. Pacquiao just needs to do what de la hoya did but with higher quality and more volume.
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